senator wyden. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i think it's been a good hearing, mr. chairman, and i think we've sort of had a wake-up call for just how tough this is going to be to actually write a bill, and let me start, if i might, for the last five years i've worked with two very thoughtful conservatives here in the senate, senator gregg and now senator coates and another democrat senator begich and we've produced a tax reform bill. it's modelled after the '86 legislation where you clean out a lot of the clutter, hold down the rates and keep progressivity, and it's been joined by the tax committee as essentially generating revenue. one of the toughest parts of actually sitting down, and senator gregg and i spent week after week after week for almost two years, was dealing with these issues that we're talking about here today, the energy question, and i came to those discussions saying, highlighting a point we've heard this morning, that natural gas is a huge, strategic american advantage. i mean, people ought to understand that right at the get-go, and we ought to

all the battle for internet freedom is crossing the political divide democratic senator ron wyden and republican representative darrell issa have put political differences aside to make a bill of rights for the internet let's take a look at the top three freedom digital citizens have a right to a free censored internet second once there is openness digital citizens have a right to an open unobstructed internet and then there is a quality digital citizens are created equal and the on the internet now both lawmakers were instrumental in defeating sopa and pipa both bills that critics say strip citizens of their online freedoms and privacy and now they're pushing for this bill of rights wyden has been a staunch critic of these bills where he here he is on the floor condemning these cyber intelligence security protection act better known as sista. it creates uncertainty in place of trust it or wrote erode statutory and constitutional civil rights protections and it creates a surveillance regime in place of a target. cyber security program that is leading to truly protect our nation. so ca

getting numbers of congress, and senator wyden in particular terribly upset.m this information perhaps because they know how injurious it is if we understand what they're negotiating. >> let's put this in perspective. senator wyden is the chairman of the trade sub committee. that is the committee in the u.s. senate that has jurisdiction over the so-called trade agreement. they will not let him or his staff see the text. so when this text leaked this was the first time in three years of closed-door negotiations that the public, the press congress, got to see what is being done. now, there are 600 official u.s. corporate trade visors who have been in this process. so it's not a shocker though disgusting that you have such an extreme tax that would handcuff government and have this parallel corporate court system meanwhile something like that count happen if we had a look at it. we need to get all of the text out because who knows what is in the other chapters. >> eliot: i want to make sure that everybody understand what you just said. there are 600 corporate rep

in this day and age do we need a bill of rights for the internet that senators ron wyden and ice they're proposing as they warned about the rise of a civil cyber industrial complex while they were at the personal democracy forum in new york and the thing is they want your input see isis set up the website keep the web open dot com to crowd source ideas from internet users and the draft as it is contain some of the following principles like freedom digital citizens have a right to a free uncensored internet openness digital citizens have a right to an open unobstructed internet and a quality all digital citizen citizens are created equal on the internet now there are many more innocent said you can check out the whole thing online but you asked me if think it's unfortunate that we've gotten to this point where so many forces are trying to control our use of the web but do we actually need an internet bill of rights here to discuss it with me as julian sanchez research fellow at the cato institute joined thanks so much for joining us tonight always a pleasure what do you say i mean do we n

go for full votes but the timing is also especially disturbing because just yesterday senators ron wyden and mark udall said that they received a response from the national security agency whom they had asked for a number a simple number of how many persons inside the u.s. have been spied on by the n.s.a. and the n.s.a. responded with perhaps the most ridiculous argument that i have ever heard they said they can't tell the two senators because telling them would violate your privacy so since when is the n.s.a. care about privacy well joining me to discuss that is aaron swartz executive director of demand progress aaron nice to have you back on the show tonight and i guess first let me just ask you do you find this is absurd and as disturbing as i do this whole argument of theirs that really it's all for your privacy. well it's good to see you again i think this one really is pretty funny it's even funnier if you read the actual letter they sent the senators when they said we thought about your request the whole n.s.a. leadership discussed it and we decided it would be a serious privacy i

thank you senators murkowski, wyden as well. you asked what is the current landscape of china's investment and it's been delineated a little bit by the last two speakers. i chi china is committed to achieving air superiority aircraft as part of its pivot to asia. that is to say, the united states air force is not thinking of turning to european or asian suppliers to supply its number one strike aircraft. developing leadership is the highest national security. and china is not thinking of it in their comparative advantage. i say that because it has to inform, then, our own response to china. and i want to emphasize, not just china. i remember in february of 2009 i was invited to a white house meeting to discuss the future of green technology in the obama administration. and there was a debate between those who in the administration who wanted to become proactive with various kinds of incentives to promote green energy and other market -- traditionally, market-oriented officials who argue that we don't want winners and lose hers,

. >> senator wyden? >> thank you. it's been an excellent hearing. very good witnesses and let me start by saying, i think the principle question for our panel and for our challenge in the days ahead is how our country is going to respond to what has been described as some experts as china's green mercantilism. there's a new paper out this morning and i would ask for consent to put it into the record that they in the paper define green mercantilism as essentially policies that give other countries an unfair advantage in terms of our interests, allow them to boost their exports, limit imports of clean energy technologies, and mr. wolff, for me you really summed it up when you said in your testimony, you asked essentially, is it acceptable for chinese industrial policy to shape the u.s. economy? and i think that that sort of incorporates the essence of this issue with respect to green mercantilism and it also goes beyond the trade issue, which i think is important for us. i also chair the finance committee on international trade. i'm interested in expa

. >> with the chairman's indulgence, senator wyden, i'd like to commend you and your colleagues for your excellent work on tax reform. i think we all need to keep in mind that the tax reform act of 1986 was the result of another bipartisan effort, and i'd like to commend to you the consideration of taxes on energy use which is not part of what you just described. in order to have a truly level playing field, we need to recognize the environmental hidden costs associated with a combustion of fossil fuels. taxes based on energy use are going to favor renewables permanently. they are going to favor natural gas permanently. they are going to provide a fair tax on petroleum permanently, and they are going to recognize the hidden costs associated with coal. we're talking about 1.5% of the gdp for that kind of a level playing field. >> mr. hamm, quickly. >> good question on the double standard. things have always been double standards. >> very briefly, mr. hamm. i've got senators who want to speak. >> okay. you know, we brought a case here in d.c. at the commerce department one time when we was

laws to white house leaks and drones and syria and then senators ron wyden and dare i start trying to get you to help them write an internet bill of rights we're going to ask if we really need one and this week the supreme court kill havey is corpus for want of a detainee's we're going to all of that and more fee tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look with the mainstream media decided to miss. well today attorney general eric holder had to testify on the hill and so the mainstream media was all over it eric holder on the hill in just minutes the nation's attorney general.

we can because we're starting to see members of congress are really standing up to this a senator wyden who is the chair of the subcommittee that has jurisdiction over our trade policy does not have access to this text and he wants to go to the corporations do but six hundred corporations do he introduce legislation blasting the administration saying and he's supports these types of agreements typically but he is saying this is an unprecedented level of secrecy that he will not abide by where and we're seeing that across the political spectrum that there's a serious concern about that if this is an agreement that's supposed to be a twenty first century agreement. we need to make sure that it is in green that that actually serves the people in the public as opposed to just the six hundred corporate advisors who have access to it. melinda thank you for the great work that you're doing thank you and for ringing the alarm bell it's really important time to ditch the so-called free trade the whole concept of global free trade get back to protecting our domestic manufacturers like we used to

longitudinal effort to see how things have turned out in relation to some of the questions senator wyden was asking before. with regard to the sgr question, i would hope that the answer would be more expansive and immediate reaction to sgr in isolation. i would hope there would be companion solutions that are suggested. and to the extent that those companion solutions are in their recommendations, a realistic assessment about whether or not many practices have the infrastructure, the technological capabilities, even the financial wherewithal to manage this new approach. >> thank you. >> i would echo. a couple of things for physicians. i think you got to get a transition from peace work system that they're in today. they're in a piecework system to one that more appropriately rewards their ability to coordinate care and performance. to me that's one of the biggest things we need to do with the system. >> dr. safran? >> i'd look for five things. i'd look for them to give you a model that moves from a focus on individual actors to a model that focused on organizations. i'd look to them to g

treaty agreement or whatever you want to label it should be publicly discussed in fact senator ron wyden addressed this issue during a senate finance committee hearing. looking over our shoulder with respect to whether or not we've done something that could cause an act of party nation to sue it's my question on this point is all over the world you've got parliaments and legislators having debates the people's representatives having debates on whether or not to pass act and why shouldn't the united states senate consider something like this is. aware that your hands parents see that on the worst part is that while americans are kept in the dark media corporations pharmaceutical companies we're all in the know working with governments on the agreement that we caught a hunch when washington decided it was going to start legislating on behalf of hollywood there anti-piracy attack dogs like the n.p.a. and are a pretty sure that american politicians knew better than to tell the world how they're making laws that benefit corporations and that's why we see people taking to the streets in europe

dangerous bill that would wipe out the internet internet freedoms that is as we know it senator ron wyden gave this morning on the house floor it creates uncertainty in place of trust in a rote erode statutory and constitutional civil rights protections and it creates a surveillance regime in place of a targeted nubile cyber security program that is leading to truly protect our nation. this fight these warnings it seems a possible threat to our online freedoms is largely ignored or accepted by most people but with so much of our lives being conducted on line why aren't people more bothered to discuss this and more i was joined by rob biscuits are managing editor of boing boing here is his take on the cyber cyber bills. i think the problem is that all of these different bills try to tackle the problem of a internet which is seen as being the wild west as you put it but the problem with these kind of problem solving is in government is it's too easy for these bills to be co-opted by commercial interests by because the interests of the intelligence services who would like more expensive acce

about everything from voter id laws to white house leagues and drones and syria and then senators ron wyden and dare i start trying to get you to help them write an internet bill of rights we're going to ask if we really need one and this week the supreme court kill havey is corpus for want of a detainee's were to have all of that and more free tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look what the mainstream media decided to miss. well today attorney general eric holder had to testify on the hill and so the mainstream media was all over it eric holder on the hill in just minutes the nation's attorney general is scheduled to take tough questions from congress turning general heads to capitol hill for another round of grilling he is also facing a vote to hold him in contempt of congress in contempt attorney general eric holder now facing a house vote on the investigation into the fast and furious gun operation the nation's top law enforcement official is getting ready to face some tough questions eric holder on the hot seat once again biggest issues for attorney general

passes to talk a little bit about the secrecy that's been surrounding this bill we know that senator wyden has been in the senate saying you know you're not even showing us anything about this bill that they tried to start a bill that would force them to show them more of the legislation that's going on why is this so secret from even the congress and the senate will you know the u.s. constitution in visions that the congress is actually going to be there. body setting our trade policy unfortunately the obama administration has put itself in the driver's seat and is holding all of the text very close to their chest they've in fact said that the thing is so controversial that if it were actually to be public that no one would want to support the bill so that's how they justify keeping congress and consumers and others in the dark so do you think that the secrecy had to do with this leak provision because of the implications that it could have. well i think that you know this is this is a clear example of you know this is exactly the kind of stuff that the administration should be putting on

never guess why they say dishing the information would have violate your privacy now senators ron wyden will and mark udall are asking what's really behind the big secret behind the fire as a report forms a foreign intelligence surveillance act a law was expanded back in two thousand and eight and allows the n.s.a. to spy on americans without a warrant here's the response of the senators and the inspector general of the intelligence committee after they sent a request to the n.s.a. for an estimate of just how many americans are really having their communications surveilled the letter says i defer to his conclusion that obtained such an estimate was beyond the capacity of his office and dedicated sufficient additional resources would likely impede the n.s.a.'s mission he further stated that the office and the same leadership agree that an i.g. review of the sort suggested itself violate the privacy of u.s. persons. so what is the big secret and what does this law mean for your privacy and your mccall director of ethics open government program joining me earlier i asked for the reason beh

you'll never guess why they say dishing that information would violate your privacy now senators ron wyden and mark udall are asking what's really behind the big secret behind the foreign intelligence surveillance act the law was expanded back in two thousand and eight and allows the n.s.a. to spy on americans without a warrant here's the response the senators received from the inspector general of the intelligence committee after they sent a request to n.s.a. for an estimate of how many americans are having their communications surveilled a letter says i defer to his conclusion that obtaining such an estimate was beyond the capacity of his office and dedicated to fission additional resources would likely end p. to the n.s.a.'s mission he further stated that his office and n.s.a. leadership agrees that an i.g. review of the sort suggested would itself violate the privacy of u.s. persons so what's the big secret and what does this law mean for your privacy joining me now is jim mccoll director with epix open government program. thanks for joining me ginger let's take it back to two thousand

in this day and age do we need a bill of rights for the internet lots of senators ron wyden and daryl ice that are proposing as they warned about the rise of a civil cyber industrial complex while they were at the personal democracy forum in new york and the thing is they want your input c.i. says set up the website keep the web open dot com to crowd source ideas from internet users and the draft as it is contain some of the following principles like freedom digital citizens have a right to a free uncensored internet openness digital citizens have a right to an open unobstructed internet and a quality all digital citizen sit.

in a report in "usa today" ron wyden says exporting gas could cause prices to export. >> he is here to talk about the economic consequences, congressman, great to have you on our show. explain in your own words why you think we need to keep natural gas here. >> natural gas is a domestic market where as oil is part of an international market. so for example, right now, natural gas in the united states is proximately six times less expensive than natural gas in asia, and four times less expensive than europe. what does that transfer to. if you're thinking about product, energy is the most important part. we have a huge advantage. secondly, we can begin to move natural gas into the automotive sector and oil to reduce or depend on oil from the committees. we can begin to think about a natural gas automotive marketplace. thirdly, the price for generating electricity in our country by natural gas will be lower, and that helps every industry with lower electricity of costs. so there are many reasons why this whole issue of this incredible bonanza that we have in natural gas should be exampled

wyden: madam president, i came to the floor to talk about legislating. i was struck, in fact, by some of the comments recently because what i'm here to talk about is essentially the yeoman bipartisanship that we have seen with senator stabenow and senator roberts on the farm bill, and i'm going to talk about some specific ideas, each of which i believe could win bipartisan support and help strengthen the legislation as we go forward here in the senate. now, madam president, i believe it's hard to overstate the importance of writing the best possible farm bill here in the senate. when america desperately needs more jobs and one in every 12 american jobs is tied to agriculture, this bill is an opportunity for the private sector to grow more jobs. when owe beas -- obesity rates are driving the america health care challenge, this bill can promote healthier eating without extra costs to taxpayers. when we're concerned about the threat to our treasured lands and air and water, this bill is our primary conservation program. when our rural communities are especi

the nsa made the assertion in response to request from democratic senators ron wyden and mark udall.in a letter, the nsa's inspector general told the senators he cannot answer how many americans have been spied on because to do so "would itself violate the privacy of u.s. persons." in the first-ever hearing of its kind, a senate panel tuesday heard testimony on the psychological and human-rights implications of solitary confinement in u.s. prisons. senator richard durbin of illinois it opened a hearing by noting u.s. holds far more prisoners in solitary confinement than any other democratic country. with tens of thousands of people in some form of restrictive housing. former death row prisoner anthony graves testified about the lasting effects of isolation, which he said drove some of his fellow prisoners to insanity and suicide. the use of solitary confinement has drawn increased attention -- attention of human rights advocates say it violates the ban on cruel and unusual punishment be aired to an end thursday when we will be joined by anthony graves another guest to discuss his jou

wyden: madam president, i'm going to take just a few minutes to outline the amendments that i plan to offer on the farm bill, and in the beginning, i particularly want to commend the chair of the committee, senator stabenow and senator roberts. i think we all understand that if you want to tackle a big issue, an important issue, you've got to find a way to come to something resembling common ground. this bill is especially important. this is a jobs bill at a time our country needs good-paying jobs. it is an extraordinarily important health bill, particularly one with great implications for how america tackles the issue of obesity. it is an environmental bill because it has great implication s for conservation. and of course it has extraordinary impact on rural communities, rural communities that are hurting right now. and so the amendments that i'm going to be offering on the farm bill address those major concerns, and those concerns are particularly important to my state. my home state does a lot of things well, madam president, but what we do best is we grow things. we grow things a

listen to what senator wyden said.ould point out how insulting it is for them to argue that men's of congress are personally going over to ustr to view the trade documents and adviser at halliburton or the mpaa is given a password that allows them or her to go and view the documents any time they want. if you're an u.s. senator you have to beg and plead. and if you work for halliburton have at it. the secret deals are done for your benefit any way. to give a sense of how bad this is, public citizen who is a watchdog had this to say. the tribunals that we would exposed to that would be staffed by private sector lawyers that would rotate between acting as judges and advocates suing the government. that means that the foreign corporation can come in here based on this dale and say i don't like your labor laws. i don't want to pay this much and i want to pull pollute. it's good that i can go to a tribunal packed with guys i paid off, they can make the ruling and you lost u.s. sovereignty and it's the least progressive trad

meanwhile, senator ron wyden who is the chairman of the cherry the committee in the senate, the committeeh jurisdiction over the tpp, has been denied access to the text as has his staff, who has secured a clarence, to a point where this man has supported agreements like this in the past has filed legislation demanding have the right to sue the agreement that he is supposed to be having oversight with. he is on the intelligence committee and has clearance. he can see nuclear secrets, but not this corporate bill of rights that is trying to be swift into effect in the name of being a trade agreement. it is a very elegant trojan horse strategy. you brand it one thing, then put an agenda that could not survive sunshine into this agreement. we have been able to get some of the text patents for big format. we have an analysis on our website as well as information about how to get involved. these agreements are a little bit like dracula. you drag them in the sunshine and they do not fare well. across all of the countries involved, there are citizen movements that are basically saying this is not

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ron wyden is definitely looking at that and it's something we're very interested in, the bill that he has. host: the first call from california, rob on our republican line. caller: my background, sb270. [unintelligible] in mentioned to have a center to help the psychological issues and perhaps sexually transmitted diseases that the girls have and help them with job training and help them become american citizens. guest: thank you, that's wonderful. this is one of the things we are very much trying to work with in the era of challenging budget times, for lack of a better term. how is it that we can support things like you described with centers for rehabilitation, ways to help them. in the meantime, people are coming together whether it is through churches or community groups. the american spirit is coming together on behalf of victims of modern slavery, then we as government need to come together with. you guys in the with --t: thsis note guest: one of the things we see from the u.n. protocol in 2000 and the u.s. law of 2000 is there's a requirement that you prove threat of force or t

wyden: mr. president, i have served on the intelligence committee for 11 years now, and i have seen during that time plenty of leaks, and i have tried with every bit of my energy to demonstrate how serious an issue this leaking matter is. in fact, i teamed up with senator bond, our colleagues her senator bond, of course, and i sponsored legislation to double, double, mr. president, the criminal penalty for those who leak, for those who expose covert agents. so i don't take a back seat, mr. president, to anybody in terms of recognizing the seriousness of leaks and ensuring that they are dealt with in an extremely prompt and responsive fashion. what is at issue here is whether or not we're going to give an opportunity for u.s. attorneys, professionals in their fields, to handle this particular inquiry, and i see no evidence, mr. president, that the way the u.s. attorneys are handling this investigation at this time is not with the highest standards of professionalism. now,

wyden: mr. president, yesterday, i joined with chairman bingaman to introduce legislation to address an urgent threat to america's national forests. the lack of resources to fight serious wildfires that at this very moment are burning on more than 300,000 acres in our country. to date -- and it is certainly early in the fire season -- more than 830,000 acres already have burned. the heart of the problem, mr. president, is as the fires have gotten bigger, the forest service air tanker fleet to fight these fires has gotten smaller. in 2006, the forest service had 44 large air tankers under contract in their fleet. last week, they had just 11 large air tankers under contract, and ten of those averaged 50 years of age. now, after very tragic events of this past weekend in which one of those air tankers crashed and its courageous pilots were killed and another had a failure of his landing gear and sustained serious damage, the forest service is down to nine large air tankers. this is an extraordinari

she doesn't have anybody to say, what's in the best interest of the child, and ron wyden is definitely looking at that and something we are very interested in the bill that he's got for our pilot projects. host: republican line, go ahead. caller: on the debate team from college, our topic was human trafficking. [inaudible] my question is -- the visa to help the women of sex trafficking get their citizenship. [inaudible] you mentioned a second ago was to have an all-inclusive center to help psychologically and possibly the s.t.d.'s these poor girls got and to help become citizens. thank you and i'll close on that. guest: i think that's wonderful. you know, this is one of the things that we very much are trying to work with in the era for lack of a better word challenging budget times. how is it that we can support things like you dribe, you know, centers for rehabilitation, ways to help these. in the meantime, though, people are coming together, whether it's through churches, community groups and i think the american spirit are coming together on behalf of modern slavery. we in governme

senator ron wyden says despite the magnitude and destructiveness of the recent forest fires the agency most responsible for fighting them the forest service has allowed the air tanker fleet to atrophy. that implies the budget is there but event they haven't been able to secure the planes. what they have done is increase the medium sized planes and the smaller planes and heavier helicopters but they need to get more air tankers in there. now they will tap some old european jet planes and try to get them in. they don't build these specifically for firefighting and that is the struggle because you're looking to get planes that you can't order and have them built. you have to take what you can get and i think the biggest problem going forward. >> rob marciano, thanks. >>> in nigeria, the death toll is climbing in the crash of a commercial airplane and the airline says the pilot was american. dana air has not released the name of the pilot but says he radioed the plane was having trouble minutes before it slammed into a crowded neighborhood. all 153 people aboard the plane died along with a