as a kind of wonk, the rare wonk, the person who really genuinely believed in what he was doing. i wonder what his reputation was like in wisconsin and what is he going back to? >> that's a really good point, chris. paul ryan had two images. one was in washington where he was celebrated as a boy genius and back in wisconsin he would run ads on television saying things like he opposed trade agreements that exported jobs. in his district of janesville where the gm plant closed they lost 50% of manufacturing jobs so this was very important to his constituents but those tv ads had nothing to do with the votes that he supported which supported every single trade deal. he has two images. he's seen as a friendly guy. very easy to talk to. i have watched him give these powerpoint presentations where he flashes up bar graphs and people try to follow it. he quickly explains how trickle down economic is going to save us and voucher rising medicare is not going to be a problem. his constituents say, wow, this guy is good at math. i can't follow this presentation. a few grandmas come out and

, wonk, wonk, and nobody's going to be paying attention to that at all. so i don't think he has a message and narrative that resonates in a democratic primary. now, he can take his centrist act on the road and maybe run as a third-party candidate or maybe try to run against donald trump in a republican primary, but that's not going to sell for the dems. >> meanwhile, gallup releasing its poll of the most admired men and women in the country. former president barack obama and former first lady michelle obama take the top spots. it marks the 11th year in a row that barack obama's been number one on that list. it's also the first year for michelle obama. she unseats hillary clinton, who held that spot for the past 16 years. president trump coming in second for the fourth year in a row. philip, we're talking 2020 here. the role of barack obama in the 2020 democratic primaries, how do you see it? >> yeah, it's a fascinating question. he's sort of the de facto leader of the party at this point in time for a variety of reasons. we'll see if that changes once nan

kennedy: paul ryan did the exact same thing and i think it's laughable when he calls himself a policy wonknd someone who has an astute eye for the type of limited government he claimed to want to be in charge of when in fact the deficit was larger and we owed a lot more money when he left than when he came into congress. howie: what about this notion trump reversed course and took us to the shutdown because rush and coulter told him what to do. kennedy: wouldn't that be great? i want to be the puppet master. howie: does the president take it as a warning sign when people on the right who ordinarily support him speak out whether it's the pull out from syria or not funding the wall? is it because he respond to the pundits or the pundits may be in touch with the essence of his base? kennedy: i think it's the latter, you have people who base so much of their opinion and world view, people like ann coulter and rush limbaugh, they learned not to trust mainstream media sources. and i don't think the mainstream media lies, and i don't think journalism is dead. but there are clues as to how they wa

business he's not deeply engaged in public policy he's not what american slang is called a public policy wonk someone who's deeply engaged in the details of public policy and how the government works he's known to insist on memoranda and briefings that are no more than one page long he reads them then he throws them away he doesn't really have a lot of depth on public policy issues but he has a strong sense of his own priorities what he wants to accomplish and that he is strongly committed to bill schneider we thank you for speaking to us from los angeles pleasure now u.s. border protection has ordered medical checks for every child in custody after a second child died while in its care eight year old philip gomez alone zoë died on christmas day hours after being discharged from hospital he was diagnosed with a cold and fever for the pan his father had been in u.s. border control custody since entering the country a week earlier and the seven year old girl died earlier this month also after being detained. the un is warning at least two million the more venezuelans are likely to flee their co

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bush was a policy wonk, former head neck of the republican national committee. when i was -- we would stop at picnics, we would go to dinners. he would know people who would be active in local g.o.p. county politics. not only would he know the county officials, he'd know the city officials. he had no friends of friends and have written them notes. everybody would have time with the vice president of the united states. again, so approachable to extend the hand, again to military people. i think he saw himself always first and foremost as someone who had served our country and put himself on the line. delaying his time, completing yale to sign up for the military committed a volunteer, to go in and fight the war. the youngest flyer, youngest aviator in the military at the time, someone who put himself out and almost lost his life for a country. the value of expertise, the value of experience, the closest to individuals, taking time with people. again, as a dad, i would say to my children and all american children, this is as the example to what it means to be a pu

mick mulvaney is a policy wonk. he likes to be the budget director.and the chief of staff job, as we have seen from the turmoil and drama and chaos around not just the first and second chiefs of staff, but trying to find somebody to fill it in, is just a thankless, thankless job, despite president trump saying he has all of these people who want it. it's just not the case. >> it is a job for someone, gloria, who can make the trains run on time. then the request he is, only until they're discarded. >> nobody can make the trains run on time at this white house because of president trump and he drives the train off the track half the time. not to overuse that metaphor. but he does. secondly, mulvaney runs the department. he's a conservative. as dana was saying. awash in red ink. the budget deficit has ballooned. i think they're hoping they can talk him into doing this, and maybe they can. and maybe they can't. and also, it's been a very bad week for the president, a really, really bad week. and they're changing the subject right now, also, as jim was say

we're also to go into the policy wonk weeds here which i know you love. >> i'm always into that. go ahead. >> apparently she's willing to offer six appropriation bills, and then a year-long cr, continuing resolution, that's a temporary government funding measure for homeland security funding. if the president doesn't want that, then she would agree to offer a year-long cr for all seven bills but they won't budge on this border wall money. my read on this is that donald trump isn't going to agree to any of this because it doesn't give him the money that he seeks, so this is the state of play. you have chuck schumer and nancy pelosi walking into this meeting feeling like they have all the leverage and they're not going to budge, in part because the base doesn't want to give donald trump a win on this border walsh, and you have donald trump needsi needing to emerge from this meeting with something he can tell his core supporters. this issue forms the core appeal among his supporters. we'll see how it plays out in about a half hour's time. >> we should also point out nancy pelosi has

he was quite a character aside from being a very serious policy wonk and getting things done. he was awarded numerous metals during his navy service, medal of freedom by president obama. as we go back to the theme of family, we think about one of his granddaughters, barbara bush, got married, took that wedding, she had lost her grandmother earlier in the year, and the family really wanted to be together and celebrate that together, and they are rejoicing that they had those moments together to celebrate another happy time before he headed back to texas, where as we talked about earlier, his spokesman said it was important to get back to texas because he wanted some tex-mex. he was a character. >> bret: [laughs] he was a total character. family was so important, shannon, to president bush. i had the privilege of being invited to a golf tournament out in maine, and played alongside with a bunch of different people come up with president w. bush, and at one point, president george h.w. bush arrived, and he was in a golf cart with barbara bush at that time, and you just saw the lo

at least two ways, but perhaps more if he gets the guy he wants come ukraine will pursue the policy wonks and therefore everything will be fine. that's not going to happen. i matter who wins the presidential election and how the party shape up, putin will face a dynamic and ukraine similar to what he faces today, which is a largely united political class, a largely united people against kremlin aggression. everybody understands this is a war of the kremlin against ukraine and putin really is the father of modern ukrainian patriotism and nationalism without a doubt. there is a second way to interpret what putin said that i'm not going to tell you this is how it will play out, but mori involved in u.s. policy i would try and test it. putin is hoping he's going to get a ukraine he wants. he's not. we know there are people in moscow who understand moscow's gritty veteran ukraine has not worked and is not going to work. so it is possible when portions believes, if he does leave because he may as well when they will take a much more serious look about making peace with your train. there are out

without wonking out, without getting into touch with your inner nerd, what does that mean and how much make from that >> they sell customer trades to high frequency traders it is something that pretty much everybody on wall street does, but they have really built themselves on this ethos of cannot necessarily anti-wall street, but sort of different than the banks >> so the trade, not the data. >> exactly so they have said that they are never selling customer data. that is one thing that has the catch. are they going to sell kucustomr data they do sell customer trades though and they have come under criticism for that and another people wonder is that how far they will make money >> and so maybe the online banks, ones who take lidid dec that traditionally use the higher rates, will that pull it back now >> i think that with the stock trading situation, people were forced to keep up. so i don't know if they will take customers from banks necessarily, but they spend a lot on customer acquisition. the percent rate alone i think would be enough to bring new customers in and not just millenn

first of all, as a constitutional wonk, it's the most exciting thing i ever experienced. there are 80 clauses the constitution. i teach this stuff. it is the interactive constitution in the app store or online. and the college board, i'm doing my plugs here but it's so exciting. the college board agreed to work with us to create a two week course on the first amendment that they're going to require of all five million ap students and then the next goal is to bring it not just to ap students but to every citizen in america. but the federalist society and the american constitution society love working with each other and the scholars, remarkably, this is another extraordinary thing, were able to agree on their 1,000 word statements quickly. there are only a couple cases where they had a lot of back and forth. and that's because it turns out that there is much more about the constitution than united states us than divides us. so we have this great role to play. we can fight the polarization. >> we have to move on. a quick comment? >> quick comment. the whole issue about info

neil: you know, you are way too smart to be a stock market wonk.me, i talked to a lot of market traders who say their sense of what's going on in washington is just bedlam and circus-like. they point to democrats and republicans, they point to revolving door of key cabinet officials who leave the administration and a president who willy-nilly changes his positions on everything from the wall and whether there would be a middle ground settlement to keep the government lights on to, you know, how he's going to be dealing with china trade. they're saying he's killing the very market and economic recovery he should take a bow for. do you agree with that, that the president is the one who is to blame for this anxiety? >> this has certainly been a curious and sort of fractured route over the past couple of days, ten days or so, but i think as much as anything, the markets are a little concerned about where the fed is going. the fed has told us that there will be at least two increases next year and maybe more. and that's scaring people. because they have

. >> the market is wanting to look forward and powell and -- it seems like powell and the wonks at theackward. maria: you're questioning him too. >> i'm not questioning him. i think eventually he'll get to the right place. my view is he won't hike at all next year. maria: you're not buying the rosy story. dagen: when he get to that place when it's too late? >> that's the concern. we have a backup on the garden state parkway because someone saw a bird fly by. as the cars back up, you run the risk of an actual accident. and i think he's flirting with danger here. if i were him, i would have calmed nature getcalm-- calmed . we don't have the risk of a systemic financial crisis. so even if we do have a recession, it's going to be more of a garden variety where you get a kind of tapping on the brakes, cutback in inventories, everything rebuilds and you go from there. we're not going to have a financial crisis. i look at the market and say it's almost discounted. maybe we have another 10% downside, even if a worst case scenario where he doesn't get his act together until mid-year. we're stil

bush walks in the room it is more like there is my pal, a very smart policy wonk. >> energetic and thoughtfulsandra: it makes you think what was different about that time than where we are today and why different things were possible then? >> a lot of factors have driven us to where we are. the cable news, social media, the blue areas are getting blue, red areas are getting redder. one of the things that comes through in all the tributes and everyone who came across george h.w. bush, remarked about the fact he was such a nice, respectful, sensitive man. didn't swear, was always very courteous to everyone involved. staff, members of the opposite political party. it didn't matter. that's something we don't see very often these days. >> sandra: we have spoken with so many of his former staff members both yesterday and today talked to another one of his speech writers and they all say while he was this gracious man, a loving family man and so pleasant to work with, he was tough, steve. >> i think that's -- you saw that in his response to some of the international situations that he had to deal wi