. >> chaos in wuhan. what did the chinese hide? >> the government of wuhan was saying shut up. be quiet about this. >> the virus was silently moving through the population. >> the men who hid the truth. >> they made it much worse for the chinese people. they contributed to a pandemic that swept the globe. >> one man who told the truth. >> you know, this could be me. >> whistles for a whistle-blower. rage from a devastated people. >> outpouring of grief. >> china's furious battle to stop the killer covid. >> they used brutal measures. no question about it. >> a country and a leader desperate to hold off to newfound global stature. >> the greatest threat to their control since the tiananmen square uprising. >> words of praise -- >> i spoke with president xi and they're working very, very hard. >> -- turned to darker rhetoric. >> you should ask china. china was very secretive, very, very secretive. >> as the battle that began in china becomes a world war. >> holy [ bleep ], this is going pandemic. >>> good evening. i'm fareed zakaria. once upon a time there was just one person, a

lock down wuhan.ity where the virus began will be cut off from the world. >> all the flights, all the trains, all the highways, all the buses. >> crowds swarmed train stations and airports. residents who may carry the infection are given a few hours to leave. cnn correspondent david culver is in wuhan as thousands are fighting to get out. >> this gives an idea of how seriously people are taking this idea to leave wuhan and get out before public transportation is strictly limited. >> as the city turns into a ghost town, all hell breaks loose at hospitals. >> the people were dying. it was total chaos in the hospitals in wuhan. that's why the numbers were so bad. they couldn't count the bodies. they didn't have tests. >> western journalists have little access to what is going on inside the fight against covid. but "new york times" reporter donald mcneal is following it closely. >> holy [ bleep ], this is going pandemic. it looked like the beginning of what a pandemic looks like, chaos, terrified people,

xujishui xu jishui came to xujishui came to wuhan to xu jishui came to wuhan to pursue his education.now heads up —— if a farmer lecturer, he now heads up the robotics company. xu's company began working car assembly. the competition was tough. and the company is now automating the distillation process for a local white liquorfactory. for xu, forxu, and for xu, and his business partners, there are constant challenges. one of the young technicians was recently caught breaking health and safety regulations and it is not the first time. huang tiesen also came to it wuhan to make his name. has a start—up company is trying to market software that will enable fruit retailers to adjust their stock price according to real time. but after a year, there has been little sign of success. there has been little sign of success. staff are becoming nervous. this man as a front—end programmer who has been with the business since it began. he chose wuhan to set up his company, hoping to break into this major new technology centre. he turned to as technical director to discuss finding a replacement prog

people, at the people in wuhan were also calling it "the wuhan virus." there was not much dispute about that. having said that, the chinese government has been propagating its own conspiracy theory , including this idea that american soldiers may have released the virus in october, during the international military games that were held in wuhan. there is no support whatsoever for that. by releasing this conspiracy theory, chinese officials have been able to muddy the waters, in a way that american officials have also attempted to in the united states. bottom line, it is accepted this began in the city of wuhan at the end of last year. host: anna fifield is the beijing bureau chief of the for the "washington post." it is early friday afternoon. she is joining us from new zealand. peter is on the phone from rhode island. go ahead. caller: good evening. i had a quick question. there was a doctor on c-span a few weeks ago. i did not take his name down. he is a worldwide expert on viruses. he said one of his best friends was a leading scientist from china, wh

wuhan, the epicentre of a global pandemic.y is shutting its public transport network to try to prevent the spread of a virus. in the spring of 2017, we set out to follow the fortunes of two companies as they fought to establish themselves in the city's optics valley. a dedicated zone for new technology enterprises, it's part of the move to transform the city's economy. this is the story of some of the people who live and work in the city. and the story of wuhan before and after the arrival of the coronavirus that would change all of our lives. the city of wuhan is the capital of central china's hubei province. home to 11 million people, it lies at the confluence of the han and yangtze rivers. known as the cradle of chinese civilisation, the yangtze is the longest river in the world to flow entirely within one country. and it was here in wuhan that, in 1966, chairman mao zedong made his famous swim — aged 73 — to prove he still had the stamina to run the nation. xujishui came to wuhan to pursue his education. a former universit

some in wuhan is intense and oppressive.hing heat and high humidity can continue from may until october and it is often difficult to be outside. this man has not long to deliver his project. if it goes wrong, it could mean the end of the business. in beijing, they continue to meet with potential investors. the $300,000 he received from an angel investor a year ago has almost gone. without another source of funding, they will struggle to keep going. he makes one final stop, beijing start—up street where all dot companies aspire to be. but that dream seems out of reach. spirits are low, the only person huang tiesen can turn to is his girlfriend. always in search of ideas and inspiration, xujishui always in search of ideas and inspiration, xu jishui and always in search of ideas and inspiration, xujishui and a colleague go to attend an international robotics show. huang tiesen is also in shanghai. he has come to give his angel investor an update on his company. but he is becoming impatient. he is unimpressed. huang tiesen comes

grant to the wuhan lab. but, the falsehood spread like a virus in the white house, and, without verification, in the briefing room. >> robinson: there's also another report that the n.i.h., under the obama administration, in 2015 gave that lab $3.7 million in a grant. why would the u.s. give a grant like that to china? >> trump: the obama administration gave them a grant of $3.7 million? i've been hearing about that. and we've instructed that if any grants are going to that area-- we're looking at it, literally, about an hour ago, and also early in the morning. we will end that grant very quickly.ba ecohealth alliance, for disease prevention it does throughout the world. his work was considered so important that, last year, the grant was reauthorized and increased by the trump administration. daszak had been spending about $100,000 a year collaborating with the wuhan lab. >> daszak: i can't just show up in china and say, "hi, i want to work on your viruses." i have to do this through the correct channels. so

but instead china covered up the outbreak in wuhan. china covered up the outbreak in wuhan. the national health commission ordered virus samples destroyed. brave chinesered citizens who raised alarms and deployed its propaganda organs to denounce those who called for simple transparency. that brings us to today. china is still refusing to share the information we need to keep people safe, such as clinical specimens and details about the many covid-19 patients in december 2019. not to mention patient zero. truth telling and calls for transparency aren't about politics. tois about the ongoing need save american lives. today. an ongoing threat ask medical professionals in new york city. i think they will agree. we need countries to share reliable data in a timely way. the next time that a calamity like this hits. we need reliable partners. as a result of china's choices, countries are starting to understand the risk and taking action to protect their people. nigeria andeks, of lies- a whole host and misdeeds. spain has returned defective test kits to china. the czech republic a

a wuhan businessman and journalist who reported on the number of bodies piling up outside a wuhan hospital has been missing since february 9. a journalist who quit his job as a broadcaster for the chinese communist tv so he could report on what was shappening in wuhan went missing for 28 days and then was allowed to reappear in public only after he praised the government's policy. a real estate tycoon who had been publicly critical of president she's handling of the coronavirus crisis has been missing since march 12. and a civil rights lawyer and legal scholar who criticized president xi on social media for his handling of the coronavirus crisis has been on house arrest since february 13. if the chinese government had acted responsibly and sought the advice of public health officials and set us silencing them, is a very real possibility the coronavirus could have been contained as a regional outbreak instead, we are now dealing with a deadly global pandemic. these brave men and women are just the latest targets of chinese communist governments with relentless attacks on truth tellers, free

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it was first discovered in wuhan, but i can't say it originated from wuhan.w, according to many information, many reports, including bbc, it can be everywhere and anywhere. you know, it can be in aircraft carriers. it can be found even in the submarine and it can be found in some countries, which have very little connection with china. and also, it can be found in the group of people who have never been to china. so i couldn't say — we cannot say it's originated from china... ambassador, let me stop you there, because i'm a little confused by that answer. i mean, clearly, it is a new virus. it originated somewhere, it crossed, it seems, according to all of the immunologists and the virologists, it crossed from animals to humans, and there was a first case and then it spread. there is no doubt that the first case was in china. i'm wondering why you're telling me that it spread over the world and people have caught it who've never been to china — that is clear because it's become a pandemic. but the question that matters so much is — where did it start? i think

secretary, have you seen anything that gives you high confidence that it originated in that wuhan lab? >> martha, there's enormous evidence that's where this began. we have said from the beginning, this virus originated in wuhan, china, i think the whole world can see now, remember, china has a history of infecting the world and running substandard laboratories. these aren't the first times that we have had the world exposed to viruses as a result of failures in chinese labs. i can tell you that there's a significant amount of evidence that this came from that laboratory in wuhan. >> do you believe it was manmade or genetically modified? >> the best experts seem to think it was manmade. i have no reason to disbelieve it at that point. >> your office at the dni says, the consensus, the scientific consensus wasn't manmade or genetically modified. >> that's right. i agree with that. i have seen their analysis. i have seen the summary that you saw that was released publicly, i have no reason to doubt to accurate. >> so just to be clear, you don't think it was manmade or genetically modifi

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guest: yes, they know it began in wuhan. people in wuhan were also calling at the wuhan virus. there was not much dispute about that. having said that, the chinese government has been propagating its own conspiracy theory including this idea that american soldiers may have released the virus in october during the international military games that were held in wuhan. there is no support whatsoever for that. by releasing this conspiracy theory, chinese officials have been able to muddy the waters in a way that american officials have also attempted to in the united states. thism line, it is accepted began in the city of wuhan at the end of last year. is thenna fifield beijing bureau chief of the washington post. it is early friday afternoon. she is joining us from new zealand. peter is on the phone from rhode island. go ahead. caller: good evening. i had a quick question. there was a doctor on c-span a few weeks ago. he is a worldwide expert viruses. he said one of his best friends was a leading scientist in china. he talked to him back in november. he warned thet -- chinese lead

why do so many american doctors doubt the wuhan virus came from wuhan?night to take that up and more, dr. michael pillsbury. stay with us, he'll be with us next. ♪ ♪ my age-related macular degeneration could lead to vision loss. so today i made a plan with my doctor, which includes preservision... because he said a multi- vitamin alone may not be enough. and it's my vision, my morning walk, my sunday drive, my grandson's beautiful face. only preservision areds2 contains the exact nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. it's how i see my life. because it's my vision... preservision. lou: president trump today announcint dr. anthony a few will testify -- fauci will testify in the senate next tuesday. this announcement follows an interview with "national geographic," an interview in which dr. fauci took the position to have world health organization about the origins of the wuhan virus saying, quote: if you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now,

and he talked about evidence linking the coronavirus, the wuhan virus, to a wuhan laboratory. >> i haveence that this likely came from the wuhan institute of virology. happy to see other evidence that disproves that. we should get to the bottom of it. why we've been asking for months now to give whenners access to the information. the people who can answer these questions, lou, that you just described, are the leaders of the chinese communist party. they have an obligation to the world. not one from last month or two months ago but one from today. lou: congressman mike pompeo.o.. maria: good thursdays morning, welcome, i'm maria bartiromo, thursday may seventh, top stories 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. tensions are rising between the united states and china over coronavirus. the white house saying saying te severity of the virus was hidden by the chinese communist party. he's calling for more transparency from beijing as tensions remain in wuhan lab as possible source of pandemic. china is challenging the claim calling for proof now. this morning we get another look the impact of the vir

and he talked about evidence linking the coronavirus, the wuhan virus, to a wuhan laboratory. >> i haveme from the wuhan institute of virology. happy to see other evidence that disproves that. we should get to the bottom of it. why we've been asking for months now to give whenners access to the information. the people who can answer these questions, lou, that you just described, are the leaders of the chinese communist party. they have an obligation to the world. not one from last month or two months ago but one from today. lou: congressman mike pompe

and he talked about evidence linking the coronavirus, the wuhan virus, to a wuhan laboratory. >> i haveat this likely came from the wuhan institute of virology. happy to see other evidence that disproves that. we should get to the bottom of it. why we've been asking for months now to give whenners access to the information. the people who can answer these questions, lou, that you just described, are the leaders of the chinese communist party. they have an obligation to the world. not one from last month or two months ago but one from today. lou: congressman mike pompeo. tomorrow matt gaetz and michael pillsbury among our guests. elizabeth: the dow falling for the first time in three days, dropping more than 200 points, ending the day at 23,664. it is stuck in a trading range. optimism about reopening versus worries about the china trade deal. maybe china won't buy $200 billion worth of goods next few years. >>> lots of -- washington to reopen. house has yet to come back from recess. the senate is at work. plus this story tonight, thousands of criminals, including violent criminals have

so i think wuhan has got some good lessons for us.ing to see just how long this is going to be with us for. picking up on the china story slightly different angle, do you detect when speaking to people in parliament a change in attitude towards the chinese government?|j think towards the chinese government?” think that's been the case over at least a couple of weeks now that people have been very suspicious of the figures coming out of china and whether or not they can be relied upon. but i think in this instance they probably cannot rely upon it. whatever failings there may have been through the one—party state in china in the beginning in wuhan they are now being pretty honest about the fact that there have been detections again. again in south korea. think about that is they know where they came from or apparently is to know where they came from. that's where the tracking element of it all, the track and tracing element of it all is so important. but we are still again lagging behind other countries around the world. in our ability

why do so many american doctors doubt the wuhan virus came from wuhan?night to take that up and more, dr. michael pillsbury. stay with us, he'll be with us next. ♪ ♪ ♪iopen road and telling people that liberty mutual customizes your insurance, so you only pay for what you need! [squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ and the clock could be ticking towards bad breath, receding gums and possibly tooth loss. help turn back the clock on gingivitis with parodontax. leave bleeding gums behind. parodontax. lou: president trump today announcint dr. anthony a few will testify -- fauci will testify in the senate next tuesday. this announcement follows an interview with "national geographic," an interview in which dr. fauci took the position to have world health organization about the origins of the wuhan virus saying, quote: if you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, the scientific evidence is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated.

army created this and spread it in wuhan last year.ria: originally we were led to believe that the virus started at a seafood market in wuhan, containing bats and pigs, but senator cotton told me at the outset very early on that the story did not add up. >> we knew that origin story was a myth. the lancet published a study of first 40 cases of the coronavirus and 14 of them had no contact with that market. so the virus went into that market which acted as an accelerant before it came out of that market. maria: sources told me the only super level four bio chemical lab in all of china is located in wuhan, just over 8 miles away from that wet market. again, a topic senator cotton and i were investigating back in february. what do they do at this super lab? >> we have such laboratories ourselves in the united states run by our military in large part done for preventive purposes, trying to discover vaccines or to protect our own soldiers. china is obviously very secretive about what happens at the wuhan laboratory. >> we know that at that

wuhan has been open to the world for just over wuhan has been open to the world forjust over a monthmplete and utter lockdown. the new cases there have been small in number. this spike is the most significant in terms of total. five and wuhan the past eight weeks. it will be of concern, limited to the single housing compound. we hear the local communist party official in charge of that compound has been reprimanded and dealt with so been reprimanded and dealt with so taking action on the ground but five new cases is not what wuhan but five new cases is not what wu ha n wa nts to but five new cases is not what wuhan wants to hear. we are seeing pictures coming to the newsroom of disneyland reopening, some lines, maybe not as busy as devious years. a big day for mickey mouse and c0— big day for mickey mouse and co— but it's not business as usual yet, is it? co— but it's not business as usualyet, is it? this is significant for china and disney, that huge global entertainment conglomerate. they been shut for three months. no reported cases amongst visitors at disney resorts, about half—a

into that wuhan institute of virology.ey want to say they didn't start this, that it wasn't from wuhan. it's the americans' fault or the italians' fault or something else when the whole world knows that it came from wuhan, and it is time for the chinese communist party to begin to be transparent about this and to stop lying and hiding information and stealing our technology and everything else. lou: well -- [laughter] i agree with you, $600 billion worth of intellectual property they steal every year, and we have watched almost 100,000 americans killed by this virus that they didn't warn the world about. you can argue about whether they engineered it, whether it -- whether they authored it, but its origin was wuhan, and it was the chinese who unleashed it on the world and didn't say a word to a soul. they're responsible for every death, every infection around the world, are they not? >> they are. and that is why we introduced the stop covid act, because u.s. citizens who have experienced loss of life and livelihood and the

virus escaped from the wuhan institute of virology.n researchers were quoted just a week ago saying point-blank that there is every evidence of manmade manipulation of the virus, so that really is quite a curious contradiction, isn't it? so the wuhan virology lab still is the epicenter of the deadly contagion. joining us now is dr. michael pillsbury. and dr. michael pillsbury is the foremost in the minds of most leading experts on china in the country. he's also the director of the center for chinese strategy at the hudson institute, author of "the hundred-year marathon." mike, great to have you with us. i, i think it is really interesting that we have the nih director, collins, who says -- has to say that it wasn't a manmade virus with absolutely no science to support it while virologists and researchers in australia says there's every evidence of it being a manmade, manipulated virus. what do you make of this unseemly effort to go beyond science and fact to offer the public conclusions? it looks suspicious to the, to those of us who

in the early days of the wuhan virus pandemic.s tonight to take all of that up, tom fitton, he is the president of judicial watch. tom, great to see you -- >> hi, lou. lou: and why do we need to know what fauci was saying to the w.h.o.? >> well, there are lots of reasons. first of all, it's a crisis that shut the country down, so we need to know the detail of how it was handled by the government initially. but more importantly, what that corrupt agency, w.h.o., was telling our senior officials like dr. fauci not only about coronavirus, but about china's connections to it. so we can't foia w.h.o., at least i don't think we can directly, but we can talk to or try to get documents from agencies that were talking to w.h.o., and that's why our client, daily caller news foundation, was so smart to ask nih for the terms. and what -- for the materials. and what's troubling is they haven't given us the records. transparency is urgent. the laws on transparency don't get revoked when an agency's busy. they need to follow the law here, and th

in wuhan, eight doctors who sounded the alarm in december were accused of spreading lie lies, rested, and forced to sign documents claiming they made false statements that disturb the public order and in reality they were telling the truth. they were warning us. one of those doctors has been missing since late march. another has since died from coronavirus. one had the pregnant wife with his second child when he died not just chinese doctors but journalists and activists who uscourageously spoke up are disappearing also. a chinese law professor spoke out about the handling of theor outbreak and criticize the chinese president xi has been missing since february the chinese lawyer and journalist who went to wuhan to report what was happening there is a missing since february 6. a wuhan businessman and journalist who reported on the number of bodies piling up outside a hospital has been missing since february 9th. a journalist to quit his job as a broadcaster chinese communist party tv stations and he could report on what wasat happening in wuhan went missing 20 days and then was allowed

not from wuhan, specifically. but, in 2004, two lab workers in beijing, so also in china, were infected with sars. and the year before, in singapore, a student was, also, infected with sars through accidental contamination. but, for now, outside of the u.s., most everybody is saying that it is highly unlikely that this virus came from the lab in wuhan. china, for its part, has called the idea absurd and said that secretary of state mike pompeo is insane for pushing it. alex marquardt, cnn, washington. >> amid the pandemic, u.s. president still intent on settling political scores. mr. trump has now fired the state department inspector general steve linick. now, he did play a small role in the impeachment inquiry. the democratic chairman of the house foreign affairs committee denounced the firing and said lenox offers had opened investigation into the secretary of state mike pompeo. the senior state department official says pompeo recommend he be removed from the job but doesn't know the reasons why. going to take a

lou: china's communist party using the wuhan virus -- yes, sir -- using the wuhan virus to advance theirt's the united states to do? we'll take it up specifically with the hudson institute's michael pillsbury, one of the country's leading experts on china. he joins us in one moment. please stay with us. these days staying connected is more important than ever. so we're working 24/7 to maintain a reliable network, to meet your growing internet needs. we're helping customers who are experiencing financial difficulties stay connected. we're increasing internet speeds for low income families in our internet essentials program. and delivering self-install kits to your door. nos comprometemos a mantenerte conectado. we're committed to keeping you connected. for more information on how you can stay connected, visit xfinity.com/prepare. ♪ ♪ lou: joining us tonight is dr. michael pillsbury, director of the center for chinese strategy at the hudson institute. he's the author of "the 100-year marathon." mike, good to have you with us. let's start with what seems to be a real change in direction on

laboratory, the wuhan institute of virology.aid he had a high degree of confidence, as he put it, that that had been the origin of the coronavirus but he would not be drawn on precise details of that. he said that the virus could either have spilled out accidentally or the chinese may have been content to allow it to slip out and spread. us intelligence, of course, earlier today issued a statement today that they had concluded this was not genetically modified or man—made, the virus, therefore ruling out that it was a potential biological weapon, but those same intelligence officials have not ruled out the possibility that it could indeed have originated in a laboratory, such as the wuhan institute for virology, president trump has said that, if that is found to be the case and that china was negligent in this regard, then there would be consequences, possibly they could be in the form of sanctions but the chinese are very vigorously denying suggestions that this originated in the lab. is this a conscious pivot now from donald t

our destination set for wuhan. it is going to be about a four-hour train ride.e've noticed it is relatively full so far. say at least maybe half full, which is pretty significant given there is next to no one traveling for several weeks. let's get onboard here. onboard the train attendants collect our passports and try to place justin robinson's accent. >> where are you from? >> i'm from london. >> england? >> yes. >> england, yes. >> reporter: it is not just friendly conversation. they want to be sure we've been in the country for at least two weeks so we're not potentially importing the virus from other areas. the threat to china now thought to be external. arriving in wuhan i am quickly reminded of the last time we were here, almost three months to the day. we had spent just 29 hours on the ground when we abruptly learned wuhan was going on lockdown. cnn shared the scramble out of wuhan with you. a rush to check out sparked by a 3:00 a.m. phone call. our rush right now is to check out, get out. we headed to the train station as soon as we got word. crowds alr

investigation for its role in the origin of the wuhan virus pandemic.resident trump saying he has seen proof that the virus started in that wuhan lab. >> have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the wuhan institute of virology was the origin of this virus. >> >> yes, i have. yes, i have. the world health organization should be ashamed of themselves because they're like the public relations agency for china. lou: as the trump administration continues its investigation into the origins of the wuhan views, the radical dems -- virus, the radical dems are teeing up another investigation of president trump, if you can belief that. house speaker pelosi is signing democrats to serve on the battle led by james clyburn. among them, maxine waters, jamie raskin, carolyn maloney. house minority leader kevin mccarthy calls those appointments of the panel purely political, and he doubts republicans will even participate. well, joining us tonight is a member of the leadership, house minority whip steve scalise. congressman, i

on the wuhan institute of virology. and it is just a few miles away from the seafood market whereas you mentioned that place explode where it seemed to go from person to person in a rapid manner. so that was believed to be kind of the original source of the outbreak here. one thing we do know is there's mostly circumstantial evidence that would suggest a leak. it's the location we pointed outs, and they study viruses there, it's a level 4 bio safety, and we know they include bats in those experiments too. some photos have surfaced, and those photos have not been verified by cnn but they seem to indicate substandard conditions. the chinese are coming out and saying to pompeo in particular, look, if you've got this evidence show it, otherwise we think you're bluffing. >> thank you very much. david is one of the few people that's actually been in there to give everyone a perspective of the physical proximity and what this lab actually does. i want to go to jim sciutto now an anchor and chief security correspondent. it's ci

you could fly out of wuhan where the primary problem was and where the lab is, you could fly out of wuhan and go to different parts of the world, but you couldn't go to beijing or any place in china. so what is that all about?

we know that patients in china it was about mid-november in wuhan, we know that ground zero had the p 4 weapons lab where the virus likely came from for the next two months, we know that china hid the virus from the world behind the shield of the world health organization, and as they did that, they sent gleaning passenger jets from china not into the rest of china from wuhan but the places like new york and milan seeding the world with what would become a pandemic as they did that we also know, maria, from their own customs data that they vacuumed up virtually all of the world's personal protective equipment including over 2 billion masks and we also know that today what china is doing sitting on that stockpile of what we call ppe is they are selling it at profit earring prices to some and to other countries they are actually putting pressure on those countries to deny the virus came from china, or to talk about taiwan or to do other things so that's it in a nutshel and what that means for us here is this morning, americans won't go to church because of the china virus, sons and daug