speaker, can the prime minister tell us wther he is with his flagship policy on forestry. >> the short answer to that is no. [laughter] >> it is as i've said before in this house, it is a consultation that was put forward. we've had -- we've had a range of interesting responses to this consultation. but i think what is impornt is that we should be making sure whatever happens we increase access to our forests. we increase biodiversity and we don't make the mistake -- and we don't make the mistake that was madender the last government where they sold forests with no access rights at all. >> dave miliband. >> i mean, even he must appreciate the irony. the guy who made the tree, the symbol of the conservative party, flogging them off up and down this country. now, he says they're consulting -- he said they're consulting on this policy. they're actually consulting on how to flog off the forests whether to flog off the forests. . >> you put forward some proposals and you listen to the answer. and then you make a decision. i know it's a totally alien concept but what's so complikd about that