"three researchers from china's wuhan institute of virology became sick enough in november 2019 thathey sought hospital care according to a report that could add weight to whether the virus might have escaped from a laboratory. the details of the reporting go beyond a state department fact sheet, issued during the final days of the trump administration, which said that several researchers came sick in autumn of 2019 with symptoms consistent with covid-19 and common seasonal illnesses. the wuhan institute has not shared raw data, safety logs, and rap records -- and lab records on his work with that switch many consider the cause of the virus." can you comment on that? guest: i want to give a shout out to to my colleague, michael gordon, we took the state department's statement issued five days before trump left office. it is not given elective attention and i think it was discounted because president trump and pompeo had it in for china. we tried to get behind that statement and confirm the intelligence. over the course of many weeks we were able to tease it out in details. two of tho

wuhan is the home of institute of virology as you learned to know.onducted gain of function research on bat coronavirus viruses? what is that? what is gain of function? what does it mean? modifying a virus to make it contagious and dangerous to study it and hopefully stop it. we know that the lab had notoriously bad safety standards seems like a bad combination. we also know u.s. tax dollarsy used to help fund this research and makes it particularly difficult to hold china's feet to the fire kind of hard to ask tough questions which our money is involved, wouldn't you think? today senator rand paul did just that. >> dr. dr. fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? >> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> brian: all right, with all due respect dr. anthony fauci that's a highly misleading statement. he is right when he says the nih never directly funded the institute of virology,

research in the wuhan institute. we do not fund -- >> >> >> he does not do gain of function research and if it is it is being conducted in north carolina, not china. >> you don't think the spike protein that got into the sars virus is gain of function? >> that's a not a minority. at least two other scientists have signed a statement from the cambridge working group saying it is gain of function. >> well, it is not. if you look at the grant and you look at the progress reports, it is not gain of function. despite the fact that people tweet that. >> sendsing money to the wuhan virology institute. >> we do not send money now. >> we were sending it. it was a sub agency and sub grant. do you support the money from nih going to the wuhan institute. >> let me explain to you why that was done. the sars covid 1 originated in bats in china. it would have been irresponsible of us, if we did not investigate the bat viruses and the serology to see who might have been. >> or send it to the chinese government that we may not be abl

they worked in the wuhan institute. we're told this came from the wet market lab from exotic animals, but not one animal tested positive for the virus. we have an amendment we hope will be adopted by this body that says gain of function research as defined by the n.i.h. in 2014 will not be permitted in china. we will not fund it with american dollars. but it's like so much waste in government, i think there's no reason to be sending any money to china for research. there's a -- they are a rich country, we're worried about them outcompeting us, stealing intellectual property and sending them money to do research. why don't they spend their own money? are they open enough to tell us what is going on in the lab to give them money. they have not shown us this and we are finding out people were sick in the lab in november. no more money should flow to china for research on gain of function which means increasing the virrians of covid virus to humans. so i urge this body to adopt my amendment which says, from here on out, chi

senator paul: do you support sending money to the wuhan virology institute? dr. fauci: i do not support it. senator paul: there was a subgrant. do you support money from n.i.h. that was going to the wuhan institute? dr. fauci: let me explain to you why that was do. the sars-cov-1 originated in bats in china. it would have been irresponsible of us if we did not investigate the bat viruses and the sirology to see who is perhaps -- senator paul: or send it to the chinese government whom we can't trust with this knowledge and this incredibly dangerous viruses. government scientists like yourself who support gain of function research. dr. fauci: i do not support gain of function research. they are not correct. senator paul: government defenders of gain of function such as yourself say that covid-19 mutations were random and not designed by man. but interestingly, the technique that dr. barret developed forces mutation by serial passage through cell culture that the mutations appear to be natural. in fact, dr. barrett named the technique the no technique. nicholas bake

do you support the money from nih was going to the wuhan institute? >> let me explain to you why that was done. the sars covid-19 originated in bats in china. it would have been irresponsible of us if we did not investigate the bat viruses and thor is to see who was infected in china. >> or send it to the chun he's government that we may not be able to to trust with this knowledge and with this incredibly dangerous viruses. government scientists like yourself who favor gain of function research -- >> i don't favor gain of function research. you're saying things that are not correct. >> government defenders of gain of function such as yourself say that covid-19 mutations were random and not designed by man. but interestingly, the technique that dr. barrick developed forces mutations by serial passage through cell culture that the mutations appear to be natural. in fact, dr. barrick named the technique the no see them technique because mutations appear naturally. nicholas baker, the new york magazine said, nobody would know if the virus had been fabrica

fauci were funneling money to the wuhan institute of i haverology. -- viewerology. virology.eone has to be held accountable. we should have a 9-11 commission about this. >> laura: is it not strange at the very least that when i pressed dr. fauci on this in february, i don't think he was pressed on this question prior to his instinct is to defend china. when he found out stuff was going on there, why wouldn't his reaction be total out rage and we better get to the bottom of this? wouldn't he and collins want the answers? they ask in academ parsed sentences. >> just like joe biden and nancy pelosi. dr. fauci and francis collins have a lot at stake. not just their reputation but what we know about the origins or the evidence that points where, where the origins of this coronavirus began. i listened to the recording dating back with you. it's very revealing. there is more to uncover. >> laura: thank you. aside from covid's origins another big question: why the mad push from the medical establishment in the left to force vaccinations on every person on the planet even though with

he stands to get crushed if it turns out taxpayer dollars that he helped funnel to the wuhan institutevirology in any way played a role in this pandemic. >> you gave them money and said don't do gain of function research and they said we won't. >> correct. >> you have no way of knowing whether they did or not accept you trust them. is that right? >> well, we generally always trust the grantee to do what they say. >> how do you know they didn't do the research and not put it on their website? >> there is no way of guaranteeing that. laura: right them another check all the dice. that is why the gop, the nih and all other parties involved in this gain of function money-laundering scheme. the more the lies and distractions from china in the us are exposed, the greater the chance that republicans have of retaking congress in 2022 and retaking the white house in 2024. right now that seems like the only way we are going to get real trustworthy answers about the origins of covid and we need those answers and that is the angle. joining me now is someone who has been out front on china, indiana

institute. this research has been funded by the nih. the collaboration between the u.s. and the wuhan virology institute continues. they worked together to induce bat virus protein into the backbone of the deadly sars virus and then used this man-made super virus to infect human airway cells. think about that. the sars virus had a 15% mortality, and we are fighting a pandemic that has about a 1% mortality. can you imagine if a sars virus that has been juiced up and had viral proteins added to it, if that were released accidentally? dr. fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan? dr. fauci: senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in that institute.

the theory that has gained track shup is the pan may have accidentally escaped from the wuhan institute of virology in china. that is far from conclusive. biden ordered intelligence officials to deliver a report within 90 days that could bring us closer to a definitive conclusion. annie is following the story and covers the white house and politics for the "post." thanks for being with us. >> hi there. good morning. >> let me begin with the statement yesterday, just how significant was that from the president? >> i mean, it was a significant statement on a number of different fronts. the first piece of it was that biden was really reversing a position that his white house has been quite dug in on, which had been that the world health organization should take the lead in investigating the origins of the coronavirus. a problem with that has been the w.h.o. had tried and failed in the past to do that and sort of seen as being quite deferential to china. it was a little bit like having, you know, the foxes investigate what happened at the hen house. but there are other parts of the statemen

ralph barrett, a virologist in if the u.s., has collaborating with a doctor of the wuhan virology institutescoveries about how to create super viruses. this gain of function has been funded by the nih. the collaboration between the u.s. and the wuhan virology institute continues. two doctors worked together to get the spike protein into the backbone of the saidly sars virus. and use this man made super virus. think about that for a moment. sars virus had a 14% fatality. can you imagine the sars virus that is juiced up and there is the attitude. dr. fauci, you still support funding of the nih funding of the lab in wuhan. that is not and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> do they fund dr. barrick? >> we do not fund -- >> do you fund dr. barrick's research? >> dr. barrick does not do gain of function research. and if if it is, it's acarding -- according to the guidelines and done in north carolina, not china. >> you don't think that spike protein that it got from the wuhan institute into the sars virus is gain of function? you would be in a minority. at leas

he lays out a nearly insurmountable large amount of evidence that this virus originated in the wuhan institute of virology in central china. it seemed to make sense, we raise the possibility from the early days of the pandemic. but this piece all but proves it. at the time the outbreak began last fall, the wuhan land was conducting experiments on how to make bad viruses infectious to human beings and they were funded by american tax dollars, the experiments were there funding approved and directed by tony fauci in washington. tony fauci. it's hard to believe but it's true, the piece lays it out. many of the experiments fell under the direction of a chinese researcher emma known as the bad lady, china's leading expert on bad born viruses, her job was to engineer corona viruses so that they infect human beings and do so as easily as possible. this work, nicholas wade notes, doing gain of function experience designed to make

intelligence report found that in november of 2019 several researchers at china's wuhan institute ofirology got sick and went to a hospital for care. they're not sure what the illness was but the timing is important because, again, this was in november, and china reported to the world health organization that the first patient with covid-like symptoms was recorded in december of 2019. one source who has seen the intelligence says, quote, at the end of the day there is still nothing definitive. cnn's natasha -- and david culver are following this for us. natasha, what are you learning about how this piece of intel fits into what the u.s. knows about the origins of covid-19? >> reporter: it's another piece of the puzzle, ana, the u.s. intelligence community has low confidence in its assessment of the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, meaning that they don't really know exactly where, how or even when the pandemic spread. what this does, though, is it kind of up the timeline a bit with regard to the potential theories about where this pandemic actually began. importantly, though, the

so what is that wuhan institute of biology . guest: the leading center for studying coronavirus is in china. and it is in wuhan and the chief scientist there who is an expert on viruses. mark: others have called the meth lady. that's how experts deal with the bad viruses . guest: she's been collecting these viruses from the caves in southern china. ahang out . guest: ralph is, maybe a verydis researcher and he trained the doctor in china in the genetically engineering of coronavirus this. and he's a leader in his field . >> and going through this, the market people to know, so that we understand the individuals that you write about, we understand the institutions and we can draw more information haabout them and was been taking place here. what is function sort geo f research . >> this is anything that you do to a virus that increases is pathogens.pa so it's possible to do the genetic engineering to make changes in the genome and to add properties so that it didn't have before. and that is gain of function. so that you making mo

money did make its way o the wuhan institute of her ologies through an outside group called eco-healthiance, that group was awarded a $3.7 million grant from the nih in that groue $600,000 of that grant to the wuhan lab for a china bat research project, the project help build a library of 15000 bat samples and lawmakers wanted to know if the wuhan lab could've been using the back library of viruses to try to engineer one to be more dangerous and more contagious, something called gain-of-function research. >> we are not aware of otherer sources of funds or other activities they might've undertaken outside of what our approved grant allowed. >> we could have sent money through echo health alliance, money could've ended up in the wuhan institute of virology which might be doing gain-of-function research. >> at the very least whatever's happening at that lab was concerning enough to the nih that last year end the height of the pandemic they froze grant money going to the lab citing biosafety concerns and those concerns still exist today because eagle health alliance tells me there grant mo

fauci said there was no money provided to the wuhan institute of virology but there was but it was launderedle health alliance and a guy named peter dies it was only american on the w.h.o., that money $1.5 million went to the wuhan institute of her obligee and it was used in the gain of function testing. were gonna find that out, that is going to be the truth, there is aut lot of circumstantial evidence. open the books and let us eat. liz: openokok the books. >> we already know there's a big problem, it indicated this is going on this virus has never been identified in the wild there's not organism or animal that we know this by wrist existing we know when this happened remembers in november before the chinese declared that the first case of the virus was taking place in chinait was hospitalized with symptoms that were consistent for coronavirus, we also know that they shut roads down of the wuhan institute of virology in a period of time that there wasabo scell phone activity, a lot of strange stuff was happening around the time that this virus would've broke out. i figure a lot of circumst

grant money did make its way to the wuhan institute of virology through an outside group called echo ey and gave some of that $600,000 of it to the wuhan lab for a china bat research project that built up that library of coronaviruses in the wuhan lab. the project helped build that library of 15,000 bat samples from those , they discovered 400 new coronaviruses including one that had a 96% match to covid-19 today, lawmakers wanted to know if that wuhan lab could have been using this bat library of viruses to try to engineer one of them, to be more dangerous and more contagious. something called "gain of function research." >> do we know whether the wuhan institute of virology does gain of function research? >> they were not approved nih for doing gain of function research. we are, of course not aware of other sources of funds or other activities they might have undertaken outside of what our approved grant allowed. >> okay so we could have cent money through echo health alliance, money could have ended up in the wuhan institute of virology, which might be doing gain of function resear

wuhan. institute of virology. either way, this is a total revision of dr. fauci's position. just a few days ago, he was incensed, outraged by the suggestion he funded gain of function experiments in china. now he is conceding it's possible. but, of course, he's always known it was possible. the grant dr. fauci approved for researchch supports these experiments. in 2014, tony fauci and ia grant called understanding the risk of bat coronaviruses and that was overseen by peter who told the world in high volume there is no chance this virus escaped the lab and was appointed by the world health organization to investigate covid and declare the wuhan lab blameless. what a scam? the grant from dr. fauci said it will fund testing coronavirus using reverse genetics and: oh! receptor binding essays and virus infection experiments across different species and humanized mice. actually that's quite a broad range. run that by any scientist and they will tell you a lot fits under that description. but specifically, what did those virus infections experiments with bat coronaviruses consist

out the last couple of weeks, there was already ample evidence and strange occurrences in the wuhan institute of virology. people continued to not look at the facts that there was a strain coincidence you have virology institute 10 miles from the market. they were working on the coronaviruses and they even published on the fact they were doing certain mutations to the virus to increase its virulence. you played a lot of those clips. i was a target of media hit campaigns when i gave credence to the possibility of a lab error. you can't deny there are those coincidences, the probable thing with pandemic is a natural spill over. fact they were denied access to ask questions to the lab and china concealed more information in terms of hospitalizations and cases and deaths. you have to put it together. it's criminal they didn't investigate that lab early on. >> sean: well said. kayleigh mcenany, now that joe biden won't do a thing and will allow the corrupt w.h.o. to investigate on our behalf, why would we ever trust the propaganda arm of the chinese government in this investigation? >> well, we sh

and we also know that they shut roads down around the wuhan institute of virology. a party where there was absolutely no cell phone activity there. so a lot of strange stuff was happening right around the time this virus would have broke out. i think there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that it came from this lab and its building. we'll find out that is what happened. we'll find out that dr. fauci and national institute of health provided some of the funds for this to happen. elizabeth: yeah. the other thing too is, you know, so we have in 2015 u.s. scientists working with chinese scientists developed a chimeric virus a lab-made coronavirus. >> frankenstein. elizabeth: sars virus, yeah. so they were working on this to develop vaccines. you know, dr. fauci in 2011 coauthored a "washington post" op-ed saying yes, let's generate virus in a laboratory that does not exist in nature for the purpose of creating vaccines. so the question is, that seems like a noble intent but the issue is why farm it out to china which has such serious safety violations and poor safety

his organization funded coronavirus research at the wuhan institute of virology.he was, also, part of the w.h.o. team sent to china to investigate the origins. so, let's now go to one of the first people to connect the dots on the lab-leak theory. that is, jamie metzel, former nsc staffer under president clinton. jamie, thank you. let us start with the most flagrant of the notions and work our way towards where you think we are best suited, in this moment. they did it. they weaponized it. and they did it to hurt us. and then, they sent it to us. do you believe that? >> yeah. i think that's extremely unlikely. as you've mentioned, i have been -- i was one of the worst people to raise very, very significant questions about the origins of the pandemic. and the likelihood, even as i see it, that this stems from a lab accident. but the idea that they weaponized it, and purposefully released it just doesn't make sense. i've seen no -- even circumstantial -- evidence suggesting that. and it wouldn't really make sense, because they understand that -- that viruses are unco

the first patient the coronavirus in fact were employees at this wuhan institute of virology, at the once again, why would the wuhan lab be conducting experiments like that in the first place? we know that tony fauci had authorized payment for the research, for five years from 2014 to 2019 the health alliance, run by a man you may recognize, and he contracted with a doctor who conducted gain of function experiments of the lab. just before it became public knowledge on december 9th 2019, he sat for an interview streamed online. in the interview, he bragged about how easy it is to manipulate coronaviruses in the lab experiments. >> coronavirus, you know all this stuff, but you can manipulate them in the lab and it's smart protein draws the world of what happens in the coronavirus. you can get the sequence, you can build the protein, and we did. you can do some work in the lab. >> tucker: so, just days after that was shot it became clear that this new version of the coronavirus, the novel coronavirus, now covid-19, was running rampant through wuhan and then china, then the world. since

intelligence found several researchers at the wuhan institute became ill and were hospitalized in november of 2019. yet china reported to the world world health organization saying the first patient with covid symptoms was not recorded until nearly a month later. the director of the wuhan national biosafety lab calls the u.s. intel report on those hospitalizations a complete lie, according to state media. cnn has reached out to the chinese foreign ministry for comment. cnn's steven chung is with us now live from beijing. how is beijing likely to respond to these new questions about the origin of covid-19? >> well, rosemary the beijing government, the foreign ministry spokesman just responded to this question a few minutes ago, and he not surprisingly, again, issued a very strong denial and pointing to a statement made by the wuhan institute last month saying this institute never game into contact with the covid-19 virus between november 2019, and so again this is the very strong denial and the spokesman actually went on to really have, you know, more of the chinese usual spiel about how th

he said no nih money went to the wuhan institute for gain of function.ientist or bat woman. she wrote a paper this mit scientists looked at they said was gain of function. juicing up the viruses to make them potent and infect humans. she wrote the paper and she acknowledged her funding came from dr. fauci's group, niaid part of nih. he is verifyably telling you something that is not true. he may be quibbling and saying they weren't doing gain of function or weren't supposed to. we have looked at the grant application. in the grant application we have a cellular biologist from rutgers who says the grant application is for gain of function juicing up these viruses. dr. fauci came to congress yesterday and lied. we can't prove the virus came from the lab. i'm not saying it did. i'm saying there is very much suspicious evidence that it might have. >> bill: what does -- he was under oath, wasn't he, in that hearing? >> i don't think he had to take an oath. what he said was verifyably false. >> bill: if you're right what does he have to gain? what does he have

francis collins, told lawmakers today that money did make its way to the wuhan institute of virology ide group called eco health alliance. that group was awarded by the nih a $3.7 million grant. eco health gave $600,000 of it to the wuhan lab for a china bat research project. that project helped build the library of 15,000 bat samples, 400 new coronaviruses were discovered including one that had a 96% match to covid-19. lawmakers today wanted to know if the wuhan lab could be using this babb library of viruses to try to engineer one to be more dangerous and more contagious, something called gain of function research. >> we're of course not aware of other sources of funds or other activities that they might have undertaken outside of what our approved grant allowed. >> so we could have sent money through eco health alliance, money could have behinded up in the wuhan institute of virology, which might be doing gain of function research. >> dr. fauci was also asked today at a separate event if it's possible that the virus escaped from a lab. >> we don't know 100% the answer to that. sinc

reports proven workers at the wuhan institute of virology became sick as early of decembew dr. anthony fauci reverses quote saying, quote, he's not convinced that coronavirus developed naturally. senator tom cotton from arkansas and former director of national intelligence john ratcliffe and world health organization told me yesterday on sunday morning futures all coming up. markets are bouncing, take a look at futures on the upside. dow industrials up 150 points, half percent and the nasdaq up 87 and the s&p 500 higher by 21 as we kick off the new week, following week of wild swing last week. dow and s&p 500 finishing red and nasdaq seeing first positive week in more than a month. nasdaq up a third of a percent last week. this morning european markets look like this. stocks are edging higher in euro zone. ftse 100 up 23 and cac up 10 markets, markets in germany closed for holiday this morning. in asia fractional moves. take a look at asian markets overnight. biggest mover overnight was the kospi index korea down one-third of 1%. crypto crash, bitcoin tumbling more than 50% fro

he had to be aware of the fact that china's wuhan institute of virology was involved in that and they in terms of our own techniques on how to conduct gain of function and make these viruses more deadly. so he has got to come clean from my standpoint. elizabeth: senator, let's move on to this story if i may, the fbi now investigating a suspicious package filled with white powder with a death threat sent to republican senator rand paul's home in kentucky. senator rand paul blaming twitter for not stopping violent tweets or threats against him and his family. the senator will be speaking with twitter. what do you think of what is going on with social media and violent threats against conservatives? >> it is a very unfortunate world we live in today where politics turned into these types of repugnant threats. let's face it, social media is not helpful from this standpoint the way they have taken sides in the political realm. they are part and parcel with the democratic party. they pushed the russian hoax. they censored information, i think life-saving information when it comes to early t

learned that for years, tony fauci signed off on funding for a gain-of-function experiments at the wuhan institutelogy. tony fauci approved that funding despite a federal moratorium on gain-of-function experiments because they are dangerous. now we know that wuhan lab was almost certainly where the coronavirus pandemic began. finally, someone asked fauci about this. at a hearing today, rand paul became the very first. here is part of the exchange. >> dr. fauci, do you still support funding of the nih funding on the lab in wuhan? >> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the wuhan institute -- >> do you fund dr. barrett's gain-of-function research? >> dr. barrett is not doing gain-of-function research, and if -- >> a bad -- at least 200 scientists have signed a statement from the cambridge working group saying that it is a gain-of-function. >> well, it is not. >> tucker: oh, so he just flat out denied it. but if you listen carefully and if you kept listening, fauci admitted that actua

career on gain of function research with the wuhan institute of virology.e only american that was allowed on the w.h.o. investigative team, the one person in the world who has the biggest conflict of interest in the one person we allowed to investigate the wuhan institute of virology. that's insane and for him to go out there and say that we have hope that the w.h.o. is going to investigate and the more transparent answer, but that's unacceptable. we can't rely on the w.h.o. corrupted by the chinese communist party to get to the bottom of this. independent investigation, do all the intel declassified and final thing i say it's the community corrupted by the same scientists that we are relying upon in april. 2020, the dni went out there and said the intel community agrees as our natural emergence and i guarantee. >> laura: i've got to ask you, what do we get for all the money that we give to the intel community? we are funding a woke military right now that's doing medical for race theory and all the cartoon recruitment ads pushing the social justice issues

intelligence, in november of 2019, three researchers from china's wuhan institute of virology were sick enough to warrant hospital care. it went beyond what the state department had revealed in the final days of the trump administration when it said that several researchers came sick with symptoms consistent with covid. november is when many believe the virus began circulating around the city of wuhan. the latest in a series of revelations that have caused many who initially dismissed the lab leak theory to reconsider. among those is donnell g. mcneil jr. a former science writer for "the new york times" who recently published an essay titled how i learned to stop worrying and love the lab leak theory. he credits a former colleague for causing his reflection. that former colleague is nicholas wade who, himself, wrote recently for the bulletin of atomic scientists. wade does not come to a conclusion but says neither the natural escape theory nor the natural emergence ehypothesis cn be ruled out. he noted this. because president trump said the virus will escaped from a wuhan lab, editors g

the nih did give the money to the wuhan institute of virology.s, we have no idea what happened with the research from the bat lady. her records are sealed and obviously china has been less than helpful, helping us and other governments gives the the bottom of where this came from. although they have tested 80000 different animals trying to get the source of the initial viruses. they have not gotten there, but as senator paul says all roads lead to china in terms of letting this cat out of the institute bag in wuhan, what do you think? >> i think we are never going to get to the full bottom of this because as you mentioned they got rid of a lot of documentation. doctors and people who could talk about where this came from we will never know exactly what happened. we do know completely debunked what doctor felty said during that hearing but we do know there is a paper trail of grants over and over again going to the wuhan institute of rolla g. that is where they have done this very dangerous research and experimentation on viruses in animals to see

the compelling evidence, originating at the wuhan institute of virology. you know, lab that studied deadly coronaviruses, from cell phone data showing a potential shutdown of the lab in the fall of 2019. reports of hospitalized workers in november of 2019. china's silencing of journalists and doctors and other whistleblowers. we have long now covered the very real possibility that the wuhan lab was the origin, was the source, of covid-19. during the trump administration, so-called journalists, so-called fact checkers, the media mob in general, they called this a debunked conspiracy theory. the "new york times" reporting, "the lab has been the focus of unfounded conspiracy theories promoted by the trump administration about the pandemic's origins." "washington post," those genuses, called it a conspiracy theory that was already debunked. politifact rated it a debunked conspiracy theory. cnn called it a conspiracy theory that "almost certainly is not true." npr, national propaganda radio that you pay for, they reported scientists had debunked the theory. the

as you look at the wuhan institute of virology, which is really the center point and heavy focus foris possible origin theory, you notice it's well fortified. there's a lot of security. us trying to go out of our vehicle and knock on the door to get in is simply not possible. we've made several requests, don, to speak to the researchers there, to speak to the director, to get access ourselves t. that has been denied repeatedly. >> appreciate you joining us from shanghai this evening. >>> a plane flies from one democracy to another, only to be forcibly diverted by a dictator and passengers dragged off. >>> plus a former nba star turned away by an upscale restaurant, and he says it was racism. i'm going to speak with dominique wilkins straight ahead. t: it even kills the covid-19 virus. science supports these simple facts. there's only one true lysol. lysol. what it takes to protect. more protection, more sun, more joy. neutrogena® beach defense® the suncare brand used most by dermatologists and their families, neutrogena® for people with skin. neutrogena® ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ monitor, check an

below that, another photograph of the wuhan institute that is the center of this latest development. later in the program we will talk to one of the reporters who broke the story. michael, new york, independent line, your thoughts on all of this? good morning. caller: the question about where the virus came from, it's occam's razor, the obvious answer is often the right answer. in this case we know the bats have the coronavirus and was in these caves in china for thousands of years and we know the wet markets have been there for probably a thousand years. suddenly we have an outbreak of the coronavirus behind the street and you tell me they are not related? that's ridiculous. it's perfectly obvious that if it didn't jump from bats to humans and suddenly we have a breakout in close proximity to the outbreak? it's perfectly obvious that this came from the virology lab in wuhan. we don't need a big investigation that will be clouded by disinformation put out by the chinese authorities. host: thank you for the call. this is from "the new york times," the directive into the origins of the

we have to think about the fact that the united states government was helping to fund the wuhan institutedo this research. was it of a good idea? it doesn't seem like it. we need to hold people accountable who made those decisions. is this something we should be doing? i don't think so. >> tucker: no, it's insanity. us playing god. it didn't end well ever. the start of the pandemic, a reporter in asia conducted a video interview with the top physician at the world health organization. she asked about taiwan. first the doctor pretended he was experiencing technical difficulties and could not hear the question. in the end when pressed, he just turned off the call. he knew his masters in china didn't want him to talk about the possibility that taiwan could be an independent nation. he had to obey them. he is not alone. you see this in the united states. in a recent interview an actor and wrestler john promoted a new film called f- fine. -- 9. he said taiwan is the first country that can watch f- 9. that seems harmless but from the chinese perspective it is not allowed. he had to grovel in ch

. >> the director of the wuhan institute of virology responded wall street journal reports claiming wuhan were second 2019, telling the global times, quote, those claims are groundless. i don't know where such information came from but we will keep you posted. todd: infrastructure negotiations hit a wall. they want to focus on roads and bridges and infrastructure but democrats are focusing on the broader picture with republicans debating whether to put forward a counteroffer while the white house is opened more negotiations. >> the ball is in their court. we are awaiting their counterproposal and welcomes that, we are eager to engage and have them down here to the white house once we see that proposal. >> you be negotiators.to me today to discuss next steps. >> florida and nebraska join the list of states to end federal unemployment benefits. have the country dropping the $300 weekly enhancement. the move by republican governors comes as businesses struggle to hire employees. the $3 benefit was included in the democrat but american rescue plan. >> arlington national cemetery relaxing covi

categorically has not funded gain of function research to be conducted in the wuhan institute of virologysteve: that is dr. fauci's big lie. since january, our special investigation into origins of the pandemic has laid out in detail the public record of the specific projects through which the nih did fund gain of funk function research it is so easy to prove that what dr. fauci said is a lie just by looking at public documents on dr. fauci's own web site is a big lie. people might believe it. they might believe, that fauci's boss. >> let me be clear, we never approved any grant that would have supported gain of function research on dangerous coronaviruses to see if they could be more transmissible -- lethal for individuals or the human species. steve: really, in 2011, you were all for it -- saying a dangerous virus from the laboratory is quote, a risk worth taking, that is why you funded it. this week, dr. fauci said that is incorrect. okay then. here we go. in 2020, niaid up initiated a project, titled understanding risk of back coronavirus emergences, we'll put the links up to the docu

. >> a bad virus spike protein they got from the wuhan institute into the stars is not the minority becauserking group saying is again a function. >> it is not and if you look at the grant in the progress reports, it is not gain of function despite the fact that people tweet that. >> to write about reports sending money to the wuhan institute. >> we do not send money. >> to report sending money, we were sending it through equal health, it's a sub agency and a subgrant, do you support the money from nih that was going to the wuhan institute? liz: did you catch that dr. fauci so we do not send money now, what was your take on that exchange? >> this is what we know we were finding viral experiments in the united states as well as china, we were working together in this virus that we see today this covid-19 virus looks like it could be a super virus, we don't know that for sure but it's a very mean virus that has a glue that sticks to human lung cells like a virus we've never seen before. certainly the possibility p of this that it could've been the result of a viral gainot of function but were

of our revealing the wuhan institute of our revealing the evidence could also place the united statesituation as well. ., , ,., ., ~ situation as well. professor, thank ou ve situation as well. professor, thank you very much _ situation as well. professor, thank you very much for _ situation as well. professor, thank you very much for being _ situation as well. professor, thank you very much for being with - situation as well. professor, thank you very much for being with us i situation as well. professor, thank i you very much for being with us here on bbc news. you very much for being with us here on bbc newe— the uk health secretary, matt hancock, has denied lying to his colleagues and to the public about dealing with covid in care homes, saying he's been "straight with people" throughout the pandemic. yesterday, the prime minister's former special adviser, dominic cummings, said mr hancock should have been sacked for lying on multiple occasions, but he has hit back saying the allegations are untrue. here's our political editor laura kuennsberg. the accusations were grave... tens o

the biden administration stopping a state department inquiry into the wuhan institute of virology as cause and catalyst of covid-19 pandemic. inquiry started by former secretary mike pompeo last fall and the administration says, they were, quote, concerned of the quality of its work despite handing reins to the world health organization. markets this morning are pointing a gain at the start of trading. s&p 500 higher by 11 and a quarter. dow industrials down by 81 and s&p giving up 9 points at 4:00 o'clock on wall street. the ten-year treasury is below 1.6% mouth day in a row. we are watching interest rates this morning. european markets this morning are flat. take a look at european indices where we see markets finishing mostly higher. asian indices up pretty much across the board. kospi down just a frank. mornings with maria live right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ maria: now, some of the top stories that we are watching this morning. senate republicans are working on their own spending bill and focused only on infrastructure. it's in response to biden administration $1.7 trillion proposal, gop

they worked in the wuhan institute. we're told this came from a market lab where exotic animals, not one animal tested positive for the virus . so we have an amendment opwe're hoping that will be eadopted by this funny that says gain of function research as defined by the nih in 2014 will not be permitted in china. we will not fund it with american dollars. but it's like so much waste in government, i think there's no reason to be sending any money to china for research. there are rich country, for goodness sakes we're worried about them out competing us and stealing our intellectual property and we send them millions ofdollars to do research . the money you trust them, but not in the lab. i think without question showed you are sick. no more money should go to china for research on gain of function which means increasing the purulent or prodigious city or the transmissibility of viruses to humans. i urge this funny to adopt my amendment which says from here on out, china doesn't get any money to create super viruses in

about the possibility that this virus had come from a lab in wuhan, they became hostile and hysterical. in a post on the national instituteshealth web site, francis collins who should know better dismissed all questions about a lab leak in wuhan as "outrageous," like you were sinful for asking the question. they were not outrageous, they were entirely plausible. last fall, we spoke to someone with firsthand knowledge of the subject, an eminent chinese virologist who worked on covid in china in the early days of the pandemic. she was certain based on what she had seen that this virus came from a lab in wuhan. on september 15th, 2020, came on the show and said so. >> scientific evidence to our audience that this virus covid-19 actually is not from nature. a high work with the premier virologist in the world so together, i can tell you this is created in a lab, this is from and owned by the chinese military and also it has spread to the world make damage. >> tucker: to make such damage. do you believe the chinese government released this intentionally, on purpose, did they do this? >> yes, of course intentionally. >> tucker:

fauci's rhetoric. >> do you still support sending money to the wuhan virology institute. >> we do notu support the money that was going to the wuhan institute. >> that may explain why that was done, the sars kobe one originated in batson china it would've been irresponsible u of us if we did not investigate the bad viruses in the serology to see. liz: dr. fauci excuse me with all due respect that's not the issue this virus has yet to be found in nature it mutates that it's natural when it's not nicholas wade said it was bioengineered it was reverse engineered and it looks like again the scientist cannot find them. senator rand paul says china's top scientist that wuhan lab admitted research paper saying yeah she got money from a dr. fauci agency to do the researchor these viruses are not organic they do not appear in nature scientist cannot find them. >> >>at the point where began te rapid transition from bat to human, why was there no evidence of that forehand why didn't nov on the one day in december of 2019, this is a question when we first encountered this illness a briefing from