. >> sure, it is young people, for the most part, working there younger people. not tea parties but a lot of people in their 20's and 30's, you get people that age, and they have fun. but this was a lot of hard work. >> hard work, a lot of hard work, a lot of all nighters be i the writers. >> so tell me he you got to know these artists. >> for instance, david bowie. >> i met him at a party. he was going to do a video and he need people with unusual faces and he said hey do you want toe be in my video, and i said sure. and then later in the party, and he said why didn't you tell me you played the guitar, you can be the guitar player. >> i was like okay. >> you were with holland oaks for how long? >> six years. >> and you tours with them. >> all over the world, yeah. >> what was that like. >> fabulous. when i fist started. it was sort of in a slump, and then they had a couple of years, and then i had got fire hired i was getting 200-dollar as week we were playing bars. but then things were up and down, you know, showbiz. but then lucky for me i happened to hit there in a period where they produced great music and