i worked with trade womens inc. and other organizations and that's one of the main focuses that i worked with collaboratively as far as advocating for women and also mentoring and assisting women and supporting them through processes of discrimination in the employment sector giving them choices because having -- not having a choice in the matter sometimes leaves you to only pursuit a lawsuit which i don't think most people who are discriminated against look for lawsuits. they just want to work and because i have had to make that choice personally over and over again i think i would be a great person to help create a program or help create this body. i mean to help to create strategies so the gray areas that women encounter where they're not getting the actual support, and they can't go to their union. they can't go to the employer and maybe legal representation is not what they want. i think i can bring to the table a lot of information and structure to this body or a lot of alternatives that we can support and incr

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