i am the ambassador for wwf. i want to get a good message out there and encourage the next generation to be excited. tavis: i assume that you mean the world wildlife federation. that is little joke. >> i know, i know is a distinction. [laughter] tavis: rita skeeter is no more. the "harry potter," series is coming to an end. >> man, i know. tavis: you like the magical stuff? >> i do like the magical stuff. it sparked the imagination. tavis: it was a good run. $8 billion run. >> not for me. [laughter] tavis: good to have you on the program. >> thank you for having me. tavis: thank you for joining us. until next time, keep the face -- keep the faith. tavis: hi, i'm tavis smiley. join me next time for a conversation with george packer of "the new yorker." >> all i know is his name is james, and he needs extra help with his reading. >> i'm james. >> yes. >> to everyone making a difference -- >> thank you. >> you help us all live better. >> nationwide insurance supports tavis smiley. with every question and answer, nat

. >> like from the wwf? tavis: it is a great name in the business that you're in now. >> yes, it is. tavis: it works. the name works. the movie works. it is called "bad teacher" starring one lucy punch alongside cameron diaz and justin timberlake. good to have you on the program. that's our show for tonight. thanks for watching. as always, keep the faith. >> for more information on today's show, visit tavis smiley at pbs.org. tavis: hi. i'm tavis smiley. join me next time for a conversation with environmental advocate robert kennedy jr. that's next time. we'll see you then. >> all i know is his name is james, and he needs extra help with his reading. >> i am james. >> yes. >> to everyone making a difference -- >> thank you. >> you help us all live better. >> nationwide insurance supports tavis smiley. with every question and every answer, nationwide insurance is proud to join tavis in working to improve financial literacy and removing obstacles to empowerment one conversation at a time. nationwide is on your

. >> is that wwf? advocating. i'm kidding. >> can he take us back at that moment when you're in 10th grade, mrs. lakeside school, north of seattle. it was the lake? why did you think you guys would click? all right, the sky is interesting. >> well, there's some pictures of the and me together slaving over a hot ansari 33 teletype, which their are some examples downstairs, but they are not hot. that can probably be fixed. >> yeah, and i just remember bill used to wear saddle shoes and sweaters. he walks in a very gangly young man. after a few weeks after the terminal without our high school, there were a few of us that were just almost hold in our way to get time on the terminal. bill was one of them and i was one of them and they were a few others. at the end of the month, they would post up kind of a horrifying list of how much money you've run up on the time-sharing service. and bill and i were always up there at the time. you think, how my going to explain to my parents $68 on time-sharing, you know? so that wa

i mean, especially working with the wwf. that was a huge empire that, you know, became even bigger, and it was rock and roll. it was like being married to a rock star. >> and, of course, as the book details, his behavior became pretty similar to that of most rock stars. i mean, let's be brutally frank. you had to go through the infidelity, the lying, control issues an all the rest of it. very similar to the kind of stuff you read about the average rock star. it's a very honest book you have written. do you feel that the relationship basically floundered the moment you heard he had been unfaithful to you? >> yeah. i mean, honestly i put my heart and soul into the marriage. we started out with, you know, nothing really. i met him, i didn't know what he did. he really wasn't famous. we hadden in the "rocky 3" movie and i thought, wow, that's exciting, but i saw a good person in him in the beginning, and i still do today. i just think with the men in those positions as like you're seeing in the news how with the politicians and