. >> wronk you want to put his parents in the rose garden. >> i remember -- we were talking about it boy, i don't know what happened here. i'm glad this kid is getting home, but i bet this is really messy. you could just tell when he was talking about what the kid did for the afghan people. he didn't know anything about the story. i hadn't even read the hastings story, but you know what's going to be messy? i had a heated debate with chuck todd. it's hard for any of us civilians that haven't been on the battlefield to judge any kid and any mental state at a time of war. let the military do that. let the peers do that. i they the military should judge him. looks leak they are going to judge him. all the evidence is i think that he is a deserter. none of us know if we would crack under those horrible, horrible circumstances. the father, though -- this goes to, again, why did the president have the father in the rose garden? not because of all the things he did, the overtures to the taliban. as i pointed out before, if my son is in captivity for five years, i'm going to, you know -- i'm