jim woolsey, what is the answer? why didn't the sanctions regime collapse iran and move toward complete nuclear program that it wants? >> i think it will come very close to doing that anyway. we have to realize what we've got here and what we're dealing with. i led once negotiations and participated with the soviets. the soviets was a different situation. they're far from lovely folks to deal with, but with iran we're dealing with the leadership that are theocratic totalitarian genocidal imperialists and i think each of those words can be supported. they have a word which says lying to inphi des, it's recommended -- lying to infidels, it's recommended, we are not dealing with an audit contract state we have to be careful with. >> woodruff: my question is, if this doesn't work, what's the alternative? isn't the alternative, michael hayden, iran has a clear path to do what its? >> it depends on american leadership, it depends on how clear we state our reasons this is not a good enough deal. and good enough might be as

james woolsey, jim woolsey, thanks very much for joining us. >>> let's get more on the breaking newss the former israeli spy jonathan jay pal lard our paul cr. ickshank is joining us and bob bahr as will as phil mudd s it's time i guess, if the parole board says 30 years is enough. what do you say? >> if the pa parol board says he's done his time that said in my generation this guy is pond scum. i don't care who he stole for, the courts convicted him, they convicted him for decades of time. i did the oath in the cia auditorium that said you don't spy for anybody. i respect the former director i'm not interested in arguments about who he spied for. he violated the oath we were told not to violate. he ought to rot. if he's done that's fine. >> bob, what do you think? >> i think 30 years is a long time as director woolsey said he didn't get anyone killed not like hansen or ames. he did limited damage. i think 30 years is enough. if the parole board says he can go let him go. >>> paul i want to talk about two former detainees at the u.s. naval base at guantanamo bay in cuba the detention

lou: james woolsey, great to have you here. >> great to be with you.be sure to vote in our poll tonight. the question is -- we'd like to hear from you, cast your vote at loudobbs.com. >>> a driver's dash cam captured a frightening moment when a semi truck driver lost control of his big rig. the accident occurred in russia. an oncoming truck, the tire blew out. the truck flipping sideways, charge straight towards the camera, just missing a car. no injuries amazingly as a result. a few thoughts on hillary clinton's contempt for a transparency and somewhat convincing detachment from reality. >>> and a delta 4 rocket puts on a spectacular sunset show. we'll have the images and details on the mission next. stay with us. much more ahead. we're coming right back. .ú.úññññññoññ . lou: a few thoughts now on the ever protective liberal mainstream media and hillary clinton's ever changing story about the classified information on her private e-mail server. the "new york times" today reported that two inspectors general referred the matter to the justice departmen

director jims woolsey told al jazeera tonight that he peels jonathan pollard's release is overdue. >> people that spy for friendly countries such as south korea, philippines and greece historically in united states have been sentenced to not stay in prison for more than six or seven or eight years. they stayed that long. i had that position since late '90s that i thought it was time to release him because he was serving the same time as other spies from friendly countries. the people that stay for life are people like ames and hanson who had americans killed and traitors backing enemies of the united states such as the soviet union >>> woolsey said it's unclear why pollard was incarcerated for so long but doesn't think it was an attempt to apiece israel over the iranian nuclear deal >>> president obama's top cabinet secretaries were on capital hill defending the deal facing the panel in the house. many lawmakers argued the deal would not prevent iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. as libby casey reports, secretary of state john kerry fought back arguing scrapping it would not make it bet

that's why director woolsey is so right. if we don't start doing disruptive player where they plan finance and recruit and launch their propaganda campaigns, this is going to be a long war indeed and we're going to come out on the losing end of it. >> thank you both s. i hope ufz a safe and happy fourth of july. >>> we finally know what caused the crash. there was more to it than just a stalled engine. that story is next. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. if you misplaced your discover card you can now use freeze it to prevent new purchases on your account in seconds. and once you find it you can switch it right on again. you're back! freeze it, only from discover. get it at discover.com. >>> ti

former cia director james woolsey and form he governor george pataki joined the rally. al jazeera's paul beban was there. >> reporter: thousands of people packed in along both sides of seventh avenue stretching from times square 42nd street down to about 40th. if the organizers are correct there's as many as ten to 2012,000 people12,000people here. the main sentiment stop iran, no nukes for iran, this is a bad deal both for the united states and for israel. this protest was organized by a coalition of conservatives and jewish groups from across the country, the main organized the jewish rapid response coalition saying they brought people from all around the country and all around the region. we've spoken to some of the speakers here, also some of the protests about why they are here today. >> there are several alternatives. either iran can change its activities in supporting international terrorism and a tyrannical government and be a peaceful nation and signal that. that's one option. that's their choice to make. the other option is, war will be in the middle east. >>

former cia director james woolsey and former governor pataki joined the event. >>> jason rezaian rezaian's family are still hoping. lisa stark has the story. >> charged with espionage and other crimes, that u.s. officials call a sham. on the anniversary of his arrest, another call to free the 39-year-old journalist. >> freedom is his right. and we call again on iran, its government and its judiciary to let this decent and innocent man go. >> reporter: a washington post reporter rezaian and his wife were taken from their tehran home in the middle of the night last july. she is out on jail. rezaian's older brother ali has been relentlessly advocating for his release. negotiations with iran over the nuclear programs. >> how might that impact the willingness of the iranian government to change this case? >> it's now time for the iranian government, let jason go. >> jason rezaian is one of three iranian americans imprisoned in iran. a fourth american is missing and believed jailed although the iranian government denies that. the state department and iran confirm that during the nuclear gloakses

liz: ambassador james woolsey, former director of the cia, speaking with us along with former shilohor david rubin. thank you both very much. i know it's late in israel. we appreciate you getting in the chair for us. >>> the russians are definitely supporting the iranians when it comes to lifting the arms embargo because they're working on selling the iranians a missile system. just keep that in mind, putin always inserting himself. >>> well, the greeks take to the streets as the government agrees to a punishing ultimatum and lightning fast passage of reforms. but doubts remain about greece's ability to implement the changes by a wednesday deadline. we've got two big deadlines on wednesday, iran and greece. greece has also set, what a surprise, to miss another payment to the international monetary fund. sources close to the issue say it will fail to pay the $497 million eau owed to the -- owed to the fund this monday. ashley webster with this report from athens. >> reporter: well, liz, all is quiet in athens at this hour, but all the action is going to take place in that greek parlia

protest is organized by the jewish response coalition, and some of the others, cia director, james woolsey, he said that the only two worse in the u.s. are use of force or be surrender. we heard the holocaust quotes, never again, being chanted here and calling obama a traitor. and it will go on for another hour or so. it seems to be growing [ unintelligible ] here in time square. >> all right paul there from time square, and the white house said that it's in the final stables of drafting a plan to close down the prison at guantanamo bay. president obama had promised to do so from his first official day in office in 2008. but his administration says that his efforts have been blocked by congress. >> we need to continue to responsibly transfer to foreign countries those detainees who have been slate forward transfer, and the second thing detainees who can be charged in the system. >> 106 detainees are still there, down from 1100 when the prison was opened by george w. bush in 2002. >>> a cheese activist is free to travel again. his passport was returned to him after charges of tax evasion. h

. >> ambassador woolsey, thank you for joining us on the program. >> thank you. >> iran has shine a new light on prisoners in their prison. a missionary is 32 today, he has spent the last three birthdays in iranian prison accused of spying. bisi onile-ere spoke with his family in detroit. >> john, amir ahmadi's family had been fight forgiveries release. when the iran nuclear deal was announceed they saw it as a sign of hope. now they're waiting for the next move. >> it's a nightmare. we wake up every morning if this is a bad dream. >> this has been the reality for sarah hekmati and her moment. her young brother amir an iranian-american visiting iran. he has never returned. >> we have we have not gotten used to the fact that this is happening to us. >> initially charged with espionage, a former marine and defense contractor was sentenced to death but now is serving a ten-year prison sentence. >> his only crime was to visit his grandmother and having the history of being in the marines. >> one of ten americans being held by iran. the obama administration has been criticized for not guaran

trips to jordan and elsewhere in the region, kuwait and other trips to former rye cia director james woolseyn what at the trips tell us. >> they tell us something about setting him aside from others and perhaps some add influence but generally speaking nobody need tuesday travel in order to become radical islamist jihadi these days. you can get it all from the internet, whether you're getting into classrooms or chat rooms or tweeting or whatever. this is not something that really requires travel and meetings. >> nevertheless, wouldn't that get your attention director? even if you cross-reference the people of muslim descent going back these countries and coming back that limits it rare than the omnibus search of 120 million americans' phone records. >> i think it doesn't really limit it. it's one indicator. travel to that part of the world can be something that folds you into focusing on an individual. but there's too much of that and too many people who will commit terrorism in the absence of travel. it's not a real sorting mechanism. >> would you sort through like, the chatter phone calls

jim woolsey believes the damage was not as bad as initially thought. >> i know of nothing that pollard stole that damaged the united states at all. >> both pollard's lawyers and the obama administration say there is no connection between his release and the effort to -- >>> there's outrage over the death of cecil the lion. a u.s. dentist defend >> announcer: this national weather report sponsored by panera bread. stop by to enjoy your favorite panera salads with new clean dressings. >>> chinese power >>> chinese counterfeiters just made a powerful enemy. >> taylor swift is heading into new territory to help her fans shake off the fakes. >> the news is back this morning on "cbs this morning." in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. we put members first. thank you. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ all the goodness of milk. all the deliciousness of hershey's syrup. squeeze. stir. share. flonase allergy relief, the only otc nasal spray approved to relieve nasal congestion and itchy, w

former cia director james woolsey a former new york golf and presidential candidate george pataki urgingmakers to block the deal. >> we'll talk to the brother of jason rezaian. he's a "washington post" reporter among four americans still being held in prisons in iran. he wants to know why there is nothing the nuclear deal that addresses his brother's ordeal other other americans held in tehran. jason was literally ripped out of his home and thrown in prison and they have never been given a reason or substantial charges on that. bill: donald trump talk about his options if he's not the republican nominee. trump was asked whether he would run as a third party candidate. so many people want me to if i don't win. i'll have to see how i'm being treated by the republicans that would be a factor. what will decide this third party issue as of today? what did he say? >> reporter: he talked about this before. but this is the if you are -- -- this is the furthest he has gone. he is putting the rnc on notice. you try to rig the process and he will take a third-party bid. bill: if that would be the c

now jim woolsey and i agreed on his point four years ago was that, when you're buying opec oil, watcht of the funding gets in the hands of the enemy. and that's exactly what's going on today. nobody has blown up the oil field yet because they all have a stake in it. >> they all want the money. boone pickens, a great interview, buddy. nice interview, boone. we'll see you soon. you take care all right? >> okay. are you hokies going to have a good team? >> i think the virginia tech hokies football squad will have a better team than everyone expects. i'm at nine wins for my hokies this year boone. maybe we'll have dinner on whoever's wrong. >> well, ask me about the osu cowboys. >> i know what you're going to say. perfect season. that's what you say every year. >> i'm talking about ten wins. >> okay. okay. >> hey melissa, how's the harvard crimson looking in the football? >> i have no idea brian. you know that. >> boone pickens, budsdy i hope you get to ten wins but we'll see you before then. thanks very much boone. take care. >>> in conjunction with a washington-based energy group called

. >> he testified before our committee yesterday in combination with cia former director james woolsey about the threat of emp. and one of the reasons i called that hearing is what i believe -- nobody knows how this is going to game out. the inevitable conclusion is eventually iran will have aure in clearnuclear weapon. are you familiar that they've practiced ship launch using scud missiles? they've done that according to dr. peter vincent frey. an emp attack would be conducted by somebody like north korea or iran and conducted from a ship off our coast using a scud missile and the fact that you as the secretary of the department of energy were not even aware of the 15 recommendations, basic recommendations. things like evaluating and implementing quick fixes in the threat of an emp attack. for literally $20 million to $70 million we could protect 700 critical transformers that could help us recover from something like that. i'm highly concerned. as you, secretary of energy, not even aware of these recommendations that were made public in 2008. seven years later, we have done nothing,

. >> he testified before our committee yesterday in combination with cia former director james woolsey about the threat of emp. and one of the reasons i called that hearing is what i believe -- nobody knows how this is going to game out. the inevitable conclusion is eventually iran will have aure in clearnuclear weapon. are you familiar that they've practiced ship launch using scud missiles? they've done that according to dr. peter vincent frey. an emp attack would be conducted by somebody like north korea or iran and conducted from a ship off our coast using a scud missile and the fact that you as the secretary of the department of energy were not even aware of the 15 recommendations, basic recommendations. things like evaluating and implementing quick fixes in the threat of an emp attack. for literally $20 million to $70 million we could protect 700 critical transformers that could help us recover from something like that. i'm highly concerned. as you, secretary of energy, not even aware of these recommendations that were made public in 2008. seven years later, we have done nothing,

. >> he testified before committee yesterday with the cia former director james woolsey about the threat of emts and one of the reasons i thought i would hold the hearing is now what i believe in its disputable but no one knows how this will all game out that the inevitable conclusion is iran will have a nuclear weapon plus with a have ballistic missile technology. are you where the fact that iran has practiced ship launch using scud missiles? >> no i'm not sir. >> they have done that according to doc your peter vincent tried. an emt would be conducted like someone like north korea or iran of it would be conducted from a ship off of our coast using a scud missile and the fact that you ask the secretary of the department of energy are not even aware of the 15 recommendations, basic recommendations things like evaluating implement with fixes in the event of an emp attack and the fact that richard garwin said literally 20 to $70 million we could protect 700 critical transformers that could help us recover from something like that. i am highly concerned. as the secretary of energy not even a