through a lab accident, a lab leak, as you'd say because where it emerged so close to the wuhan institute of virologylf is not enough. you need hard evidence. i have reported on many outbreaks of new diseases, including covid—19's distant cousin mers in saudi arabia. there is always politics and pressure. but the blame game is now severely impacting the science. it was china's fault and china's going to pay a big price. scapegoating china cannot whitewash the us. we travelled to rotterdam to meet one of the scientists who was on the who organised mission to wuhan to study the origins of the pandemic, and spoke to her australian colleague who was also on the controversial trip. the more we argue about the politics, the slower the science takes to get done. more than 4.5 million people have died from this virus. we owe them and their families answers. i am marion koopmans. i'm a professor of virology. i am marion koopmans. i have been part of the origins mission international team because of my expertise on viruses at the human—animal interface and virus transmission studies. i have read about pandemic

laboratory accident, a laboratory leak, as you say, because when it emerged so close to the wuhan institute of virologye highest level of experiments with dangerous viruses to humans, and also because we have not had a full audit in transparency from the chinese government, nor found an intermediary animal host that would explain the virus. questions have also been raised about what exactly type of research was going on at the wuhan institute of virology, which had received some funding from the us. there have been claims scientist may have been carrying out controversial studies where viruses are manipulated and potentially made more contagious. yes, i believe those experiments were going on because that is what we found out and try to understand viruses. china has called these claims pure lies. the spill—over is probably more likely but there is a significant possibility nonetheless that the lab was involved in some way, shape orform. the international scientists on the joint who mission said they did ask their chinese counterparts whether these experiments were happening and whether any of the staff

we need to make sure no dollars from the united states go to the wuhan institute of virology even today. will: laura: the white house response to questions about china sending more military jets over the skies of i. this is how it went down in the white house briefing room today. >> beijing to cease military, diplomatic and economic pressure directed at taiwan. >> china has dial-up sending more military jets. what does that say about possibility of us deterrence? >> the secretary of state spoke to this earlier. i don't have anything to add to what he said. laura: one line to describe that response. >> week, tepid and against the backdrop of the disaster that was afghanistan, the russian pipeline that was permitted, iranian missiles flew into the gaza strip, xi jinping sees that with respect to taiwan we need to do a lot more than a simple sentence to the chinese communist party. we need to make clear the united states is not going to expect xi jinping's desire to as he calls it reunify taiwan. laura: do you think the silent surrender is happening? is that what it looks like to you? >> i

this letter clearly says that the wuhan institute of virology did do gain of function research.ing well the particular virus that we funded, you know, wasn't coronavirus 2, but it was another virus could easily have become more dangerous than coronavirus. elizabeth: putting spike proteins and frankenstein research, putting spike protein in another bat virus. that is gain of function. that is why people are scared about the vaccine t all traces back to this. we know dr. fauci has served the country. he worked on the aids crisis. a documentary says he was trump advertised by that, we get it. why the stonewalling? why constantly frustrating the american people on this issue? >> well again i think it is because they didn't want to get caught actually funding something that may well have resulted in covid. the evidence is now becoming more clear that the wuhan institute of virology was in fact attaching spike proteins to other viruses which make them more effective. that is exactly gain of function. this is what we suspected all along and i think this is another nail in the coffin th

possibility, but this sars-cov2 virus is bats, they don't have horseshoe bats other than the wuhan institute of virologythe wuhan institute of virology has largest collection of bat coronavirus and was doing aggressive research designed to make those viruses better able to infect human cells and then when the virus shows up it's very well prime for human to human transmission on top of that there have been nearly a hundred thousand resequences off intermediate host and we don't have a smoking gun but there's a gun laying on the table and when we touch it it's warm. eric: what about a wet market that it jumped from some animal in wet market in wuhan. >> i think it's a lie that china told in the earliest days to have pandemic, by late january 2020 it was clear through a paper in that more than a third of the earliest cases were people who had no infection -- people had no exposure to that market so it's pretty clear from early on that the market was a place where an amplification happened and not where this started and for me that was a big tell that the china government from january until may of last yea

the genetic tools for making the virus patented in 2013, how those tools were used by the wuhan institute of virology, to create the virus and make it in fact human cells. this is all public information now and so we know how this gain-of-function research was done and who did it. >> laura: and u.s. dollars going to groups that were involved with the one lab. gentlemen, great to see you tonight. shocking new documents shed new light on covid's possible origins as we were just discussing. documents were obtained by the analysis group that said they will hand lab planned on creating an entirely new type of coronavirus by splicing together those genetic sequences of viruses found in nature. well that risky and frankly reckless proposal was submitted by none other than peter -- back of the eco-health alliance to the u.s. defense department back in 2018. joining me now as former secretary of state mike pompeo. secretary pompeo, that was during the trump administration. the dod never did fund this plan, but this guy was so close to the wuhan lab, working with the wuhan lab and knowing there is safety issue

came from but again, we have not funded gain-of-function research on this virus in the wuhan institute of virologyng of words? the nih letter is very careful but it sounds like some gain-of-function research was being done. dr. fauci has said not gain-of-function research with what led to covid-19. >> rand paul is absolutely correct about this. i think dr. fauci lied. there are documents that show that the nih was informed about this research in 2018, 2019, and 2020. and so for him to go on and confidently tell congress this has never happened after he knew that was subject of his testimony, think of concerning and also very telling that to merrick garland today had no comment as to whether fauci supplies should be prosecuted or not. at the end of the situation my main concern here is that when government officials responsible for public health constantly lie and obfuscate and try to manipulate, people are going to lose confidence in public health, and that is exactly the situation that we are seeing with vaccine mandates and other issues. people are not trusting the government and so we have to h

the national institutes of health acknowledged it funded research of a virus studied at the wuhan institute of virologyectedly, we're told, made a bad coronavirus more contagious than the original naturally occurring one. but we're also told this was not covid-19. dr. fauci says it's, quote, molecularly impossible that the virus, which has killed almost 5 million people worldwide, was the same one funded by the nih. cnn's kristen holmes breaks down now all of this debate that started between a fiery exchange between senator rand paul and dr. fauci which also then led to the nih disclosure. >> a new letter raising questions about experiments in a wuhan lab and sparking republican outrage. for years the national institutes of health provided grant money to the ecohealth alliance research group, which conducted experiments with bat coronaviruses in wuhan, china. republicans have claimed the federally funded research could have started the coronavirus pandemic. an allegation health experts say is impossible. >> anybody that knows anything about viral biology and viruses know that it is molecularly impossib

with our allies, break into north korea's missile program, why can we not get inside the wuhan institute of virologyy to that, doctor? >> you know, david is a fellow, but he's exactly right in the sense that all of the answers, the absolute answers are, inside that institution. my work has shown that we don't need to get inside the institution to answer these questions. that's an important thing that people realize. there's a lot of kicking the can down the road. after two years we've done a lot of studies. all of the evidence points to the laboratory. there's no evidence that supports a natural origin at this point. so i think we're done with the investigation at this point. >> martha: you think you're done? you think you can conclusively say it leaked from the lab in wuhan? >> yeah, i think there's no animal after studying 80,000 a one in a million probability. there's no infections in humans in 10,000 blood samples that were taken. again, we were expecting 400. that is also one in a million probability. the three things, the animal, the virus and the human all point to a laboratory accident. i th

wuhan. agencies can come to any conclusion put out for additional information, china has not been helpful. part of the justification the lab leak theory is the fact that employees from wuhan institute of virologythe same city in china for the first of the cases were discovered in 2019 conducted research on other coronavirus us in the past. lawmakers such as senator tom cotton at the start of the pandemic. lawmakers don't think it's a coincidence. many gop lawmakers questioned doctor fauci and others for using taxpayer dollars to fund gain of function research wuhan lab increased transmissibility. >> the real question is not whether it was a gain of function, it's just what was it? was funded, what was happening in the wuhan map and that's what we need to get to the bottom of. >> reports has china's cooperation most likely would be needed to reach a conclusion in the assessment of the origins of covid. patient continues to hinder the global investigation, resist sharing information and blaming other countries including the united states. the report states one thing with certainty, china did not unleash covid as a biological weapon. jon: lucas, thank you. after major league baseball was the all-

all kinds of information that he had that we didn't have about what was happening at the wuhan institute of virology the echo health alliance, his organization in partnership with wuhan institute of virology and university of north carolina that had made an application to genetically alter coronavirus that predicted the sars covid 2. if applied for funding for painting park purple and you didn't give me the funding and you wake up and central park had been painted, i wonder who did it. so there are a lot of big questions and rather than being totally transparent and leading efforts to get to the bottom of what may have happened peter daszak has been part and parcel and blocked people like you and like me and called us conspiracy theorists and we need to get to the bottom of how this terrible pandemic started. this is ultimately about china and china's cover-up is outrageous but people like peter daszak are part of the problem and that's why we have called for the echo health alliance to do -- the board of echo health alliance to do full investigation of peter's behavior. we think it will likely just

the wuhan institute of virology, and the wuhan university of science and technology, also -- cdc.ak, we don't know what it was. you're right about tcr tests. but when you hear the organizations buying the pcr tests, they were doing the coronavirus research and gain of function research. that is who was studying it. your final word? >> you are hitting it. as ratcliff said where there was smoke there is fire. there are all areas of smoke. we can do another half hour, liz, i take you right up to why i believe this outbreak came from a lab. whether it was accidental or not they certainly tried to cover it up afterwards and have been completely non-compliant were us to get to the bottom of where the covid-19 virus came from. >> we're probably never going to know but when you start putting it together as you have, congressman, it sure looks like you know, the pandemic started in, of course in china but how it started right? and when it started and china's coverup, potentially killing a lot of people worldwide. that is what people want china to step up about. congressman brad wenstrup, t

how did this virus get started in china, that our funding of that research in the wuhan institute of virology million miles away to draw that connection is absolutely not supportable by the data. >> he says it is time for a new vision. idaho governor visiting the border, his lieutenant governor issues an executive order banning vaccine mandates. dennis been required covid testing, would rescind any executive orders while he is away saying in part, duly elected governor of idaho. to act on my behalf. he issued several executive orders when governor little was out of state. >> the largest private healthcare provider touting his 100% vaccination rate but the hospital system hit the mark after firing 1400 and vaccinated workers. joining me now 3 of those, john matlin, abigail gray and karen gross, thanks to the 3 of you for being here, sorry it is under the circumstances. were you a danger to patients by being vaccinated? >> unless you are a science denier that can't be true. it is well-documented at this point anyone who's vaccinated can indeed still get and transmit the virus so it is still goi

the oversight committee saying, essentially, gain of function research was done at the wuhan institute of virologyom the nih despite multiple times testifying by dr. a few under oath saying that -- dr. fauci saying that the nih did not fund any form of gain of function research, so, uh-oh. >> remember, we saw rand paul questioning him on that over and over again, and he denied it, but turns out it's true, i guess. david? >> well, again, they're going to say it was directly or indirectly they didn't know about it, but they should have said maybe. >> yes, yes. david, let's do it quick, david. >> what can i say. all right. so hi if flop of the week -- my flop of the week, the state department's international pronoun day celebration. the official twitter account, and i quote: today on international pronouns days, we share why many people use pronounce on their mail and social media platform. for those who would like to have a little english language fun, there's more than a hundred official pronouns, and until now, none of them were used for your own personal identifier -- >> that's it, folks -- jon:

republicans are pushing for democrats to investigate whether this pandemic began in nature or the wuhan institute of virologysearch at the lab republican on the house foreign affairs claimant as veterans reports to a leak from the wuhan institute of virology the biden had an inconclusive intelligence review and different to the w.h.o. investigation the washington post editorial board wrote the initial efforts such as a joint china w.h.o. mission in the u.s. intelligence community report raised more questions and the answer no investigation will succeed as long as china's doors remain shut the silence is deafening, some republicans called for sanctions and penalties against china for refusing an independent investigation some are calling for a boycott to next year's olympics. neil: thank you very much this does follow a pattern according to our ambassador poll about xi jinping in the quest for chinese secrecy, take a look. >> they are quite willing to hurt themselves economically and financially in their markets going after the biggest success stories and tamping them down i don't know if wall street apprecia

nonprofit and its sub award the wuhan institute of virology, were engaged in risky experiments and the nih may not have been fully aware of these activities. the reports outline experiments in which researchers made clones of the virus responsible for the deadly 2012 outbreak of middle east respiratory syndrome or mers and give it properties of other viruses found in bats. similar reports earlier this year led to this test the exchange on capitol hill between senator rand paul and dr. anthony fauci. >> you take an animal virus and you increase and transmit ability to humans, you're saying that's not gain of function? >> that is correct, senator paul, you do not know what you're talking about. >> the virus outlined in the grant reports are unrelated to covid-19. nevertheless, top scientists including dr. fauci and his boss, nih director francis collins, say they cannot rule out the theory of the pandemic was the result of a laboratory accident without more cooperation from the chinese government. back in the u.s., florida governor ron desantis announce he will convene a special session

committee reported this summer that the evidence shows the pandemic began with a leak from the wuhan institute of virologyand commerce committee are asking whether the biden state department agrees with trump state officials claims about that lab. they wrote secretary of state antony blinken this week quote this is a very straightforward request and we would appreciate a direct answer on whether the state department continues to maintain that the wiv has collaborated on secret projects with china's military. a spokesperson says the state department refuses to comment on congressional correspondence that the administration will work with the world health organization on its investigation and claims the u.s. will keep chinese government for access. bret? >> bret: ich edson. thank you. a house committee heard election on maricopa county, arizona. organizers said session to examine how audits undermine public confidence and i couldn't know mine democracy. last month a public review of the maricopa found that joe biden did defeat former president donald trump in the county and in arizona. the ceo of the compan

taxpayer funding went to gain-of-function research, as you were just referencing at the wuhan institute of virologyere likely the covid pandemic originated. he has tried to cancel football games and told us we can't have parties, has tried to cancel holidays. now he's telling us he doesn't even know if we can have christmas again this year, and then you look at this experimentation on the beagles, and the use beagles, by the way, because of their temperament, because they don't generally fight back as much as other dogs whenever they are put through this torturous process. his dogs were first debarked, which means they cut their vocal cords so they couldn't cry out in pain when they were being tortured to death, and then as you just described, horrifically put in a box with sand flies to eat them alive. now, i don't know anywhere else other than washington, d.c., full of a bunch of swampy people where you cannot perform well in your job and keep your job as dr. fauci has for so long, but if there was any reason we need to get rid of the sky, it has republicans, democrats, and everybody in between o

there are a lot of scientists and researchers working with the wuhan institute of virology, based in ing on and it's journalists that have had to submit foi requests, not even journalists, some not for profit groups, the u.s. right to know group, for scraps of information and most of it is redacted and they need to file lawsuits to get some unredacted e-mails. so this is really a big problem. we need to be having a proper inquiry. there should be a presidential commission. these people should be subpoenaed. e-mails, records should be subpoenaed. 5 million people have died. it's going to be as many as in world war ii soon. what will it take before we have an inquiry. >> well, great job with your work. maria: not only that, but they don't even inquire about the coverup. we know that china covered this up. in march of 2020, i was on the air saying there are ships on their way to the united states and they were told to turn around because china wants that ppe equipment. you reported it as well. there's been a major coverup from the ccp and yet this administration seems not to need any ans

does not ever and does not now fund gain of function research at the wuhan institute of virology. i'll repeat, the n.i.h. has categorically not had gain of function research at the wuhan institute of virology. in a hearing he said, senator paul, i have never lied before the congress and i do not retract that statement. this paper that you are referring to was judged by a qualified staff up and down the chain is not mean gain of function. what do we now know? we know that n.i.h. did in fact fund gain of function research at the wuhan lab. ecohealth alliance manipulated a coronavirus to generate up to 10,000 times the viral load, violating provisions of the national institutes of health contract that forebayed unregulated research that could make a disease significantly more dangerous or transmissible. that quote was in the right-wing conspiracy media paper, "roll ma letter that ecohealth alliance, which received money from the agency because they made the virus more deadly. dr. fauci said because the research wasn't gained to function, it was approved. why, then, did the agency know

that there were dollars given to the ecohealth alliance, which funded we search at the wuhan institute of virology. and over 600,000 dollars of that taxpayer money was partially used by the wuhan lab to find an altar bat coronaviruses that could jump to humans and infect them. why are we not having a hearing on this? in fact, i was just a few hours ago today, at a meeting with the prime minister of australia. one of the things we talked about was the origins of covid. and in fact, he, the prime minister of australia, called for an investigation into the origin of this virus into the over a year ago, mister chairman. he didn't say that he suspected where it started. ed whe said shouldn't we investigate it? and you know it happened after that? china got into a trade war into australia over that question. just over that question. maybe that's guilt on that part, saying, maybe we will look into this disease, that has killed hundreds of thousands of americans, millions of globally. as soon as you say that china engaged in a trade war with australia. but at least australia did not back down, mister chai

the republicans say the evidence points to this pandemic starting with a leak from the wuhan institute of virologyte department agrees with the trump state officials who claimed what was going on at the wuhan lab and wrote secretary blinken. this is a straightforward request. we appreciate a direct answer on whether the state department maintains they collaborated on secret projects with china's military. they have not commented. they are pushing for a new investigation into how this started. the w.h.o. is renewing those efforts. >> sandra: a lot of red flag. thanks, rich. >> mike: president biden just moments away from landing in chicago to push vaccine mandates for businesses. a new poll shows him under water in every category. do his words carry any weight if had most americans think he is doing a bad job. bret baier weighs in on the next hour. i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans because i know there's so many of you who have served our country honorably. whether it's 2 years, 4 years, or 32 years like myself. one of the benefits that we as a country give our veterans is eli

to the health organization eco health alliance, which funded coronavirus research at the wuhan institute of virology and that$600,000 of taxpayer money was partially used by the wuhan lab to find and alter coronaviru coronaviruses that could jump to humans and infect them. why are we not having a hearing on this? i was in a meeting with the prime minister of australia, and one of the things we talked about was the origins of covid. and, in fact, he, the prime minister of australia, called for an investigation into the origin of this virus over a year ago, mr. chairman. over a year ago. he didn't say he suspected where it started. he said shouldn't we investigate it? do you know what happened after that? china actually got into a trade war with australia over that question, just the question of where it started. maybe there might be a little guilt on their part that just raising the question of saying, we're going to look into where this disease that killed over 600,000 americans, millions globally, started from so we can prevent it from happening again. and as soon as you say that, china engaged in

whether or not direct dollars went to the wuhan institute of virology, we know they are giving money y to wuhan institute, who does gain of function research. john, again, what recently came forth from the n.i.h., they wrote a letter to the oversight committee showing there was a grant that was given through eco health. they have done many grants. eco health did not disclose they did identify ability to infect ace two receptors and it caused worsening disease in the mice and increased growth. this is what would be considered under gain of function research and they were supposed to disclose it and did not. they said they have given eco health five days to publish all data comes from the research study under the grant proposal. will they do it? i don't know. >> john: that moment in congress, rand paul and dr. fauci were having it out with each other, listen here. >> senator paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the n.i.h. has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the wuhan institute. >> john: doctor, how does that statement sta

part of the justification for the lab leaks theory, the fact that the employees of the wuhan institute of virologyed, had conducted these in the past. many don't think that's a coincidence. and many have questioned dr. fauci and others for gain of function at the wuhan lab for question of accessibility. >> and the real question was or wasn't gain of function? what was it? what was happening in the wuhan lab. that's what we need to get to the bottom of. >> china would need to cooperate, however, beijing hinders the global investigation, resists information sharing and blames other countries including the united states. the report does say one thing with certainty, it says that china did not unleash covid as a biological weapon. anita: not the end of this story, lucas. i have a feeling we'll be hearing more about this. thank you for the live report. griff: anita, did you disturbing details out, how many people handled that gun before alec baldwin pulled the trigger and how many protocols were ignored next. paul loves food. but his diabetes made food a mystery. everything felt like a "no". but then p

so what we did was when patients were sampled in december at a hospital in wiewg wuhan sample institute of virologyre on american technology actually and made that subsequent machine that generate copies of neferg everything in the sample and generates copies everything in the laboratory so we actually found 20 different things that shouldn't have been in the patient. we found honeysuckle gene the plant so what i did was i looked at research publications from the virology over last two years i was able to identify 18 out of 20 samples soarnghted associated with prier publication and we found it -- found about a third of the virus in a vector as it is called which is a tool that scientists use in laboratory to make large copies of something as if they make a vaccine or make something else. and this is pretty unmistakable. this is a smoking gun for the nipa virus this is what you expect to see at say two years ago for sars-cov 2. >> so doctor, actually it must concern you that this lab has a history of safety violations especially given the now relatively sure that coronavirus covid leak there and wo

summer claiming the preponderance of evidence points to covid-19 starting as a leak from the wuhan institute of virology. intelligence community's report was inconclusive. the next step the administration is pointsing to the w.h.o. investigation that china is blocking. some republicans and former administration officials say the u.s. should sanction the chinese government for its failure to participate in this investigation. we're watching at the state department. >> dana: we will, too. thank you. >> bill: want to bring in republican congressman mike gallagher member of the house armed services committee representing his home state of wisconsin. the headline. "washington post" put the headline up. to prevent the next pandemic we must find the source of covid-19. china's stonewalling is unacceptable. no one outside of the chinese communist party who would disagree with that. the world health organization is kidding themselves. they have been blocked repeatedly trying to get to the origins of covid-19. you will have the olympics in beijing in four months and the world will be invited back to china without

question is unrelated to covid-19 it raises concerns about operations in general at the wuhan institute of virologyor collins says he believes the virus that causes covid-19 developed naturally in animals and eventually spread to humans but he says without more cooperation from the chinese government, you can't completely rule out the laboratory leak theory. dana. >> dana: unlikely that cooperation is coming. thank you, jonathan. trace. >> trace: attorney general merrick garland faced tough questions on capitol hill on the growing list of issues the justice department is facing including the crisis at the southern border and controversial memo directing the feds to help address threats against educators. he also faced questions on hunter biden's art sales which led to this exchange with congressman ken buck. watch. >> will you appoint a special counsel to investigate hunter biden? >> i'm not able to respond to questions about investigations of the former president or of anyone else. i'm not able to discuss any investigations pending or. >> you work for the department of justice for 15 years and are

they should be demanding answers on what happened to bats at the wuhan institute of virology, let's learneat point. james: what was done to the bats and how it was done to the bats and who funded it, would seem to me a big animal related cause they might want to get behind. maria: that is such a great point, james. and by the way, where is the outrage from everybody else in the world, other countries that there is no investigation and lack of honesty out of the ccp on the origins of covid? we will stay on this. apple's biggest sales miss, supply chain crunch and how the vaccine mandates are making the worker shortage worst. top investors are watching your money with the word on wall street starts after this, mornings with maria live on fox business. ♪ ♪ ♪ . . . an official message from medicare. did you try it yet? comparing plans? oh yeah. they sure can change year to year. i found lower premiums and lower prescription costs. that'll save you money. so uh, mark? on medicare.gov now. open enrollment ends december 7th use the plan finder at medicare.gov to compare medicare health and presc

as you mentioned not profit group getting funding from nih and some of that went to the wuhan institute of virologyneed a full examination into the origins of the pandemic. steve: absolutely. but, nonetheless, and you have seen dr. fauci on television, when he is up on capitol hill. he is very defensive. and he is adamant. and as you put it earlier, they have -- the lawyers, at nih have narrowly defined what gain of function research is. and apparently he feels that they are within that lane. but, nonetheless, the american public needs to know that the united states government, you know, gave these grants to this organization that put money in the hands of these people. >> yes. no, that's exactly right. that's why we need a full investigation and in some ways, i think this binary question of gain of function research was it or wasn't it is really a bit of a side show. what we need to know is what happened, what role did the united states government play and most importantly what was happening in china. >> ultimately what it comes down to you can be on television calling for transparency but until c

agency finding wuhan institute of virology applied three years ago for a $14 million grant to, quote: in gain of function research. a homeowner goes to extreme lengths to keep people off their lawn. watch. >> when people won't stop cutting across your lawn, set up an automatic sprinkler. jillian: it's unclear where the footage was taken but it has divided social media as everything does. some calling the move unkind while another said they, quote: love the pettiness. it's your lawn, do as you wish. it's kind of funny. outside of where i live there are sprinklers that come on and the grass weird times and i'm always -- always happen to be walking levi is someone out here doing this on purpose? now i wonder. steve: one of our neighbors has got one of those gizmos that has got a sensor ton so if an animal comes in the yard it's supposed to shoe them away. ainsley: do you think sprinklers in your front yard you would watch, you knew when you could go. once it hit these bushes i would just dart to the driveway. brian: then i would run to the pharmacy and get a ham sandwich and some ana c n

fauci said the nih has not ever and does not now fund gain of function at the wuhan institute of virology. on october 20th, the nih principal deputy director in writing directly contradicted it. those two statements cannot be true. as you know, section 1001 of title 18 makes it a federal crime to knowingly make false statements to congress. is the department of justice investigating dr. fauci for lying to congress? >> i'm going to say, again, the memorandum that i issued is not partisan in any way. it has nothing to do with what i agree with or i don't agree with. i don't care whether the threats of violence come from the left or the right. >> could you answer the question i asked? >> we don't comment on criminal investigations or other investigations -- >> amazingly, when it's the political enemies of the administration, you comment loudly in a memo. let me ask one other question -- >> president biden recently said in a national town hall that police officers who declined to get vaccinated should be fired. do you agree with president biden on that? >> i think all police officers -- look,

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