processor to steal data and then use thatle s information to withdraw large amounts of cash from atms worldwis henderson is the global managing partner with ibm xforce red a team of hackers who help companies uncover vulnerabilities in their own security systems. >> thanks for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> is this a new vulnerability we're heariut? what do you make of this warning from the fbi? >> so at its core, the fbi is addressing a lack of care and feedingn the at world. if you think about all of the things that banks t have had secure and have been focusing on such as networks, applications and any number of, thin they've -- they've been ignoring the atm security posture for some time. they've been treating it like a mac box and those -- that ignoring has come home to roost, and the criminals are now targeting atms because they're eennerable and they haven't tested. >> so is a hakim nenck imminent what kind of banks are vulnerable, the j.p. morgans or ler banks? >> you have to remember at its core. let's take a step back and put ourselves in the shoes of a criminal.