i got to go back, see -- >> fred woodhouse is the communications director for the republican national committee and john feehery from quinn gillespie communications. he is a strategist. i want to start with you, if that wasn't bad enough, take a look at this, here is herman cain defending himself about that little mistake later on. >> mr. cain, do you think the libya comments reinforce the idea that -- >> let us walk through. u don't have a thorough understanding of for rip policy? >> 9-9-9. >> oh, please. >> there you have t when in doubt, you go back to your economic plan, which is easy to remember, 9-9-9. i think most americans can remember that after this. brad, we are probably past the point where going back to 9-9en 49 can save the big missteps when we talk about what is going on, especially when he is being pressed for logical answers on where he stands on libya. >> well, exactly h i guess to some extent, you could say in that last bite there, he was on mess. an but you know, look, thomas, i think what happened to herman cain yesterday speaks for itself but also i will lust try