but part of the charm with bill clinton was that he is really basically a wonk.macare there is a bit of a victory lap going on right now. there are any number of places to stumble along the way between now and the election and thereafter. so, it's going to be interesting to see what happens from this point on. but the republicans clearly can only have sour grapes when they talk about what was an accomplishment, that was getting the 7 million sign-ups. >> we will keep watching. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> stick around for "first buzz." we're talking about the lawnmower of every guy's dreams. matt and al are getting into the sharknato craze. that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪ ♪ you have to let me know [ female announcer ] when sweet and salty come together, the taste is irresistible. sweet and salty nut bars by nature valley. nature at its most delicious. sweet and salty nut bars by natu♪e valley. m

. >> apart from the policy wonk discussion, bill snyder, is there power of anecdote? this has been a very unpopular law in a lot of circles. but does that start to get chipped away at now that we've sort of ended the battle? you've got the 8 million enrollments, and people are where they are. is this a time where people didn't have health insurance before might start to soften themselves even in the face of the mandate which has been so unpopular. >> the anecdote is very important. cee cee was a journalist. i'm a journalist. we'll say, put a face on this story. get the human interest. the government has done a good job of telling the story of people who lost their health insurance or those who have to pay more for their insurance, they're getting more for their insurance but they don't say that. the democrats have to come out with those who say for years i didn't have coverage. i was depressed because i had a condition, i didn't have insurance policy, but now i have it and now i feel better. those people have to be pro rated out, featured, and democrats have not done

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i did this with some policy wonks where am i wrong? >> because you are conflating to a different concepts you have noted the first issue is how many have signed up for health care. there is with the exchanges are a couple million 34 million on medicaid. neil: you just inflated right there. >> no the question is how many signed up for health insurance because of the health care law that is more than 10 million. neil: before now i will by that because you dismiss prior when i talk about those that lost coverage i keep thematically by not doing the extrapolations that they're all part of the same piece. go-ahead. >> ultimately here is the point we can agree so how many people paid to insurance coverage? one is wrong but we have a hard data survey cannot from the urban institute 5.4 billion americans had the assurance of the first quarter 2013 bin at the end. neil: that study did not account for those who had lost insurance. no. those who signed up directly under this new law for insurance it didn't account for where they came from. >> if

>> he is a policy wonk he has plenty of time to run for president.pace of paul ryan running ways and means chairmanship you cannot render for president at the same time but then senator hatch heading the finance committee then president obama has to make a decision will he strike deals or not get anything done the last two years? it is fascinating. even if democrats hold the senate they had a good working with vision of paul ryan so maybe washington could work again. neil: are what it is setting up during 2016 if he does not run people across the aisle will get something done with ever they say about his tenure plan it is the olive branch. >> the base trust him and i think after the election he will try to move republicans to raise immigration reform because he has that clout on the right i think they can do well in november. >> always good to have you. >> this particular phone call did not work out well. >> guess who's did? we have putin. ♪ [ cellphones beeping ] ♪ [ cellphone rings ] hello? [ male announcer ] over 12,000 financial advisors. good, g

but they're kind of known as the wonks and the nerdy people in their families.y're very policy oriented. if they ended up running against each other you might see a very issues oriented race in 2016. can you imagine that? >> nothing wrong with that. i'd like that. all right, thanks very much. good issues oriented race, as opposed to name calling. >> let's not go out on a limb on that, right? >>> control slipping away right now, very different story we're following, in eastern ukraine. a crisis as pro-russian milita t militants take over more buildings. >>> and the state department has released a brand-new report on the threat from al qaeda. a very disturbing look on the group's affiliated organizations. information you need to know. ? yea. try alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heart burn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. alka-seltzer fruit chews. enjoy the relief! humans. even when we cross our "ts" and dot our "i's", we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness with o

. >> governor, we can wonk out all day, but the 30-second ad in your plan would be raises -- it raiseses on individuals on their health plans, radically changes medicare, and makes it harder to get coverage if you're lower income. i can tell you what the 30-second attack ad on your plan would be true. >> and none of that -- >> politically, you're opening yourself up to some tough conversation. >> two things, none of that's true. it does not raise taxes. it reduces health care preem ups. it gives -- >> you're shifting the tax burden to the individual. you're giving them a deduction, but you are shifting the tax burden to the individual. >> no, chuck, that's not true. the deduction would actually allow them to actually put more dollars in their pockets. it's not -- this is absolutely not a tax increase. we're very, very careful about this. this repeals the obamacare taxes and spending. it does not increase federal government revenues compared to where we were before obamacare. so it does not -- let's be very clear, this is not a tax increase. it does give a generous deduction, more choic

because while congressman ryan might look like a harmless budget wonk, his dangerous ideas are rightut of the right wing talkers playbook. >> the wealthy, the rich, the achieved ought to be the role models for everybody. >> a lot of people are lazy, and a lot of people are becoming lazier. >> the more aid you give, the more excuse they can to ratchet up the tuition. >> we need to have a president who will sign a measure defunding, repealing, getting rid of and replacing obamacare. >> when you're hungry, you're going to figure out a way to eat. >> why are we giving "sesame street" money. why won't we give them a nickel? >> all of those radical beliefs, they're in the ryan budget. he is just like limbaugh. he thinks our rich role models deserve tax breaks. apparently, he also thinks the poor will eat if they're really hungry, because he guts food stamps. and he might as well be a fox news contributor, because he also has some issues with "sesame street." let's face it. these ideas are dangerous, even if all they do is push the conversation farther and farther to the right. because as t

to replace her president obama intends to nominate a veteran policy wonk and the current head of the office of budget. still, to judge the task facing miss burwell including health care's proteshl role in the november elections, we do need to evaluate the legacy of the woman who may go down in history as the most famous or infamous health and human services secretary in history. for that task we turn to karen finney, the former dnc communications director and host of msnbc's "disrupt with karen finney" antony gunn a health reform expert who worked under kathleen sebelius and igor who is managing editor at think progress. i'm going reverse. rather than ladies first, i want to start with you igor. karen sshgs like, what? i'm going to start with igor. tell me your opinion on whether kathleen sebelius was essentially forced out or whether she left essentially because she felt she's throwing down the microphone, she won? >> i think she announced 7.5 million people in the exchanges now enrolled. about three more million in medicaid. she's leaving on a high note. you know, in the day to day

joining us now at the table is our favorite tattooed politics wonk, john stanton, washington bureau chief at buzz feed. great to have you with us at the table. under any other circumstance, it seems like this trip would have a lot more attention but because of the crisis in ukraine and because there's just this general fatigue we all have with foreign policy this trip was not getting the attention and the excitement that it probably deseshz. you have folks in asia keep saying we get screwed, trips are cancel canceled. something seems to overshadow us. >> i think you're right although this trip i think is really aimed at the asian nations. i think for this administration they have not focused that much on asia and japan has been feeling very isolated but that's partially because their economy has been in decline and they've lost their position globally. our allies don't like we've paid attention to china. here domestically this is not aimed at us. this is vep for the governments and the populations in these countries where we have very longstanding ties and a lot of bruised feelings over t

we like to wonk out. but young people today grew up well after the 1960's. they put last night's date on instagram or snap chat. that is a large part of what is going on in america that we as conservatives have still not moved past the battles of the 1960's. are we comfortable with the fact that the vast majority of americans engage in premarital sex? i don't say that to be ironic. i think that is something conservatives really have wrestled with and don't have a good solution to. i think we will end up a pro-life party that will accept liberal hegemony on other social issues. >> i think a marriage is an marriage is an issue where republicans will lose, but if you look at marriage as a whole, it is in disaster as shape -- disastrous shape, and that will hurt the economy. on a personal level, marriage makes people happier and healthier. it's actually good for people. if you have serial parenting where people have multiple children by different parents, the father tends to invest in the mother with whom he gets along the best, that is not a stable model for th

you are one of the true policy wonks of the senate and i mean that in the most complimentary form. you have billing -- been willing to work with both sides and your work on tax reform it's been very interesting to me. i'm looking forward to working with you. >> thank you. >> you want to take a moment to express appreciation to you so that you know that we will appreciate working with you. we are going to have to work together and we are going to have to work together on preparing and executing this markup but we have worked together in preparing for it and yes there are things i wish were different but that's the way it is right now. standard legislation is always hard to move. it comes with a lot of moving parts and competing interests. throughout this process we have both worn to the hats. you have worn 1/2 representing the interests of the 13 democratic numbers of the committee and also donned the head of the senior senator from oregon. likewise i have worn one hat as i have represented the concerns of all the republicans on the committee and another the senator from utah. they

wonk out. but young people today grew up well after the 1960's. they put last night's date on instagram or snap chat. ist is a large part of what going on in america that we as conservatives have still not moved past the battles of the 1960's. are we comfortable with the fact that the vast majority of americans engage in premarital sex? i don't say that to be ironic. i think that is something conservatives really have wrestled with and don't have a good solution to. i think we will end up a pro-life party that will accept liberal hegemony on other social issues. a marriage is an issue where republicans will lose, but if you look at marriage as a whole, it is in -- disastrousape shape, and that will hurt the economy. marriageonal level, makes people happier and healthier. it's actually good for people. if you have serial parenting where people have multiple children by different parents, the father tends to invest in the mother with whom he gets along the best, that is not a stable model for the 21st century. i actually think there is a way in whic

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-wonk republicans are seeing this as an opportunity to attack it. caller: good morning. --on't think it is and it opportunity to attack it. it is an opportunity to expose the truth of it. the president has lied to get the law in place. lied to congress. they replace her with somebody else. they have 7.5 million sign-ups. they don't know who they are or they come from. this is a scam to get the law and place deep. the -- eventually, the american public is going to pay every dime. differentre are issues with this law. things have been delayed. things a been put off. -- they did the employer mandate delay. there are opportunities to investigate the program as to what has happened with implementation and where it is going. there are fair concerns. the administration has done things on its own. people in health care don't appreciate that. in the wall street journal, the health-care war endures. attention will turn back to the original question of if the insurance offerings will do the good work as promised. what are those offerings? we have mandated benefits. these are broad

random wonk. seen over and over again that the big buyer in the market is private equity and a lot of times they want to convert these into rentals. how does that secular change impact your numbers? >> well, i think that it's a very important -- these people are not just speculators, they're fulfilling a very important function. namely, there seems to be a high demand for rentals now. so it's perfectly natural for these people to go into the business of converting. but then, the way i think of it, this may be a new equilibrium with more people wanting to rent. that equilibrium doesn't bode really well for existing home prices. because existing single-family homes are not ideally suited to be functioning as rentals. and so it seems to me that might bode for an equilibrium price. >> i want you to put on your nobel laureate price and talk about the markets which we've been talking. revenue growth out, high multiple stocks suddenly out, everybody focused on the lower, and i'm using quotations, multipl

two trillion dollars of how they balance the budget so this is you know calling paul ryan a policy wonkreally you know he's a he certainly can spin a good story but he's not someone who's putting out a credible budget and then to have all those real cuts in there you know we see that is the road if they. keep the house and get the presidency this is their roadmap this is what the people should realize is what the republicans would do and it's a really serious scary document in that sense. dwight eisenhower campaigned for reelection in fifty six on the fact that he had increased social security he had increased unionization in the united states the average wage was up you know the economy was growing and there were more jobs and he you know to sign the national highway bill richard nixon wouldn't recognize this i mean richard nixon campaigned in seventy two on the fact that he had increased social security by twenty percent to twenty percent that reagan rolled back in eighty two you know decades later but the you know. this modern republican party it's basically just been reagan and geor

the truth like it is i think it's really it's a media but the guy they love that he's this budget wonk who you know sits there and pours over so he's the new john mccain he's the guy that the media is a lot i think i think that i think that honestly contributes a lot to it for good so what you think about it almost it was well with or without the budget i mean the and there's a debate about what to what extent these budgets are going to contribute to wealth inequality but according to a new research by u.c. berkeley economist emanuel site as an gabriel zuckerman the share of wealth controlled by the richest one tenth of one percent has skyrocketed to a decade's long over the past few years in fact the richest one tenth of one percent is now as rich as they were in the late twenty s right before the stock market crash. this to me is actually spooky because you know if you. at the history united states when you see wealth inequality like this there was another one the other big peak which is not in our graph was in one thousand nine hundred six and eighty ninety six there could be a grea