and mark wright thompson joins us now, senior writer for espn.ng to you both. congratulations on this book. it is taunting and chilling. this barn set i guess 23 miles or so from where you grew up in mississippi. of course, you did not know the significance of it, as you say, the guy who lives there did not know the significance of it, what started you on this journey? how did you learn of this barn? >> it was during the pandemic and some guy that works for the emmett till interpreter city asked me if you have ever been to the barn. i said, what barn, he said, we need to take a ride. i went over there and found-- i don't know if you guys have been to memory sites in the world, but i found that it felt like a vessel that carried some sort of existential truth about our past, our present, and it was so haunting and menacing, just sitting there unmarked, i got obsessed with it and started doing this. before, it was a magazine assignment or a book it was something personal, if i am going to live in this place, i need to know about. >> people built we