intellectual property in trade secrets. >> i agree with your statement there and thank you for that. is china unique in its use as a world trade organizationmber of its intelligence units to steal -- on behalf of the companies they are trying to benefit inside china. >> i can speak with confidence to the challenge posed by china. i'd have to take back your question as to whether there are others that impose a similar threat. >> thank you. that's concerning. but mr. estevez, it is published a report that revealed some information regarding a case steal, now owned by cleveland cliffs. it's stated, quote, if a k steel's grain-oriented -- were to close, the united states would lack the ability to transform any -- does this assessment sound accurate? >> i would have to go back and look at that. but i would be happy to get into a detailed discussion on those. >> your organization publishes a lot of these reports. i would not expect for you to know all of them. this is work that -- -- it -- the particular sectors that are vulnerable. . and china, when they use these powers, and exploit their membership status in the wto, they are shaping market a