everything from monument to golden gate park to market street, other works in the collection, from the wpa era, the quite tower, the works from the george washington high school. we have the contemporary education, where they depict some of the vocational arts that were taught at george washington high school. what is interesting is the artist's and corp. of some of the -- incorporation of some of the architectural elements. they used the speaker from the p a system as part of the design. on the opposite side of the library, we have a large fresco which depicts the academic subjects that were taught at the time. it serves as a foil to the other fresco in the library, we have academic subjects on one side, vocational subjects on the other, and result is the concept of a well-rounded education. additionally, what we plan to do is the academy of hospitality and tourism will be part of, so the students can share with other students, faculty, the neighborhood, and others to come by and what to look to the artwork we have. >> by working with the students, we hope to raise awareness of the collec

we need a new wpa. >> i don't understand that, congressman. i know you are consistent. but i think you are wrong. we have tolls and fees and state surtaxes that were meant for highway construction and bridge construction and supposedly in a lock box for that purpose . we have had better than a dozen earmarks, pardon me for using that word. for construction . now we say another infrastructure program. congressman, we mede to stop people from coming up with initiatives. >> we need top 10 corporations to pay their taxesment wouldn't that be nice . stop off shore jobs and trade agreement to send millions was jobs. >> can you blame them, congressman. >> absolutely. i am for america, who are they for? >> they see little impous seeing the shenagins . you are pushed if you want to expand to south carolina, a nonunion state. what is in their about to repatriot that money if they are penalize. >> repatriot. means, america first and respect the country that gave you your birth. we are seeing corporations taking our jobs out. where is there loyalty? we ought to make sure they pay t

it wasn't wpa. it was followed by the detroit bail out. it saved tons of jobs. it was followed by a nine-month, a year fight on the health care reform. the american people, whether right or wrong, they are like we have had enough. it's not going to work. >> i think you are right. people certainly are not stupid. they are smarter than people in washington, d.c. and congress, most of them. what do we do? what do the republicans do about their dilemma? they have to campaign against barack obama saying we can do better. this is not good enough. we can do better. you are sitting there thinking, this guy or this woman is saying we can do better and yet they don't want to repeal the bush tax cuts. what are they talking about. >> thank you. talking about the wealthy and the dilemma we are in. front page of the new york times, the bloomberg story and mubarak. i'm looking at this. it's a woman buying a $1500 pair of shoes. even with the economy in a funk and many americans pulling back ond spending, the rich

you need, in my view, a wpa, civilian conservation corp. exempting payroll taxes, you need something to do with housing. you have to help distressed home owners. a lot of things that need to be done that constitute a jobs program, but given this deal, it's going to be terribly difficult, if not impossible, to muster the political will, the political courage, the votes necessary to get a jobs bill through. >> mark zandi, how do you see this deficit reduction package affecting the economy and specifically the job market? >> well, i think it was a good deal. i think it's not a solution to our long-term fiscal problems, we need some tax revenue to solve our problems, but it's a good step in the right direction. when we started debating this we needed $4 trillion in deficit reduction, $2 trillion would be spending cuts, $1 trillion would be tax revenue and another trillion in lower interest payments on the debt. this deal got us the $2 trillion in spending cuts and interest savings as well, so we're part of the way there, and i think that's very

the lower walls was actually billed as part of the wpa. the upper wall was built in 1991-'92. this is a concrete wall and it has rocked going through the wall that extends the distance of 80 feet beyond the wall. the next earthquake occurs, the wall is designed to resist and the movement of the sand and allowed it to move down hill. this is a classic example of the creek and degree flow and exists all the way the area. we might see the other evidence. we have done nothing to improve the quality and the strength of the dam. >> one of the things that has come up in the policy issue over and over is that people are concerned that construction of a new building or the upper story might exacerbate these kinds of soil problems. we have extra review where we might have extra problems. it does that construction have an impact? it is a good idea to come to a peer review or a geotechnical review process as part of determining. >> in january of this year, the california building code requires almost all of san francisco that we get geologist and a geotechnical engineer. it was a state bu

. >> again, another example of the wpa. the streets, they wanted to get to the top of the hill, said the duties beautiful walls and stairways. they are doing well. >> all of these hillsides have catalyzed the design and construction of the interesting foundations and sub framing. >> up there, you'll find quite often, because it is rock, they have dug holes, filled it with concrete, put pulls up, and built their buildings. they have been there actually now 67 years. >> some of these are significant earthquake hazard? >> many of them, because they're not properly braced, because the foundations are not deep enough. the consequences could be significant during an earthquake. >> the tunnel opened that whole section up to development. did that lead to park side? >> west portal is right here. it this slope. westport open up this whole area down here, with the reservoir. the tunnel was built and two different ways. one of them was cut and cover, the other was a tunneling machine. as they came close to the side of the hill, they du

. >> again, another example of the wpa. the streets, they wanted to get to the top of the hill, said the duties beautiful walls and stairways. they are doing well. >> all of these hillsides have catalyzed the design and construction of the interesting foundations and sub framing. >> up there, you'll find quite >> up there, you'll find quite often, because it is rock, they

who gave your uncle a job in the wpa? roosevelt. who got your granddaddy an old age pension? roosevelt. all right, children, now, who made you? [laughter] after a moment of silence, one little boy asserts stoutly, god. whereupon a barefoot boy leaps up in the back row and yells, throw that sorry republican out of here. [laughter] now, the whole idea of ejecting conservatives from the democratic party was very much out of character for roosevelt. because he'd always been a charmer who showered people with his personal mag anytism and charisma -- magnetism and charisma, not with his bile. he was known for cajoling and persuading people of both parties to support his legislation. he prided himself on knowing how to work with friends and adversaries alike. while he was governor of new york, he once explained that he had to work with people he neither liked, nor trusted. but it was necessary to do so in order to reach his ultimate goal. roosevelt was an expert in tacking with the wind. as president he lavished his talents for flattery, wheedling, horse trading, even his talent for

. >> i think that's a great idea, you know, they rejected direct hiring, wpa-type programs at the beginning, for very good reasons, but they should lay down a marker that they're going to do what it takes to propose big, bold ideas. the american associate of civil engineers issued a report that said if we don't fix or infrastructure, it's going to cost hundreds of billions in productivity over the years, because a great nation must have a great infrastructure, but they have to stop talking about its, quote infrastructure. it doesn't mean anything to people. it should be we want to put people back to work rebuilding this country. the other side doesn't. frame the issue squarely. >> why do we have a penn station in new york fit for rats to go on, really a dump. the ugliest train station in the world, probably, and was once penn station, now it's a dump. we have the l.a. airport, which is the ugliest oldest airport in the world i think compared to south africa's airport. you go to europe they go 300 miles an hour on trains, we go 50 miles an hour. has anybody done a comparison of how we live c

number two, have a wpa, a civilian conservation core for long-term unemployed. we've got to get them back to work. >> he says the government should spend billions to renew the nation's infrastructure. the president will outline his jobs plan after labor day. >> the police stand off that affected thousands of commuters yesterday ended this afternoon with a suspect, dead, police say the 38-year-old peter james thomas was dead when they entered his hotel room. his girlfriend is safe now, being questioned by police. and carolyn tyler joins us live. the assumption is that he took his life. have police confirmed that? >> no. we can assume that, law enforcement says we have to wait for the coroner to determine that. we did learn today that peter james thomas was wanted on a $70,000 outstanding warrant here in marin county on burglary, weapons and drug charges. and that is in addition to being a suspect in a shop lifting and assault case in san rafael on sunday. you know that incident prompted detectives to come to the extended stay deluxe hotel yesterday, led him to ba

. >> not only do they know it, but there are some things we tried bev that worked, the wpa, and the civilian conservation corps, we have so many long-term unemployed people sitting on their hands. wouldn't it be better if they were working for the public working on things we all need. we don't need a complicated public/private partnership. >> he may not be watching the show. i don't know what he watches or listens to, but bill richardson, does he listen to guys like you? does he listen to bill clinton? they're saying this, i assume. >> i was at his births day party, and we talked briefly. he knows the severity of the situation. all i'm saying, chris, is let's not panic. let's do it right. let's have a jobs plan that makes sense, that involves a private sector, infrastructure. i'm with what everyone is saying. all i'm saying is let's do it right. he needs new creative ideas and listen to ordinary people out in the midwest about how to do this. >> all i'm saying is every time a job opens in a big city, the line goes around the block of able -- another old phrase-able-bodied men and women who w

we need a new wpa. >> i don't understand that, congressman. i know you are consistent. are wrong. we have tolls and fees and state surtaxes that were meant for highway construction and bridge construction and supposedly in a lock box for that purpose . we have had better than a dozen earmarks, pardon me for using that word. for construction . now we say another infrastructure program. congressman, we mede to stop people from coming up with initiatives. >> we need top 10 corporations to pay their taxesment wouldn't that be nice . stop off shore jobs and trade agreement to send millions was jobs. >> can you blame them, congressman. >> absolutely. i am for america, who are they for? >> they see little impous seeing the shenagins . you are pushed if you want to expand to south carolina, a nonunion state. what is in their about to repatriot that money if they are penalize. >> repatriot. means, america first and respect the country that gave you your birth. we are seeing corporations taking our jobs out. where is there loyalty? we ought to make sure they pay their taxes. >> w

i mean, i think we need a wpa style jobs program in america.need the works progress authority, we need something like that, a direct job creation from the government. and i think, you know, building trails, working on our nation's parks, doing things like this would be very, very good. we also need a multi-year surface transportation bill. that would go a long way. and i also think we've got to create -- i'm okay with creating some incentives to retrofit some of these old, windy buildings so we can bet our carpenters and construction workers back in there helping to build a green economy. i think there are a number of things. in addition to the infrastructure bank and the payroll thing that we really must do. the problem is is businesses won't hire because the people don't have any money, on is they' -- so they're not going to be able to be customers, and businesses won't be able to add staff if they're not in line to buy from them. >> and we have outsourced so much in this country, and the bottom line is disposable income is not there. i hope

hurricanes to hit the new york area, there have not been many, the works progress administration, the wpaal during the hurricane that hit long island. >> in three days, the workers have been shifted to storm duty. manpower turning from regular public improvements and services into the breech in time of dire needs. where tracks were mentd to carry trains, and thousands of workers came by rail. in recent times in recent years -- >> i have been working on my news reel voice but cannot do that well. the great tasks of reconstruction. at a deeper level, the devastation of disaster one of the foundations of civilization. it just doesn't bind citizens of a state to that state, it binds people in the united states to other people in the united states. and paul's comments are less about the role of government than what each of us owe each other. joining me now is maggi haguerman of politico. this is par for the course for ron paul. when the tape came in, i was glad we had a chance to play it, because what i think you see in the republican field, and tell me if you agree or not, everybody wants to

recreate wpa. civilian conservation corp programs. amend bankruptcy laws for mortgages.ax incentive for employees. these are concrete steps toward immediate, immediate relief of paying for some millions of americans. we are talking about people that will even run out and some have run out of their unemployment insurance. >> yeah. this is an actual crisis. but can you be sure the republicans will say, just say no. they have said no to everything else. they will say no to everything the president proposes. p is better he propose something bold and large enough to do the job and even if the republicans say no, if american people know that the president is fighting for them, it is possible to mobilize and energize people and organize people around a real jobs program. even if the president can't get it through congress immediately, that mobilization, that energizing of the public will be very, very important. even if it takes him all the way through the election, al, he's got do it because that's the essence of leadership and the public needs it. >> the president is down in

who's old enough to walk down a street and a sidewalk and see a bronze plaque on the sidewalk from the wpa, something that fdr did in the 1930s, it's still there. it's a win for both parties, it's a win for the american people, it's an immediate things that can be done and it's an immediate thing that has to be done. and even people like michele bachmann running for president, complaining about spending, she's been asking for a $300 million bridge in minnesota. it's not that people don't recognize that infrastructure is kmus crucial to continuing productivity. >> how do you feel obama is handling this crisis, when you look at years past and other presidents? >> i think that this crisis is unprecedented in a way that the debt, particularly the debt has built up a percentage of our gdp, i think he's inherited, he laz has inherited a bad situation. but you can't make someone into something they're not. this guy is not a cheerleader, he's cerebral, he's intellect l intellectual. what he's got to worry about that the president is a leadership -- he's trying, he's thinking about it, he's working

>i would like them to start some wpa programs, but i hear everybody blaming the president. at first they called him a dictator and names like that. now they want him to get out and be a dictator when there is nothing he can do without the congress -- nothing. pass the laws and he signed them into law. up until then he can do nothing. they are just against everything that he has tried to do. that he has tried to do. i hear that his election will be in jeopardy because of the economy is in the tank because of the republicans. not because of the president. not because of the president. it amazes me how people to think. host: here are some facebook comments we are getting as continue the conversation on facebook as well. mr. jenkins says they should let it collapse? you can participate as well and continue this conversation on our facebook page. facebook.com/cspan. this is one of the few cases when we don't put the hyphen. now from redding, pennsylvania on the line. caller: i have feelings on what can be done to help the economy. i wish they would get out of the way. the execut

they call the wpa back then. there is something to be said about working to get a paycheck. there are too many people that are third, fourth generation on welfare, and not really because of their own fault, but now they do not know how to get a job. they do not know how to work. and there is a satisfaction of getting a paycheck. way back in the 1960's when a president retired, he did not get the kind of money that he is. our congressmen did not get the paychecks and benefits that they get. would we have as many running for congress if they did not get the benefits, lifetime benefits? no one gets lifetime benefits anymore. host: we had an earlier caller that suggested we might do a program to determine just what members of congress receive in terms of salary, benefits. the gym, travel expenses, and the like. guest: they are very well taken care of, no denying it. we heard back when we were having the debate over obamacare, why don't they pass through the same type of health care for us that they get? it is obamacare so good, why don't they go on it themselves? there is no den

the rest of the world and use it to rebuild our roads and bridges and ports and airports to create a wpaonservation and do all kinds of things to get people back into jobs. that is not the problem. the problem is political will. >> here's what the columnist wrote in an article entitled with holener chief. the politician who came across as a redeemer is now in need of redemption himself. faced with a country in reinvention, obama seems at a loss. do you agree? >> well, look. i am a great fan of president obama and i supported him, but i do think that right now by continuing to lead the country to think this is a deficit and debt crisis, agreeing with the republicans and not standing up as any president should right now when the economy is dead in the water, we are losing jobs and a larger percentage of the adult population is really looking for work on, out of work in terms of jobs than we have seen in 30 years, the president needs to stand there and say this is my jobs package. my jobs idea, my set of initiativ initiatives. we get people back to work. i will fight for this through the el

through right now more government spending on infrastructure and more government spending like the wpa program to mitigate mortgages, to give people the opportunity to declare bankruptcy on their home mortgages so that they have an opportunity to have more bargaining leverage with lenders, with banks. randi, the problem is, a lot of people in the white house are saying the opposite to the president. they're saying don't do this because the republicans will never go along. it will look like an empty gesture. it's not going to change anything. we're getting into the election year. to me, that is fatalism. that's resignation. that's saying there's no possibility of leadership, no possibility of leading the charge on a fight and mobilizing and energizing the country around something that must be done. >> robert reich, always appreciate your time, mr. secretary. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> when rick perry announced his candidacy over the weekend, it changed the whole dynamic of the gop presidential race. mitt romney's reaction next in our political ticker. you're gonna look so ha

but always when we grow up, a will barrow was known as a hoover-buggy because of a wpa using the wheel barrow to haul stuff around, it was known as a hoover-buggy and hoover was out of office four years and it was always known as the hoover depression. host: all right, james. so let's get into modern history and let us talk about the trip the president is taking this week. on the road to economic or political recover? caller: i think it is both. he wants to talk about -- he's got some program, i don't know what, and he wants to tell that. but he will also politick while he is there too. it will have a segment of both of them in there. host: we will leave it there. james in lakeland, forward. john harwood writes in "the new york times" this morning -- cannon falls, minnesota, the first stop in his road trip. on the road to economic recovery or political recover? cleveland, mississippi. on our line for democrats. lucinda, you are on "washington journal." caller: good morning, thank you. i would like to say -- about when do we stop blaming bush. when the president took office, he was give

at every level for every opportunity whether it's the new innovation, just plain old jobs like the wpatrouble. our unemployment is at depression levels now. this is why we are speaking up. >> all right. congresswoman maxine waters, the tour continues today in atlanta, then miami and los angeles. keep up the good work out there. >> we think there will be thousands out here in atlanta technical college just like we have seen all over the country where we have been operating. we encourage people to come. come and try to get this opportunity. we are doing everything we can. >> atlanta technical college today. congresswoman, thank you so much for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. andrea mitchell, thanks to you. what do you have coming up at 1:00 today? >> i'm going on jury duty. savannah guthrie is my great colleague and friend. we have john lewis and howard dean and wes moore, joe klein. it's going to be a great show. >> i think that would be a great reality show, andrea mitchell on jury duty. good luck out there. thanks so much. >>> coming up, police stop a high school bomb pl

and when we when wewpa we are talking -- when we talk about wpa we are talking about public works, bridges and streets and water systems. i believe the president will have that in his package. we support that. we have been saying for a long time, and included in legislation one of the many pieces introduced by this black caucus that we want infrastructure jobs because jobs, of course, will help to strengthen this economy. people spend money when they have jobs. too much talk about green jobs. where are they? we have not put the money into the training. we have not helped to support the investment in the factories that will produce the solar panels and other alternatives to the energy system that we have. i and others are focused on bringing the jobs offshore that have been set off shore to third world markets for cheap labor -- you call bank of america, the loan litigation department, you are talking to somebody in india. we want those jobs in those call centers and all of those jobs that have been exported back home. [applause] we want to make it too expensive for american businesses to k

what i was getting at is how about bringing back something from the roosevelt era like the ccc and the wpa? guest: first of all, again think the private sector can do most things better than the government. that is number one. number two, it would take the creation of a huge government bureaucracy to manage debt. number three, it would be slow getting up and running. and there are things that i think if i was doing a jobs bill -- i will give you a good example. we have to programs -- two programs. we hired mostly young people for one or two-year stints for those programs. they provide an incredibly important service. now, we could hire in that program almost 60,000 young people. by the way, high school graduates are the single worst demographic when it comes to unemployment. 60,000 young people, $900 million. if we'd least that money -- we released that money, those young people would be on the job by december 1. earning money, providing a service. that is a government program that exists already. it could be used very quickly. and another thing that we could do quickly is fha, fannie mae

what i was getting at is how about bringing back something from the roosevelt era like the ccc and the wpa? guest: first of all, again think the private sector can do most things better than the government. that is number one. number two, iwould take the creation of a huge government bureaucracy to manage debt. number three, it would be slow getting up and running. and there are things that i think if i was doing a jobs bill -- i will give you a good example. we have to programs -- two programs. we hired mostly young people for one or two-year stints for those programs. they provide an incredibly important service. now, we could hire in that program almost 60,000 young people. by the way, high school graduates are the single worst demographic when it comes to unemployment. 60,000 young people, $900 million. if we'd least that money -- we released that money, those young people would be on the job by december 1. earning money, providing a service. that is a government program that exists already. it could be used very quickly. and another thing that we could do quickly is fha, fannie mae an

host: clyde, are you talking about something similar to the wpa program that president roosevelt putogether? caller: no, no. if you're not spending that money, don't let the government handle anything. i do not know of any time the government has taken over anything and made it profitable and worthwhile. host: we will lose their grip of "financial tens" has is one of its editorials this morning, if obama is challenged. mr. obama still has affordable will assets. he is an impressive man and voters like him. that is the editorial from the "financial times." on online for democrats, another john. caller: if anyone has followed this for the past three years, as they know the big three rating agencies made a terrible error of one of the toxic cbo's overseas during the housing bubble. they were forced to curtail as long as they could until, let's say, when the rating agencies finally level of. now you have a new rating agency in china that has downgraded us from a + to a. the big three were forced to downgrade as a, because china is our fiercest competitor. that in turn will probably take

yesterday coming into manhattan, you come across the bridge, completed with wpa workers, funds.try that the focus is no longer on the collective american good. it's on individual, party ideology and it separates the good from what ought to be done from the reality of our politics today. jobs is critical. >> listen, jobs are critical. and the thing is, you go to china, you immediately see china today is where we were when we were building these projects. they're preparing for the 21st century, predominance in the 21st century. you go to singapore. mika's father came back from singapore. the infrastructure there is absolutely remarkable. investing in infrastructure, that's not going to damage us as far as the debt goes. structurally over the next 30, 40 years, that's not the challenge. the challenge comes in a lot of other areas. you're right, we have got to re-invest in roads and bridges and our trains and our power grid. all of these things. there are arteries of commerce -- >> the president tried to put the focus on jobs yesterday after months of negotiations and political rhet

take a page out of fdr and go back to the wpa and rebuild america's infrastructure and rebuild our roadsay where is the money coming from? if the fed can't take money and park at the fed and gain interest the government hat ability to spend money into circulation, just as the fed does, and create the millions of jobs that are needed. we need to regain our position in technology. we should have a works green administration which would take wind and solar micro technologies like they are working on at nasa and be able to, with the private sector, take the design and engineering at nasa, then go for the manufacturing distribution and installation of maintenance, tens of millions of wind and solar micro technologies could be developed. and for placement in homes. we don't have a lack of need here. we have a lack of vision and the white house has to look at it from a perspective that is from sea to shining sea, not how do you move jobs out of the country any more and that is why i raise this issue. i'm hopeful the president is going to come forward on labor day with a plan to get america back

and when we when wewpa we are talking -- when we talk about wpa we are talking about public works, bridgeseets and water systems. i believe the president will have that in his package. we support that. we have been saying for a long time, and included in legislation one of the many pieces introduced by this black caucus that we want infrastructure jobs because jobs, of course, will help to strengthen this economy. people spend money when they have jobs. too much talk about green jobs. where are they? we have not put the money into the training. we have not helped to support the investment in the factories that will produce the solar panels and other alternatives to the energy system that we have. i and others are focused on bringing the jobs offshore that have been set off shore to third world markets for cheap labor -- you call bank of america, the loan litigation department, you are talking to somebody in india. we want those jobs in those call centers and all of those jobs that have been exported back home. [applause] we want to make it too expensive for american businesses to keep expo

and when we when wewpa we are talking -- when we talk about wpa we are talking about public works, bridges and streets and water systems. i believe the president will have that in his package. we support that. we have been saying for a long time, and included in legislation one of the many pieces introduced by this black caucus that we want infrastructure jobs because jobs, of course, will help to strengthen this economy. people spend money when they have jobs. too much talk about green jobs. where are they? we have not put the money into the training. we have not helped to support the investment in the factories that will produce the solar panels and other alternatives to the energy system that we have. i and others are focused on bringing the jobs offshore that have been set off shore to third world markets for cheap labor -- you call bank of america, the loan litigation department, you are talking to somebody in india. we want those jobs in those call centers and all of those jobs that have been exported back home. [applause] we want to make it too expensive for american businesses to k

unless the president begins to espouse traditional democratic values unless he lays out specific wpa-like projects to put people back to work unless he leads the attack on the opposition instead of pleading for the base to do it, i will not vote at all. dixon, illinois, hi, chris. how close was the president to dixon, illinois? >> caller: i don't know. sarah palin was here the other day. >> host: oh, was she? >> caller: yes. >> host: you're in the south, you're in the way south? >> caller: no, midwest. northern portion. >> host: northern portion of illinois, okay. >> caller: i believe the president's hands are tied. the republicans are going to do whatever they can to taint the economy just to make it harder for him. but he is the only one that's been talking about the middle class, seniors and the poor. when have you heard the republicans worrying about them? never. thank you. >> host: thank you, chris. we have a tweet, president obama 61 vacation days, president bush at this point 194 vacation days. and republicans are now angry is what spooney35 tweets in. cindy republican does not hav

>i would like them to start some wpa programs, but i hear everybody blaming the president. at first they called him a dictator and names like that. now they want him to get out and be a dictator when there is nothing he can do without the congress -- nothing. pass the laws and he signed them into law. up until then he can do notng. they are just ainstverything that he has tried to do. that he has tried to do. i hear that his election will be in jeopardy because of the economy is in the tank because of the republicans. not because of the president. not because of the president. it amazes me how people to think. host: here are some facebook comments we are getting as continue the conversation on facebook as well. mr. jenkins says they should let it collapse? you can participate as well and continue this conversation on our facebook page. facebook.com/cspan. this is one of the few cases when we don't put the hyphen. now from redding, pennsylvania on the line. caller: i have feelings on what can be done to help the economy. i wish they would get out of the way. the executive an

what i was getting at is how about bringing back something from the roosevelt eraike the ccc and the wpaf all, again think the private sector can do most things better than the government. that i number one. number two, it would take the creation of a huge government bureaucracy to manage debt. number three, it would be slow getting up and running. and there are things that i think if i was doing a jobs bill -- i will give you a good example. we have to programs -- two programs. we hired mostly young people for one or two-year stints for those programs. they provide an incredibly important service. now, we could hire in that program almost 60,000 young people. by the way, high school graduates are the single worst demographic whent comes to unemployment. 60,000 young people, $900 million. if we'd least that money -- we released that money, those young people would be on the job by december 1. earning money, providing a service. that is a government program that exists already. it could be used very quickly. and another thing that we could do quickly is fha, fannie mae and frede mac own 3