all these woods, if police do believe that arthur buckle is in the woods, this is a massive area thatthey need to search right now. that is why they have crews that are up and down the garden state parkway throughout this area. so this is just the beginning of the search although police are hoping that they can use the canines, get a sense, get a trail and hopefully track this guy down. i'm going to walk over one more time. we can see since we've gone on the air with this live shot that police vehicle has moved up. so they're moving gradually down the garden state parkway as they continue the search. we'll be back again in another 30 minutes with another update, again, this is continuing to unfold this morning here. for now, live in ocean county, matt delucia, nbc 10 news. >> thank you for that information. we're still double checking to see if schools in the area will open today. we're making phone calls. make sure you have the nbc 10 app. it's the fastest way to stay updated on breaking news. we'll send push alerts to your phones. >>> in the last hour, philadelphia police caught up

wood and evans had just left a south philly gentleman's club.lieve they were followed by two, three hit men possibly tied to the rival motorcycle club. >> they're looking for ways to open and get back in that case. >> a lot of times you know who the doer is and you know people who know who the doer is but it's not enough to make an arrest. >> wood's murder rocked help angel chapter in phillies just months after it was established. his funeral drew hundreds of bikers from across the country, including the leaders of the help angel's mother club. also sparked concerns about a biker war. >> i remember distinctly saying that we were going to lay the law down, and we were going to stave off any retaliatory shootings that may result. >> reporter: within days of wood's murder, doorway and another pagan were questioned. only was there as they left homicide headquarters. >> are they asking you about the murder. >> reporter: neither man wanted to answer. >> you wait till information comes in on the case. >> reporter: steven the former former president of

today that wood is beautiful. so as paleontologist bill parker explains, rangers occasionally see visitors trying to smuggle a piece home as a souvenir. >> people tend to have the guilty conscience, right? and that's generally there's telltale signs of that. >> reporter: there are signs that attempt to deter would-be wood burglars. it's a crime the take anything out of the park, but not surprisingly, people still do. what is surprising is that some of that wood has come back. >> this is a material that was returned to the park. there are two pieces of wood in here. >> reporter: the letters that accompany the heavy packages speak of a long-ago theft that's weighed heavy on the conscience. if you take petrified wood, beware of the consequences. this is a poem. >> reporter: if you take petrified wood, beware of the consequences. you should. though enshrined on a shelf still brought him ill health, some things are plain no good. >> some people ascribe a curse to the wood. i don't know how much i buy that, because if y

maybe this poor piece of wood was part of the collateral damage. who knows? over the years, presidents come and presidents go, redecorating, repainting, and renovating to suit their individual tastes. then, in 1902, theodore roosevelt begins the first wholesale restoration of the mansion that he officially names "the white house." it's time to pick up the thread of this strange inheritance story. according to mike meister, in 1902, his great-uncle, joseph williamson jr., is a law student at georgetown university in d.c. one day, he strolls down pennsylvania avenue, spots the piece of wood in a junk pile, and thinks, "it's pretty neat." >> joseph jr. picked it up. >> like a yard sale? did they buy it? >> no, it was scrap. i mean, it was things that were gonna be eventually hauled off to landfills, burned, whatever. >> he brings it home to illinois from law school and gives it to his father as a memento. his dad inscribes his name and writes the date on the back. the piece is handed down in the family to mike's dad, wayne meister, in the 1930s. where was it kep

today that wood is beautiful. visitors trying to smuggle a piece home as a souvenir. >> people tend to have the guilty conscience, right? and that's generally there's telltale signs of that. >> reporter: there are signs that attempt to deter would-be wood burglars. it's a crime the take anything out of the park, but not surprisingly, people still do. what is surprising is that some of that wood has come back. >> this is a material that was returned to the park. there are two pieces of wood in here. >> reporter: the letters that accompany the heavy packages speak of a long-ago theft that's weighed heavy on the conscience. if you take petrified wood, beware of the consequences. this is a poem. >> reporter: if you take petrified wood, beware of the consequences. you should. though enshrined on a still brought him ill health, some things are plain no good. >> some people ascribe a curse to the wood. i don't know how much i buy that, because if you're the kind of person who would take something from national park, mayb

then mario woods happened. then you had made things happen. i think this would not be the case. >> i want to bring you in because he was a trigger for your racial justice committee in the sense that you have come out with recommendations to the board of supervisors and demanding that an independent office of citizens be established. you want a separate internal affairs division focussing on racism issues. how will that make a difference since there is already an internal affairs department? >> we are asking for an independent office of citizens complaint to be created because right now the office of citizens complaints is under the same budget as the police department. in 2015 the office of citizens complaint did not sustain one complaint of racial bias against the police department. >> how many were filed? >> i don't know how many were filed but you can see from the culture of the police department with the killing of mario woods, with the racist text messages that there has been an emdemic problem with the san francisco police department. we

are we going to see tiger woods in june?e will hear more a away a new mercedes benz on wakeup washington. tune into find florist center. >>> now, wusa9 game on sports with kristen berset. brought to you by xfinity. >>> this june marks the 10th anniversary of the quicken loan return to the congressional country club. are we going to see the tournament host tiger woods out here on the golf course. he was here today with the director of the tournament and congressional country club answering those questions. he says he is working hard and getting back and his game is getting back to where he wants it to be but he can give us a timetable of his return. he said if i could, i would love to because i would love to be back out there. i spoke with tiger before we all went out and played a round of golf. >> i look forward to just competing again. i haven't competed since august of last year and that's a long time. i have played all right for three days and didn't play on sunday. it was a tough year and wasn't feeling physically well a

that's real wood?is is real wood. >> [ gasps ] >> it's made up of cedar, spruce, and hemlock, and it was woven together very carefully in place. >> i want this. >> tony's updates dovetail with the timeless elements conceived by his father 65 years before. >> the fireplace is magnificent. >> this was part of the original it's the same stone my father used from this stone wall out here, and so he tied the outdoors to the indoors. >> it's so beautifully done. well, it looks to me like you own portland. this is some view. >> this is why we call this the magic place. you never get tired of looking at this. >> i wouldn't. what would your dad say if he saw this place today? >> he would like it a lot better than the way it was when i inherited it. >> really? >> i don't know anybody who doesn't love this house. >> count peggy moretti among local preservationists no longer worried about what tony might do to his dad's house. >> pietro left a mark here in the northwest. he's a very special legacy, and tony added

>> we depend on wood. our houses, the furniture, it's all made of wood.sell something, it's wood. we also cook with wood charcoal. when there's nothing left, people will move on. that's what will happen. reporter: but where to? at the field station in the still intact forest, the researchers are hoping to find a solution. this is where they live and make their initial analyses. they've already figured out a few things about the noises lemurs make. alessio anania: when an individual gets lost, he starts to call all the others with this vocalization. and the group mates usually answer with this one. reporter: the local forestry authority is currently building here. the new boss wants to boost eco-tourism. if this brings jobs for the forest will subside. ony rabearivololona: we're trying to work more closely with the villagers and integrate them more in the conservation process. reporter: the researchers also want to help improve living conditions in the local villages. their association is called "friends of kirindy," and today they're celebrating with the

a man shot and found in woods off of allentown road. we got a news crew headed there. >>> we are hearing from off duty emt that shot a little boy shot in cross fire. veronica was in a church and heard gunshots and looked around and found a boy bleeding in a woman's lap. basserville grabbed a trauma kit and helped to keep him calm. >> it was hard but in that situation i would feel myself breaking down but i said you got to get it somebody that needs your help and let's go to work. >> other crews arrived and the boy was taken to the hospital. police expect him to survive. >> a man fell to his death. sky 9 flew over the scene where a victim fell from a tower on log house road. montgomery county don't expect anything criminal but are investigating it. >> to a mystery in fairfax county. was it murder, suicide or an sudden. police are trying to figure out how a body ended up in the water in the lakeside apartments. bruce, what do you know? >> reporter: i know it is a sad story. we know the victim was a female but we don't know if she was an a

the sam woods room honors the legacy of mr. woods but also is used for many different ways.we have meetings in here, this is where students from the university come in and learn about the sam woods collection and other materials we have here. we have his artwork, furniture adorning this room, including a few exhibit cases and a portrait of mr. woods himself. in his collection we have over 1200 books. in addition we have different artifacts like viking helmet, or various furniture and paintings, imprints and imprints and a slew of different materials. so throughout sam woods career he started collecting a lot of books, a lot of different materials that showed his interest in learning and education. for the end of his life he married many bush was the heir to the bush fortune. they lived in a beautiful castle mansion at the foot of the alps. they would entertain a lot of people there. they would also house a lot of these books and artifacts as well. after her death, he had the intention of moving back to hattiesburg where he had family. he had sent all of his books and a lot o

vanderbilt ball the original breakers built of wood in 1885. it burned he hired architect richard morris hunt who designed its replacement. completed in 1895, the rebuilt breakers is a 70-room italian renaissance-style palazzo. it covers nearly 140,000 sq windows, many with commanding views of the ocean. not that the breakers is the only newport cottage a vanderbilt built. nearby stands the marble house, built between 1888 stand 1892 by cornelius' younger brother, william. also designed by richard morris hunt, william vanderbilt gave it to his wife alva as her 39th birthday present. today both the breakers and the marble house belong to the preservation society of newport county. both are also national historic landmarks. and make very clear why mark twain coined the expression, the guilded age. this is the largest of the breakers 27 fireplaces. all it takes to light a rip rip-roaring sphere just one small ben tracy pace homage to the match book. >> they come in different shapes, sizes and colors the little books and boxes concealing the fire w

you have thick woods. only advantage it is sunlight. k-9 dogs in fact, everyone with a good nose and was available in this area is out there sniffing him out. hopefully they have pick up his scent somehow, through whatever he did inside of that rest area there but this is developing as we are's talking to you so the latest they is they think he is in that gray outfit you see there with those construction type work boots and he is clean shave even. if you spotted him you will recognize him because he has got that asian symbol tattoo below his left eye and tattoos on both wrists. so hard to hide when you get a tattoo on your face and somehow he is shaving even they he is living with the woods and family. they are outside looking for him. they shore they are still in this area he could have hitchhike too there is a lot of possibilities but they are thinking he is maybe still on foot still walking around and if he is stopped anybody in the car they would have reported to it police. alex and mike. >> i'll tell you, lock your door. anywhere i

he's been a big part of the justice for mario woods coalition. we want to mention a lot of folks are eager to talk with the new acting chief. so they say that they plan to reach out to him to try to sit down and iron out their differences and try to come together with a resolution along with a police commission with regards to the use of excessive force and all of these things that have been going on. as you know, three deadly officer involved shootings in the past six months. >> going back to what you said at the top, the chief wasn't fired, he was asked to resign. what is the difference there? ? >> reporter: you know, he did resign. let's move over here. come on over here. a little scuffle over there. he had planned on retiring is basically what the deal was. so he knew that that was going to come soon. i think he wanted to go out on a high note and he told us before he wanted to work hard to accomplish the goals the commission set forth and the community was demanding. he wanted to make it right. he was upset he didn't get the chance to do tha

and i tore off running into the woods.hen, when i got into the woods, her co-worker allison was there. and she said, "oh my god. it's -- it's her. we found her. there's her hair." >> how awful for you. >> yeah. >> reporter: nique leili's sister amy and her friend alison felt sure the body beneath the leaves had to be nique's. >> it was terrible. i think everybody was a little bit shocked. so i just kind of went into crisis mode and i called 911. >> reporter: within minutes police, ambulances and news cameras were converging on the patch of woods where the body was found. nique's mother, harriett garrett, says she heard the news when a cop told her she'd have to stop leafleting the neighborhood. >> someone in the neighborhood had complained. and while he is talking to me, his radio goes off. it's a dispatch. body has been found. >> you hear it over the dispatch. >> yes, sir. yes, sir. >> do you actually go to that place, in that little bit of woods? >> yes. well, i couldn't -- by the time i got there they already had the cr

adachi said the tide turned on now former chief suhr december 2nd with the fatal shooting of mario woods in the bayview not far from today's shooting. >> i think at this moment in time we needed the police chief to say that's not the way this should be done. >> reporter: suhr defended the actions of officers that day, even when video of the woods confrontation hit social media. >> i always believed that chief suhr cringed when he saw what happened in the mario woods shooting, that if he were there at the scene, he would have done everything possible to make sure that didn't happen. yet that's what happened. >> reporter: then just last month officers killed transient luis gongora in the mission fatally shooting him, 32 seconds after arriving on scene. in adachi's mind today's shooting of an unarmed woman in a car by a sergeant was the final straw. >> i think this shooting is endemic of what's wrong with the san francisco police department, that we have a police department that is out of control. >> reporter: in san francisco andria borba, kpix5. >> here's a look at front page of tomorrow'

the sam woods room honors the legacy of mr. woods, but it also is used for many different ways. we have meetings in here, this is where students from the university come in and learn about the sam woods collection, other materials we have here. we have his artwork and furniture adorning this room including a couple of exhibit cases and a portrait of mr. woods himself. in his collection we have over 1200 books. in addition, we have different artifacts like a viking helmet or various furniture and paintings and prints and a whole slew of different materials. so throughout sam woods' career, he started collecting a lot of books and a lot of different materials that showed his interest in learning and in education. towards the end of his life he married minnie bush who was the heir to the bush fortune. and they lived in a beautiful castle, mansion at the foot of the alps, and they would entertain a lot of people there and house a lot of these books, materials you're going to see today and artifacts as well. after her death he had the intention of moving back to hattiesburg where he

now they need money -- and wood. wildfires, often send -- set intentionally rage everywhere in , nepal. they eat their way through the mountains, and are easily visible at night. animals die because they can't escape them. that puts biodiversity at risk. the next day, horrified villagers visit the devastated forest. just recently they had , painstakingly planted new trees. >> we don't know who was responsible. people are saying someone was clearing his field and the fire accidentally spread. we saw it from far away and quickly went to the spot and tried to put if out, but we couldn't. reporter it's extremely dry. : everyone is waiting for the monsoon to bring rain. fires are sparked off by cigarettes or carelessness, or deliberately laid to clear new land for farming. the international centre for integrated mountain development has focused on reforestation for many years. it helps locals form committees to protect the forest. >> you cannot conduct agriculture here. there is no water. what we want to do is, we are try

it was carefully canvassed. >> it's thick woods, he could be hiding under a log there.

the bear was spotted in the woods near philadelphia's chestnut hill. snapped along forbid p drive in the valley green inn. we show you there's excitement over this bear that even gave wildlife officials the slip. >> running in there. >> reporter: news to ryan. >> where? >> reporter: one of the few people we caught up with who had not heard of the small black bear seen swimming in the creek this afternoon. >> everyone else is, like, a bear, scared. >> reporter: a member of the friends of the park were fishing today when the bear went after its own fish. the man snapped the pictures of the bear and called the offices. >> they decided it was too exciting to pass up the possibility, so we drove down into the park, and missed seeing the bar. >> reporter: they saw something wr rustling in the woods. this park has been sheer since the 1860s, and this is the first documented sighting. they tracked the bear to a wooded area, but they lost sight of the bear. they say right now, they are not going to actively hunt for the bear, but relying on sightings and come b

woods beat two other mom inventors.addition to a trophy and bragging rights, woods will be selling her product on qvc. >>> a significant milestone for athletes competing in the summer olympics. we are less than 100 days away from opening ceremonies. this is going to be the second olympic games for bethesda native and swimmer katie he deck i can. sh came to fame in 2012 since then she became the world's record holder in three races. she says the opportunity to represent the u.s. is part of what drives her. >> i have fun setting high goals and working hards those. i have fun every day in practice, training with hard-working teammates. as long as swimming is still fun for me i think i can continue to improve and it's just been a lot of fun competing internationally and having the opportunity to represent my country. >> go katie. wednesday marked 100 days until the games. they officially open august 5th. they have become a popular home improvement addition but are solar panels right for you? and do they save you money? we'l

police told me may found the woman's cell phone and a knife and a tent in the woods. they are considering some of that evidence, but they don't know yet whether or not it is tied directly to this suspect. live in berlin tonight, nbc 10 news. >>> large crowds waited hours in line to be part of the rally. >> an event to help governor chris christie. >> a live look outside there in lawrenceville. protesters lining up outside the event as we look what's going on inside as well. >> thousands of people paid $200 to get into this event. all of the money will go to help governor chris christie pay off his $250,000 campaign debt incured running for president. drew smith is live now from inside that event. we can see behind you a lot of people are already gathered there, drew. >> reporter: yeah. a lot of people are in here excited to see trump speak expected in an hour. up on stage with him is governor chris christie, one of trump's biggest supporters, and you can bet he's happy that presumptive nominee is here to help him out. donald trump in town means good business for the p

if you liked wood working class of course i did. >> or never had experience with wood work, come checkmontoya here building us something very special. he will talk about the butterfly joint which started about a year ago on father's day and this is a great place for kids of all ages, talking it to kids of all ages to adults. good morning, danny. how are you? >> i'm doing great, thank you. >> reporter: tell me about the idea and the response from people. >> the idea is try to bring back something that we had as kids. i'm just about to turn 40. when i grew up, hi woodshop in junior high and high school and those vocational schools pretty much impacted me in a way that it got me to teach my kindergarteners and first graders from that guide, from that view point, how to make things from your hands and having your hand directly attached to your brain. everything you think is in 3d and you create things, whatever comes up in your mind, you create it. >> this is an experience that many kids don't get? >> not at all. bud yet cuts, taking that away from schools. it's come to this where we have

it happened at the wood crest station in cherry hill at 1:30 a.m. patco said the worker was not seriously hurt. >>> new an official at cabrini college confirmed that cabrini professor died in a crash. he was walking along wayne avenue in wayne saturday night. the driver remained at the scene. cabrini has not released his name. he died of his injuries. >>> the search is on for a killer who dpunld -- gunned down a 14-year-old boy and wounded two others. the victim is zenas powell and his cousin quamar powell was critically injured. police say the teens were not the intended victims. the third victim shareholder the frightening moments she nearly lost her life in the hail of gunfire. hear her story in the next half-hour. >>> a montgomery county woman is underarrest accused of shooting her -- under arrest cooled of shooting her husband to death. police were called for a domestic dispute and found 67-year-old man dead in the garage. the man was shot five times. makeneighbors say they heard the come arguing during the past week. >>> it surprising they see

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here's travis wood in for the bull pen. wood used to be a startling pitcher for the cubs. now almost exclusively used out of bull pen. he's not made a sing start this year. you'll see his numbers. 11 innings, eight hits allowed, e.r.a. a little above 4. >> mike: pretty good stuff. low 90s fastball, sink and cut. curve ball, slider and change-up. >> jon: left field, soler drifting back on it. under it now. denard span is now 0 for 4. addison russell also came into the game when wood came on. part of a double switch. so russell is now at shortstop and baez has moved over to second base. >> mike: any time you see a guy that's a starter as travis wood has been, he's going to have a command of four or five types of movement. now, all of a sudden -- that's an asset that stands out. especially a guy from the left side. >> jon: 0-2 to joe panik. who has walked, singled and also struck out. by the way, baez moved over to third base. not to second base. baez who aim came up as a second baseman with the cubs originally, but he's at third base. addison russell will be leading off the

60 to a hundred feet back into the woods. at gun point gave him very firm directions. arthur buckel complied and the state corrections officer was able to -- to place him in handcuffs. >> reporter: buckel had been the subject of a manhunt since he escaped from a state minimum security facility in hammonton last week. he was spotted yesterday in a surveillance video at the forked river parkway rest area near where he was picked up today. apparently he had signaled the desire via a family member he wanted to turn himself in yesterday but failed to show when police arrived last night. that triggered an overnight ground and air search of this nearby neighborhood. >> the helicopters were directly over like this development and searching their lights into the wooded area. >> reporter: ground units searched houses still under construction. >> the cops were here last night looking under the houses that are under construction in case he tried to get in there. which is something he might have done. >> reporter: today after being taken

this morning is now out of the woods but the drivers are not out of the woods on the southbound side of 95, the left lane is slowly squeezing by into the state of delaware this is creating a massive backlog and as chopper 6 hd pans to the right you see the poor people stuck on 95 southbound waiting to come down from the area of the blue route to the state line not getting anywhere quickly, lets go to the maps and check the speeds, 5 miles per hour, 12 miles per hour. and again you want to stay local. 291 or 13 instead of 95 southbound or stay on the southbound side of route 1 the media bypass or work your way into new jersey and use 295 southbound, it's clear but 95 southbound is a mess and a crash on 452 southbound. and problems here in warrington with a milk truck that ran off the 202 parkway than is blocked by the county line area here, and stay with stump road or countynstead. lots going on we'll check it again in the 5:00 hour. >> see you then matt thank you. >>> still ahead on "action news" we have tips to sticking to a budget and actually saving money while planning your weddi

police are searching a wooded area at a garden state parkway rest stop. that's where this man, escaped inmate arthur buckle was spotted late last night. >>> bill cosby heads back to court in montgomery county later this month. prosecutors say he could meet his accuser face to face. >>> and triple the love this mother's day. an atlantic county family welcomed home three bundles of joy over the weekend and their home is already full of life and love. >>> 4:30. good morning. this is "nbc 10 news today." i'm tracy davidson. let's begin with meteorologist bill henley with his first alert neighborhood forecast. a look at conditions right where you live. bill? >> we're seeing a rank of conditions this morning. look at the cool air in new jersey, 40 degrees. the pennsylvania suburbs at 43 while it's in theç low 50s in philadelphia. it's dropped down to 42 degrees in lehigh valley and still cooling at this hour. 47, though, at 7:00. bright sunshine and at 10:00, a few extra clouds will be coming in. look at that warmup, 64 degrees by 10:00, into the 70s this afte

they searched in the woods using dogs, the dogs led them into the woods and lost the trail. nothing else was left to indicate buckle was there. they are interviewing people possibly people who may have seen him that were at the rest stop overnight. what we know about the entire case, buckle escaped from the ancora unit of bay side state prison last tuesday after a confirmed spotting at a barnegot cvs, there was an intense search. barnegot township police were convinced he left the area. he has a violent history. he was scheduled for parole this month. he perceivesly served 14 years in prison after pleading guilty of aggravate manslaughter of a 10-month-old child. you can see the officers behind us organizing where they are off to next, we do not know, we presume the search is on going at this time. we're waiting to learn more information from state police, but somebody here at the rest stop believes they saw that escaped inmate arthur buckle this was a man seen on surveillance video here, as well, something important to note he is dangerous, police say do not approach him. i

and they literally live out in the woods. yes, the woods. they have tents. they set the perimeter. they live in the woods. they are vietnam veterans. they have been out there for 40 years. they won't come in. i keep asking and they say we are fine. but the thing of it is is that these guys know they are coo coo for cocoa puffs. they will tell me that. but when they went to the v.a. when you have a mental illness or mental problem you are in pain. it is a physical pain that you feel. it's visceral. when they would go to the v.a. and say i'm in pain they would get pain medications which is not what they needed. that is what they would get is pain medications. what they needed was maybe mood stabilizer but most importantly they needed someone to listen and someone to talk to. so you know these guys years ago threw away their meds. they don't use them anymore. they don't. they just treat -- this is their community. this is their family. and they help each other out. i go out to the woods in the winter time to see them and make sure they get what they need especially medications. i have