that's according to woodard. the president by his own admission acknowledged the depth of this crisis and yet told the american people something very different. how is that not an abject betrayal of the public trust? >> the president was always clear to the american people and acknowledged this was serious in march. that 200,000 lives could be lost. dr. fauci you are referring a quote he allegedly told bob woodard. i can give you quotes we could play saying the response was impressive. dr. fauci said i can tell you the president the first and only time i said you need to do mitigation strongly, the response was yes, we will do it. the second time i went with dr. birx to the president and said 15 days to slow the spread are not enough. we have to go to 30 days. people had problems with that. nonetheless the president went with that recommendation. a long litany of praise from dr. fauci and talking about something allegedly he told woodard. >> it's on tape. >> we can play the video clips. >> february 7th the presid

in the woodard book, he is still doing it -- >> no. >> in the woodard book, you have the president saying jong-un he knew it was going to work. it's like you meet a special woman. in a second you know it will happen. this is too much. >> it's called words but focus on the deeds. jesse? >> i reviewed all of the winners since 1904. there are some obvious choices. fdr and george marshall and mlk and some snubs. you have people you scratch our head like barack obama and then people you never heard. they wrote a book or something. if you look at the presidency so far subjectively, lower the temperature on the korean peninsula and do a peace deal wi with arabs and kosovo that qualifies you for this because the criteria done the best work for the fraternity of nation. and for holding the promotion of peace congresses. i agree with kennedy. i would send his mouth to the hague. >> [laughing]. >> i would give the results the peace prize. >> [laughing]. >> somebody got to bed early. you did quite a lot of research. >> johnny did it. >> [laughing]. >> poor johnny. he deserves a nobody else -- nobel p

they report on march 19th, trump admited to woodard he minimized the danger.y it down the president said. sarah, i will ask you to react. this is the charge coming out. this is a situation where if the president didn't know it was serious, he was ignoring the science. when he talks about it's serious, he didn't emphasize that to the public enough. this looks like he will be blamed for minimizing the danger. it was february 24th when nancy pelosi went out in china town in san francisco and encouraged people to go out there and tour. i would think she was privy to the same information the president was. what is your take on how damaging this would be? >> well, i want to know the context of that conversation before weighing in on specifics. a couple of the hard facts. the president was one of the first people to talk about the coronavirus. it was in his state of the union address before nancy pelosi went into china town. the idea we didn't take it serious is untrue. he also took early action cutting off travel from. china to minimize the pact in the united states

woodard's entire career is built on i do just the facts. very unusual to come out with a conclusion. he is entitled to do that as an author and say trump is unfit. he opens himself up to criticism, obviously that, two months before the election. the president called the book a political hit job. he opened himself to criticism he is part of the resistance. bob woodward is 77 years old and interviewed president trump 18 times and feels he is entitled to take a stand. >> dana: the news cycle goes so quickly. does this book have a lasting bunch or a couple of weeks we will go oh, yeah, there was that woodard book? >> the reason this may resonate for a longer period time than the slew of anti-trump books because it involves covid-19. such a personal issue to so many americans. in the earlier clip, you saw woodard responding to criticism. how could you sit on this? you had this information showing the president was taking it more seriously with you know that publicly. why didn't you publish it earlier. he said february 7th, there were no reported

my guest today is the award—winning black actor and activist alfre woodard.r latest movie, she plays the role of a warden responsible for executing prisoners on death row. so, for her, which comes first, her art or her activism? alfre woodard in california, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, i'm happy to be with you. right now, in terms of your own professional career and in terms of the politics of the united states, which matters more to you — your acting or your activism? well, i can't separate them. i am a storyteller. and storytellers have been telling the tales of the tribe since we first stood up on two legs around a fire. and the mission, the call that is given us is to keep the lore of the tribe, or the community... now we know we're one worldwide tribe. and to lift that mirror up to the community so that they can see themselves, hopefully understand themselves and move forward. so, the charge is still for the health of the community. so, that's why i act. that's why i tell stories. but do you never feel like you have to make choices — one or the other,

my guest today is the award—winning black actor and activist alfre woodard.latest movie, she plays the role of a warden responsible for executing prisoners on death row. so, for her, which comes first, her art or her activism? alfre woodard in california, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, i'm happy to be with you. right now, in terms of your own professional career and in terms of the politics of the united states, which matters more to you — your acting or your activism? well, i can't separate them. i am a storyteller. and storytellers have been telling the tales of the tribe since we first stood up on two legs around a fire. and the mission, the call that is given us is to keep the lore of the tribe, or the community... now we know we're one worldwide tribe. and to lift that mirror up to the community so that they can see themselves, hopefully understand themselves and move forward. so, the charge is still for the health of the community. so, that's why i act. that's why i tell stories. but do you never feel like you have to make choices — one or the other, b

i was very open where it was to woodard or anybody else. it's a political hit job.was woodard or anybody else, you can't show a sense of panic. >> he knew how dangerous it was. while this deadly disease ripped through our nation, he failed to do his job on purpose. a life-and-death betrayal of the american people. >> neil: today the bob woodward book, will it last? there have been other books that were supposed to bring down the president. they never achieved more than a week of discussion back and forth. my next guest will put this in perspective. very good to have you back. what do you make of the fallout of this? the only reason it might have more staying power is conversations with the president were taped so there is a record. >> the president spoke to bob woodward on the record and you could hear president trump saying he tried to down play it. there is some value to be had in downplaying a certain level of crises. because you don't want to grip the nation in fear and panic. but, in terms of this book coming out in september and this conversation being had in

. >> you told bob woodard the problem with the vaccine is it will take 13 to 14 months because you havedo you want to clarify that? >> no. that was a long time ago when i said that. we were not set up at that time. >> how many months ago? >> his book is obsolete. i read it last night rapidly because it was boring. i said a lot of really good things. people like to turn it around. i said really good things in that book. as an example, he doesn't cover -- i told him what we are doing in the middle east in a different way. that's not covered in his book. the whole thing is not covered in his book. one thing i will say and i respect the press for this one which is interesting, we have been praised for the deal we made yesterday with israel and two very important countries in the middle east. uae in particular. it's a warrior country led by a great warrior and a man who is highly respected. if you take a look at that and bahrain and israel making a deal. we have at least 4 or 5 others that want to come in. they would have come in yesterday. they are ready to trot. i think you will have a who

i'm joined now by ash—lee woodard henderson, an activist with the movement for black lives and the co—executivehlander research & education centre. thank you for your time, what you make of this situation?” think, like many black people all across this country and across the globe i am disheartened and i am furious with this decision. we know that even though three offices have breonna taylor's blood on their hands, that even this one that was charged has been charged with wanton endangerment, essentially saying that even the opportunity that they might have harmed someone who was one of her neighbours was more important than the fact that they put 20 bullets in her body. we know that to be sure, a wallet, and inanimate objects, has received more justice than breonna taylor today. and this decision is intended to enable state centred violence against the community. and so a stand in solidarity with the colleagues and comrades of ours in the streets of louisville tonight. of course it is absolutely gutting what happened. you say the officers had a blood on their hands, the problem is because of

are they facing exactly like you're saying still a lot of people are missing food they're missing woodard missing shelter and also they're missing medical treatment and psychological treatment which is also highly important in this situation i mean we're talking about people who are dealing with no minimum of 4 traumas being their home country to join in the fire on top of right now i think this is the fault of everyone and people need to find new solutions in regards to providing aid like for example ourselves we were able to provide aid already today after despite not being able to enter them we just meant . people the people who couldn't get out they met those stairs so we met in between we found new solutions to provide aid we've been talking to the refugees they want they've been here for years many of the waiting for papers to be processed waiting for an answer one of them told us we just want an all star yes or no and then you know whether that means we have to go back but it's this limbo that has taken a huge toll you do have tens of thousands of people in refugee camps. with thei

the woodard book says that the president knew in january about the severity but continued to hold ralliesll, i am with dana on this. if you were not consistent in criticizing large groups meaning they were affected by politics. like silent on the mass protests that burned mournt businesses. -- minority businesses. then you are no longer at the adult table when we are talking about this. i find it rich that the media cares president people they marginalized for the last 4 years. we don't buy your concern. you think these people are evil so don't pretend to care. >> i don't think that. but you think that, okay. d daggan yesterday, biden's spokesman said biden held rallies in march but didn't have the same information the president did about the severity of the virus. >> in march because he was listening to governor cuomo. vaccines are coming and this is not just from president trump. pfizer said it will trail data ready by the end of october. astrazeneca resuming the vaccine trials in the u.k. we will have multiple vaccine. maybe the biden campaign stop the fear mongering about frightening

american public in weeks after that in a series of interviews with veteran washington journalist bob woodard, trump admits that the virus is deadly and highly contagious >> so, what was president xi saying yesterday >> oh, we were talking mostly about the virus and i think he's going to have it in good shape but, you know, it's a very tricky situation it's -- it goes -- it goes through air, bob that's always tougher than the touch. you know, the touch, you don't have to touch things, right, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed. and so to that's a very tricky one, a that's a very delicate one. it's also more deadly than your flus this is more deadly, this is 5 per -- you know, this is 5% versus 1% and less than 1%, you know so this is deadly stuff. >> all right, just weeks later, trump publicly doubted the exact same threat he just acknowledged to woodward there in public. >> fatality rate of 1%. this has a fatality rate of between 3% >> we don't exactly. the flu is much higher than that. >> later in march, the president explained to woodward why he felt the need to dismiss the

are they facing exactly like you're saying still a lot of people are missing food they're missing woodard missing shelter and also they're missing medical treatment and psychological treatment which is also highly important in this situation i mean we're talking about people who are dealing with no minimum of 4 traumas being their home country to join in the fire on top of right now i think this is the fault of everyone and people need to find new solutions in regards to providing aid like for example ourselves we were able to provide aid already today after despite not being able to enter them we just meant . people that people who couldn't get out they met those stairs so we met them in between we found new solutions to provide aid we've been talking to the refugees they want they've been here for years many of the waiting for papers to be processed waiting for an answer one of them told us we just want an all star yes or no and then you know whether that means we have to go back but it's this limbo that has taken a huge toll as you do have tens of thousands of people in refugee camps.