in fact, many family farms and ranches that have been impacted by the epa's waters of use, the wotus rule that store enough and senator ernst have both identified earlier, as you may recall from our meeting in office, the small business administration office of advocacy sent a letter which i i would like to, mr. chairman, submit for the record today. they sent this letter october first 2014 to the epa administrator gina mccarthy in major to major general john peabody of the army corps of engineers resizing the trend and romance impact on small business. and, in fact, actually recommended the entire rule the withdrawn. now, that was apparently ignored, the rule continued forward. i'd like to know if you are confirmed as the administrator of the sba would you be willing to write a similar letter recommending this rule be withdrawn once again and reminding our new administrator of the epa of the damage it has done to small businesses, farmers and ranchers? >> thank you very much for the question. i would look very forward to working with you and the other senators, senator ernst and oth

he said of all the overregulations, the one that scared us most was wotus, the water bill.ot of people, a lot of libaro andrade also would prefer to -- a lot of liberals would prefer to take that paraand give it to the states. as you and i discussed in your department that you're going to be responsible for, the office of advocacy. now, that office is where it's an independent office and its purpose so salve to advocate on behalf of small businesses to other agencies and weigh in on their rule making. during the last administration, the office has been pretty much ignored so you're going to have to start from a zero base. have you given a lot of thought to how you're going to have this office of advocacy there available for people it was designed for originally? >> thank you very much. if i have the privilege of being confirmed, i would really like to strengthen that offers because i've always been a defender of the little guy. and we need someone who's going to go to bat for our small businesses and i'm just the girl to do that. >> why do you think it wasn't done before? w

and the corps of engineers completed on the wotus rule and believed it would have significant economic impact on small business. with this prove it act there were a number of organizations that supported it. the nfib, the chamber and women impacting public policy, all of those organizations supported it. can i get a commitment from you to work with me on this legislation and help implement it especially given the desire by our president to make sure we are reducing regulatory reform especially on small businesses? ms. mcmahon: senator, thank you very much. i did enjoy our meeting. when you talked to me about there legislation i thought wow, isn't that just a really common sense thing. i think we need more common sense in government. if you have two says that can't agree you have a referee, a third party. i liked what you were telling me about the bill that it would mick the agencies work together before it had to become like a public event and help with drafting legislation. so i think it is a very good piece of legislation and i would like to learn more about it and look forward to wo