if he had read my book, i have the ten worst wussy things politicians can do and number one is ask forrom something that you voted against, and he's my first example. he wrote a letter to the seco secretary of energy and labor asking for money out of the obama stimulus after he said he doesn't. and then secondly, this new revelation, he was a strong supporter of president bush's stimulus, for all the right reasons. because stimulus does help short-term economic growth and job creation. but now, when it's president obama that wants to do it, he's against it. he's coming across as a little bit of a fraud. and in politics, that's really bad with everyone except your base. >> now, michael, you and i debate all the time, but for ed rendell, the voice of reason, to call someone shifty and a fraud, i mean, don't you think you should have given paul ryan his book? >> probably. chapter one, page one. i -- there's some legitimacy to what the good governor says there. i think, from the standpoint that, and it goes back to something i said, rev, when we talked about it on your show when ryan was a