and indiana did, made its state right to work. and gary b you say that's the right move for workers, why? >> absolutely, brenda, i'm surprised all 50 states haven't done this, because the facts bear out. let's look at just some of the united states when you compare right to work states to nonright to work states. they have higher gdp growth, higher wage growth. higher pay, higher productivity and higher growth. and more of the population covered by insurance. you have to scratch your head brenda, and say why isn't this the rule in every state in the country. >> brenda: david, you don't agree with that why? >> well, if you look at other facts, that being states that are right to work, like alabama, arkansas, florida, they all have unemployment rates that are way above the national average. in addition to that, a lot of those states that are right to work are also ones that are on the federal dole in returning less tax dollars back to the feds than they received. and so, you know, to say that it's the be-- i don't think matches up wi

it's already a right to work state. it's a state where workers already have a choice as to whether or not they want to join a union and management, school districts and cities, have the right to choose whether or not they want to allow public employees to have a seat at the table. if this legislation passes, school districts and cities will no longer even have a right to allow the workers to come to the table because this will completely eliminate collective bargaining. you were talking about wisconsin and indiana, this legislation is a far cry from those two states and in fact would make us the most anti-union state in the country. >> why is this happening? is this what the people want? did the people of arizona want this to happen? >> you know, in arizona every legislator has to run for office every two years, house and senate. i tell you having been on the campaign trial quite a bit over the last six years, i have not heard from a single voter in my district that they want this. that they want workers in our cities an

indiana became the 23rd right-to-work state. the reaction by hoosier republicansened up pailing what gop lawmakers are considering in arizona. the vote was 28-22, and the protesters in the galleries, and jammed outside the state house chanted shame. and then marched to lucas oil stadium home of sunday's super bowl. the governor signed the bill behind closed doors, saying this won't be a magic answer, but we'll be far better off with it. but being a right-to-work state is apparently not enough for some lawmakers, particularly those in arizona. that government is doing away with collective bargaining, but knew bills would ban all collective bargaining, including firefighters and policemen. the bill would prohibit automatic payroll deductions for union dues. all of this after the governor offered state employees the first pay raise in years in exchange for giving up certain protections. one of the groups that has been instrumental in crafting the anti-union bill with the conservative think tank, which just so happens to be a member

state. georgia. right-to-work.ke to see the same thing happen in south carolina. >> stuart, we see all kind of thing happens in positive light in south carolina. we have bridgestone making amar juror announcements and company -- major announcements. what we are trying to say the right to work atmosphere is con deucive to job creation for company expansion but it's also good for america's exporting goals. we don't want to continue to feed in the cultural war from state to state. we need to recognize the right to work state gives our country an opportunity to compete in a global economy. >> stuart: is south carolina unified on this? >> 110%. we made this from lat of things. south carolina versus clemson. you will find us unionfied. that is on the issue as it relates to right to work and the ability to attract new employees from across this country to home, the new home, south carolina. >> stuart: nicely put, sir. all right, representative tim scott, republican, south carolina, joining us from charlatan, we appreciate

under similar circumstances so if all workers in right to work states on average are making fifty three hundred dollars less public sector workers would would moderate in other words it's even worse for private so right they'd actually be doing their own even more work to dallas but the long haul i would say we were to tell an employee in any circumstance that you would must join a union is certainly not a good if you want to take advantage of the benefits of the union contract negotiation as we have got to be a part of that if you wrap this after the break have republicans lost touch with reality when it comes to the bush tax cuts more and it's big trouble coming up. we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old on to tell the truth. i confess i am a total get of friends that i love traveling hip hop music and. he was kind of a yesterday. i'm very proud of the world with his play. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything yo

for less states and there are fifty one percent more workplace injuries and deaths in right to work for less states that's what workers in indiana can look forward to now that their lawmakers and their governor struck a shift in their rights to democratize the workplace but this isn't the first time this is happened in india there was back in one nine hundred fifty seven just like today thousands of workers were marching outside the state house in indianapolis why because republicans inside passed legislation make indiana a right to work for less. then indiana was the eighteenth state to do said the governor harold hadley didn't even sign the bill he was actually run out of the building by a crowd that pushed that past the state police but absent a veto it became law anyway so how did it all work out well there was voter backlash the republicans got hammered in the election of one hundred fifty eight the next year by one nine hundred sixty the democrats have taken control of both chambers of state government and by nine hundred sixty five in indiana the right to work law was repeale

under similar circumstances so if all workers in right to work states on average are making fifty three hundred dollars less public sector workers would would moderate in other words it's even worse for private so right they'd actually be doing the even more work to do the long haul i would say we were to tell an employee in any circumstance that you would must join a union is certainly not a good if you want to take advantage of the benefits of the union contract negotiation we had better be a part of that if you read this after the break have republicans lost touch with reality when it comes to the bush tax cuts more. common. but i see. a scenario you know. there's no way to see the film on screen if you want to have sex go and have sex. means of protection can be used. between two thousand and five and two thousand and nine u.s. has spent fifteen billion dollars in the price to pay for the entire program that we are dealing with right now here in two thousand and eleven is another one hundred fifty billion dollars that's larger than many country's entire military budget of

. >> at the same time you have a caterpillar adding 1400 jobs in a right to work state like georgia, possibly nonunion jobs and we'll have to wait and see about that, but many people, many democrats will tell you that the only kind of good job is a union job. and certainly, the democrats in an election year need to cash and the clout of unions, need more union jobs in the private sector in this country in order to fund those campaigns. now and years to come. >> yeah, ben, the president wants to be a cheerleader for jobs, that's great, but only union shops. what's wrong with other american workers? >> well, the thing is, union jobs are jobs whose dues go directly to the democratic party. so of course, he's going to like unions, unions, by the way are a great things. i'm a member of three unions. >> thank you. >> and i love being in unions, i love being in my unions. but, i have to say, it's very hard on people who are not in the unions because we union people sort of soak up all the money and there's not much left for everybody else (laughter) >> ben, i could tell you as front of a un

we merged them together, the state history and education about the constitution. i think it works pretty well, and then once we suck them in with the quiz, then they have access to all the resources including a whole mini-curriculum on kansas history which a lot of states are the same way. the curriculum may be sort of thin in public schools and in resources for home schoolers and the like about your state's history. so we try to fill that gap with a pretty robust cyber civics program. i want to let you know what we're doing and encourage you to do the same. you can go to our -- the kansas

politics ourselves but we work closely with the civics commission for schools who is out there working at the state and local level on how to advance policy to advance civic education specifically. if you are not working with that organization yet, i encourage that as well. >> we have home schoolers using it, so it's something that can be used anywhere and it can be used in disk form if you cannot access the internet directly. other questions or comments? secretary brown? no. great. well thank you so much for coming and being withes today and sharing that and thank you for the work that you do in helping us do our jobs. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> [ applause ] >> i'm is secretary is of iowa and i would like to thank secretary ritchie for working on this committee. i have the pleasure of introducing the president of rock the vote. heather's direction and leadership during the past two election cycles rock the vote built new tools and refined best practice for engaging young voters setting the high voting levels. prior to rock the vote she directed young voter strategies a nonpartisan partner

part of that, keith is that arizona is already a so-called right to work state. ich means unions already have diminished power and compass night arizona. so this is more damaging to working families than in other states. >> we should mention just a we were mentioning this, the senate passed the bill about the faa that clued this slippen-in provision that restricts their right to collectively bargain. backback to arizona. it's already a right to work state. what would these measures do in terms of limited roles for unions? >> the good news is that even though unions have legally limited roles in arizona we do have some very strong unions such as police, firefighters, and teachers. and they work hard to keep those workers and those communities safe. these bills would completely eliminate their ability to engage in things like collective bargaining which ensures you have fair wages for firefighters, police officers. it ensures that you protect pensions for teachers. it ensures that those voices could come down to the capitol and lobby on behalf of the communities tha

>> guest: there are higher rates of unionization in the right to work states than there is in indiana today. we knew it would bring more jobs to our state and that was my principle motive for doing it. and already the phone is ringing and we are about to stritestrike agreement to put more hoosiers to work. >> chris: back in 2006, you opposed right to work as too divisive. and the unions say the wages will go down and work places will become more dangerous. >> guest: first of all, that is all bunk. facts be could not be more clear. safety is not affect wages and job growth are faster in the 22 right to work states than the 28 that didn't provide protection to workers. for 7 years. i never said i was opposed to right to work but succeed in the right to work. ultimately in the terrible national economy. i came to the conclusion that we needed to take this step if we were going to have the opportunity state we want to be. >> chris: governor daniels thank you for coming in and always pleasure to talk to you. growing violence against the americans in afghanistan. and back in a moment. impac

right to work state in the country which means people no longer have to join a union to get a specific job. yes, what -- question, what is wrong with unions ? >> nothing is wrong with unions. effected the right to bargain and the right to organize collectively i wouldn't have been for. it that was untouched. all itt says is the worker can decide whether or not it is worth the news and whether they would like the money themselves. >> doesn't it in a practical sense weaken the union? >> no, not necessarily. there are higher rates of unionization than there are in indiana today. it is ae matter of whether people think they are getting their money's worth, and we knew it would bring more jobs to our state. that was our principal motive for doing it. already the phone isob ringing, and we are about to strike some agreements and put a few more hoosiers to work. >> back in 2006 you opposed right to work. now as a the result of this decision to sign and make it a right to work state that the wages will go down a

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to be on the forefront of discussion for the next few months right to work versus non right to work states.

mainstream media the right wing assault on the middle class and working people continues like in indiana this month indiana became the twenty third state in the nation to pass a right to work for less law which will do more harm to working people and scott walker's anti-union agenda without strong union protections workers in indiana are likely to see their wages benefits and workplace conditions plummet americans in right to work for less states make on average five thousand dollars less than a non right to work states and also get injured or killed in the workplace fifty one percent more often but there were hundreds of thousands of people in the streets there were a few thousand and not in the same sort of national attention in indianapolis aside from the super bowl of course and then there's what's going on in my home state of michigan that's where radical governor rick snyder we has dismantled local democracy with this financial managers law snyder is taking over cities put in place unelected crony dictators to fire local elected officials break union contracts rewrite local budgets and sell off parts of the commons to transnation

the state legislature in indiana has recently -- this is a state issue -- taken up right to work which is a controversial subject as you know. governor snyder, are there any discussions in your state which is neighbors to mine concerning this type of action at the state level? >> it is under discussion. there are a number of legislators that are promoting th that. and my perspective is, i've made it clear it's not on my agenda. right to work is an issue that's a very devicive issue people feel very strongly about. as mr. walberg mentioned i'm the relentless positive action person. we have many problems in michigan that are much more pressing that i want to find common ground issues we can work together on before we get into divisive issues. and we're showing great success. we're balancing the budget. we showed tax reform. important items this year i would prioritize include the transportation package i mentioned abtd infrastructure. we have a package on public safety. we need to do a better job on that area in our state. so right to work is an issue that may have its time and place, bu

. >>> indiana is the 23rd right to work state in the u.s. and the first state to change its law in over a decade. the state legislature passed and the governor signed the controversial bill saying that workers do not have to pay union fees. . >>> the senate in washington state passed a bill last night to legalize same-sex marriage. the statehouse is expected to pass it and the governor will sign it. that would make washington the seventh state in the nation to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry. >>> in france, a presidential candidate was showered with flour wednesday. he was shocked. but did resume his speech on the french housing crisis still covered in the protester's flour. >>> a first video of the far side of the moon. a view that we never see because the moon is locked with the earth. the moon cam video shot last month shows a moon scape full of dozens craters left behind after dozens of collisions with asteroids. >>> now here is another look at the dow opens at 12,716 after gaining 83 points yesterday. the s&p up 11 points. the nas

we cannot ask of the actual entities to do more work than the scope of work states. scope of work -- we said we would work with seniors, low income, and families coming and if an entity volunteers, we cannot provide more money or change the scope of service without an amendment to the contracts. and the programmatic issues are looked at by the housing area, and they do audits and questionnaires and talk to the communities so that we make sure what is being said is being provided is actually being provided. an>> is there a reporting mechanism that shows the level of success rate based on what they proposed they were going to do, and is that on part of the rfp? >> in the rfp required there be a reporting mechanism that would say how they met the levels of service. that can be evaluated in numbers

well there are a lot of regional proxies the united states could work through to pursue a diplomatic track instead what the united states has done and president obama has done is he's been forced into. one more one and one sanctions regime after another one more the next thing they want to do is sanction the telecommunications industry which we with according to proponents those who are lobbying for these that is in washington cause catastrophic effects on the iranian economy so what they've been forced to do is basically attack and wage economic warfare and terror on the iranian middle and working class sanctions that are doing nothing to stop iran's nuclear program and what and the diplomatic track is the only answer the p five plus one an initiative was about to take place turkey taking the lead right before this assassination inside iran of the scientists that we're talking about so clearly israel wanted to foil these negotiations israel will do whatever it takes to foil negotiations it's the same thing they've done with the palestinians for decades and and this is the danger ever

you remember in 2010 working together, we enacted a 3% performance bonus for state employees, contingent upon them afrp chooefing a specific amount of savings in their agencies by the end of the year. it worked. their great efforts saved taxpayers over $90 million after the bonus payment was made. that's good government. so, i'm asking you to do that again this year. i proposed another 3% one time bonus for the state employees in december of 2012. contingent upon a specific amount of savings being achieved and employees individually meeting specific performance measures on the performance reviews. this will again reward good performance. last summer, we all collectively held our breaths as we watched the debt limit fight in washington. today, we face a volatile euro and international unrest. i would say to you that uncertainty for us is now the new certainty. while we cannot control what congress or what europe do, we must prepare as well as possible here in virginia for the future changes that are certain to come. so that's what i try to do in the introduced budget. the budget i propose

that's exactly what all this hard work is for, to allow our schools as well as our state and local governments to work better for the people we serve. [ applause ] >> tonight, i want to thank the many teachers and public. [ applause ] >> we're glad wisconsin avoided the massive layoffses of government employee experienced in other states. now, looking ahead, there is much more to be done to improve our education system. no skill is as fundamental to student achievement as the ability to read. something profound happens when a student passes from third grade to fourth grade. from kindergarten to third grade, students spend the bulk of their time learning to read. but by fourth grade, our kids must be equipped with proficient reading skills so they're no longer learning to read, but reading to learn. [ shouting ] >> that's why i was pleased to be joined by tony evers to put together a read to leave task force, which was a diverse group of educators, reading specialists, parents and others from across the state to create a plan for improving the reading skills of our students. in addition to than

right to work statethe country which means that people no longer have to join the union to get a specific job. question -- what is wrong with unions? >> nothing is wrong with unions. if that measure affected the right to bargain, the right to organize collectively, i wouldn't have been for it. all it says is the worker can decide whether or not they would have that money themselves. >> chris: doesn't that neck necessarily over the long run, weaken unions? >> no, not necessarily. there are higher rates of unionization there are in indiana today. it's really whether people think they are getting their money's worth. it's bringing more jobs to the state. already the phone is ringing and we are about to strike some agreements i think for a few more to work. >> chris: back in 2006, you said that you oppose right to work as in your words as too divisive. now as a result of this decision to make a right to work state, that wages will go down and work places will become more dangerous? >> first of all, that is a

why states of dine doin have the right to work and you have a flexibility already .uestion is how good is management in exercising that flexibility and what doesn't write is the military and seven years after a promotion you are out. >> what about flexibility. you understand how capitalism needs to be flexible in order to get better. doesn't this limit flexibility? >> no, it does the opposite. this is what we embrace. we look at it from the employees point of view. we feel like it is in for life and with this, they are going to be forced to think if they are going to be moving on. if you move the employee that is human capitol to a higher valued work, they will do a better job. anything like this that is flexible, we have to embrace. >> i don't want to be a naysayer. what if it works in one place, the government will step in and say everybody has to do it now. >> yeah, it is a one-size fits all solution. >> i am perplexed why john sees this as a tool of flexibility. it is high performing company, apple. they have a designer named johnnie iv. you tell him after four-s