that is, not usually, woodlawn forsman means by significant volume. that usually happens when we are seasoned gigabytes upon gigabytes of electronic information. the other factor that is missing here is attorney client privilege information. both of the cases that the trump lawyers site, evan obligation to judge cannon, our context in which the subject of the search was himself or herself a lawyer who represented other clients. and there was a real danger that the fbi was going to sweep in all sorts of attorney-client privilege information. that is not an argument for president trump's lawyers to be making here. to the extent that they're arguing privilege, they are not doing so with any specificity. which would really get the federal judge the basis for a special master. >> hang on, when you talk about a special master, you say, too, that we are familiar with this because of both michael cohen and rudy giuliani cases. both attorneys. the u.s. special master's to review the documents, trying to weed out any material that could be covered under attorne