i watched her ted talk when she was head of the world food programme. and maybe three years ago. and it is stunning, and her knowledge of the food situation and her focus on places like north korea and the need to get nutrients to infants quickly so they are not permanently damaged. that cries aloud for implementation in north korea and i'm now head of our chairman of the pacific century institute and i was galvanized by that and we're going to try and do something about that and get other people involved because that kind of gesture can build trust where there is no trust now. >> governor, take us inside the oval office. when president park came to the white house and sat with president obama, what do you think he would say to her? what is it, how does the united states administration incentivize both side in korea to try to both beyond where we are now? the truth is really only they can. would that be your sense, that actually the two main actors really who can shift things are on the peninsula? >> you know, it's, i'm going to go back to, you're putting into a real-life situati