and woody guthrie was there. he wasi wasreally been surprised that none of the major biographies about woody have made a point of actually placing him physically at peekskill, because he was so astounded by what he saw. he was on a bus with lee hays, and he said, you know, "i've seen some bad stuff, but this is about the worst i have ever seen." and lee hays remembered that, that, you know, woody was leading these frightened people in the bus. he was leading them in singing songs, like i'myou know, "takes a worried man to sing a worried song, i'm worried now but i won't be worried long." and he's got really good attitude to him. you know, he's making quite brave jokes, like, you know, "anybody got a rock? there's a window what needs to be opened back here." you know, things like that. and at one point, hays remembered that woody pinned up a shirt against the window to stop the glass from breaking inwards, and he said, "wouldn't you know it? woody pinned up a red shirt." you know. and woody was so astounded by what

woody guthrie who said every year we waste enough to feed the ones who starve. greatest country in the world do we have issues like childhood hunger? >> i think there is a breakdown on delivery system essentially. so you've got the food. you've got kids. but the mechanisms aren't strong enough to connect it. so we've got 60 million kids at risk of hunger and yet less than half of kids in this country who are eligible to get a free nutritious school breakfast to start their day are actually getting it. >> john: why is that? >> it is a number of reasons. when you get down to the granular basis, it is everything from the fact that there's stigma that's attached in some cases with school breakfast. only quote-unquote the poor kids to go the cafeteria for breakfast while everybody goes for lunch. there are transportation issues. how do kids and families get to school early enough for breakfast. there are red tape issues as well. so we work to knock down those barriers to access in innovative ways to be able to make sure kids are starting their day with the nutritious