wyden: mr. president, absent senate action, at midnight tonight this senate will make one of the biggest mistakes in surveillance policy in years and years. without a single congressional hearing, without a shred of meaningful public input, without any opportunity for senators to ask their questions in a public forum, one judge with one warrant would be able to authorize the hacking of thousands, possibly millions of devices, cell phones and tablets. this would come about through the adoption of an obscure rule of criminal procedure called rule 41. now, rule 41 isn't something folks are talking about in coffee shops in alaska and oregon and other parts of the country. but i'm convinced americans are sure going to come to members of congress if one of their hospitals, one of their crucial medical programs is hacked by the government. and it's a fact that one of the highest profile victims of cyber attacks are medical facilities, are our hospitals. now the justice department has said this is no bi

wyden: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from oregon. mr. wyden: i want to thank senator coons for his work and his very thoughtful statement. i particularly appreciate your emphasizing the fact that this effort began long before november 8. this has been a bipartisan effort for some time. democrats and republicans across the political spectrum saying, look, the country wants policies that make us safer and protect our liberties. and if we're not careful, we're going to get policies that don't do much of either and in fact set us back. so i very much appreciate what my colleague is doing. it is a simple proposition that senator coons advances today, and that is when you're talking about a monumental change, one judge with one warrant making it possible to hack thousands of computers, this is not kind of a modest alteration in the way business is done in washington, d.c. this is a enormous public policy shift. and the idea that the congress, without even one hearing, without even one debate, without even one opportunity for members to weigh i

the first is to pass senator wyden's bill to require the president to publish text returns. now. that is a powerful prophylactic. congress should convene if donald trump will not do best himself as john recommends. congress should convene a standard investigative committee to make sure there is no wrongdoing. that should be set up as a permanent committee with equal numbers of republicans and democrats, in my opinion, just to check what is going on. they should issue subpoenas. you do not have to get to impeachment, the darkest possibilities. one more thing. we have to bus out of the idea of politics of the game. the institutions from the country are in danger. i agree with quite a lot with donald trump. i agree with the immigration policies, i appreciate his attempt to make there were part -- republican hardy more secular and focus on middle class economics. it is not about agendas, it is about protecting the institutions in the country at a time when institutions around the planet are under great pressure. >> we sought a gigantic victory in 2008 by barack obama that was me

often, we said it would be ron wyden, the democrat from oregon. rand paul, the republican just reelected to the senate in kentucky. people who have more libertarian or personal privacy leanings on issues like government incursionse and on into what your private life is your private life. i have a feeling that that group is going to be very active in the next coming months, as the trumpt ministration -- administration starts to get underway. you are hearing people talk about whether president trump will bring back the task -- tactic of waterboarding government detainees him of how much surveillance there might be , of restriction for journalists that are concerned about potential restrictions of first amendment and libel laws. i think that that group is going to have its work cut out for it in the coming months. guest: holding the line on those things. host: you two don't know it yet, but we have a camera located at the capital hilton here are new members are checking in. could you tell us a little bit about these new members and their inclusion in

prosecution for lying under oath to the senate in march 2013 when he was questioned by senator ron wyden about the government's secret surveillance program. >> they collect any type of data at all, millions or hundreds of millions of americans. >> no, sir. >> i it does not? >> not w wittingly. there are cases s where they cod inadvertently, perhaps, collect but not wittingly. amy: clapper later defended himself by claiming he had answered the question in the "least untruthful manner." his resignation will be effective on inauguration day, january 20, 2017. "the new york times" is reporting donald trump's son-in-law jared kushner is weighing the possibility off joining trump said administration -- a move that may violate u.s. anti-nepotism laws. kushner is the husband of trump's daughter ivanka. he's been a key adviser to donald trump's campaign and transition team. most recently, he orchestrated a purge of new jersey governor chris christie and his allies from the transition team. jared's father, charles kushner, was sent to prison by christie when christie was a new jersey's top prosecu

and the very first thing to do is to pass senator wyden's bill to require the president to publish taxdoes have the power to do, it's hesitated to do it, do it now. that is a powerful prophylactic. congress should convene a standing investigative committee to make sure that there is, that there is no wrongdoing. and that should be set up as a permanent committee, with equal numbers of republicans and democrats in my opinion, just to check what's going on. they should issue subpoenas, freely. >> let david finish. dave, go ahead and finish. >> so, you don't have to get there to impeachment, to the darkest possibilities. but one more thing, we have to bust out of some frames and we have to bust out of the idea of politics as a game. the institutions of the country are in danger. i actually probably agree, speaking of republicans, quite a lot with donald trump -- like if he were a different human being, what he would want to do. more than john, i think. i generally agree with his immigration policies, i appreciate his attempt to make the republican party more secular and more focused on mi

wyden. i'm wondering if you could describe if you're able to be successful in obtaining or securing the funding for this pilot program. what is the difference between what occurs under this pilot and what happens under current practices. basically, why would this pilot make how we provide services more efficient? >> yes, thanks for the question. again, this is still in progress. we don't have a final agreement on it but the basic concept here is that when of the pushes the efforts, from both the federal and state governments and also county providers has been to try to look at vulnerable populations that receive services from a number of different government and nonprofit providers that can because of the historical nature of the system of care developed in some cases be fragmented. where a client is receiving care from various departments from outside providers. so the goal of the program is to establish a pilot that helps improve the coronation of all those services and they can much more

senator wyden's provision to help children who are foster children gain access to programs to help them address mental health and addiction. you know, that was in here yesterday. that would have been a positive talking point for this bill yesterday. but it was stripped out last night. so this bill isn't ready not just for prime time, is not ready for consideration at all. if we're going to cut real programs to fund other real programs like the moonshot and alzheimer's research, strengthen n.i.h., then get it in this bill. don't just put in the real cuts and then say there's some promise, an invitation to chase a rainbow down the road. put it in the bill. and the things that are in here are powerful, deregulatory giveaways to big pharma and big tobacco making the lives of our citizens worse, not better, and that's why we should kill this bill. thank you. i suggest the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: quorum call: a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from virginia. kainmr. kaine: are we in a quorm call call? the

we went through three chairs of the energy committee working on this from new mexico, bingaman, wyden, murkowski worked with us all along, we have a bill, two appropriators, two awful risers all support and it sits in committee and the nuclear waste industry does nothing to help pass it why? i don't understand this and we see the accidents take place. it is a kind of madness to build stuff and not be able to properly dispose of the waste. >> pass the bill. california, if i can say a word about california which i know little about except i have two grandsons living there in palo alto who have much bigger interest in their safety. i don't know how california will manage without those plans that i don't think it is so clear that it is going to be cost free in a risk sense. i don't know the pg&e head but a lot of people in california know all about energy. won't be easy to get that energy. >> so far so good. >> so far so good, we have to keep at it but it is not at all clear. how it will come out. >> i plead with the industry to help us get a permanent waste facility, and there have to be

often, we said it would be ron wyden, the democrat from oregon. rand paul, the republican just reelected to the senate in kentucky. people who have more libertarian or personal privacy leanings on issues like government incursionse and on into what your private life is your private life. i have a feeling that that group is going to be very active in the next coming months, as the trumpt ministration -- administration starts to get underway. you are hearing people talk about whether president trump will bring back the task -- tactic of waterboarding government detainees him of how much surveillance there might be , of restriction for journalists that are concerned about potential restrictions of first amendment and libel laws. i think that that group is going to have its work cut out for it in the coming months. guest: holding the line on those things. host: you two don't know it yet, but we have a camera located at the capital hilton here are new members are checking in. could you tell us a little bit about these new members and their inclusion in

often, we said it would be ron wyden, the democrat from oregon.and paul, the republican just reelected to the senate in kentucky. people who have more libertarian or personal privacy leanings on issues like government incursionse and on into what your private life is your private life. i have a feeling that that group is going to be very active in the next coming months, as the trumpt ministration -- administration starts to get underway. you are hearing people talk about whether president trump will bring back the task -- tactic of waterboarding government detainees him of how much surveillance there might be , of restriction for journalists that are concerned about potential restrictions of first amendment and libel laws. i think that that group is going to have its work cut out for it in the coming months. guest: holding the line on those things. host: you two don't know it yet, but we have a camera located at the capital hilton here are new members are checking in. could you tell us a little bit about these new members and their inclusion in t

wyden: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from oregon. mr.yden: i ask unanimous consent to vacate the quorum. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. wyden: madam president, last month the democratic staff on the finance committee put out a report documenting the staggering shortage of treatment services in america for those suffering from opioid addiction. this report surveyed a cross section of american communities and found that there is a yawning treatment gap keeping so many from getting the help they need. nearly 90% of americans suffering from opioid addiction, according to the most current analysis, are not receiving the treatment they need. 90%, madam president. the treatment gap is caused by a shortage of available treatment services across the country, and even where these services do exist, they're overwhelmed by demand. this gap is straining rural communities that are already struggling to provide other essential medical services. asking these communities to provide care when they're stretched in such incredibly thin ways f

markey, senator bernie sanders, senator al franken, who spoke so eloquently a moment ago, senator ron wyden, senator debbie 125 stabenow, senator-elect chris van hollen, and senator tom carper. and i thank my colleagues who have appropriately said this moment, this unusual moment in our history, in our time here in the 21st century, that we have a president-elect playing on hate and prejudice and bringing a white supremacist as a chief advisor is unacceptable. now, some will say that president-elect trump cannot himself be accountable for what is happening across our country. but they are wrong. his words and his conduct are directly connected to the harassment and the physical and verbal assaults that we are seeing. and i'm going to share with you all the comments of the campaign and the acts of descension in category after category to show how these are tied together, how indeed these verbal assaults and that's physical assaults are motivated by and justified by the campaign of our president-elect. just to emphasize that it is time for our president-elect to take responsibility, to change

wyden. i'm wondering if you could describe if you're able to be successful in obtaining or securing the funding for this pilot program. what is the difference between what occurs under this pilot and what happens under current practices. basically, why would this pilot make how we provide services more efficient? >> yes, thanks for the question. again, this is still in progress. we don't have a final agreement on it but the basic concept here is that when of the pushes the efforts, from both the federal and state governments and also county providers has been to try to look at vulnerable populations that receive services from a number of different government and nonprofit providers that can because of the historical nature of the system of care developed in some cases be fragmented. where a client is receiving care from various departments from outside providers. so the goal of the program is to establish a pilot that helps improve the coronation of all those services and they can much more

i have worked with ron wyden. i worked with cory booker on criminal justice reform. i worked with barbara boxer on trying to repatriate profit here. i have worked with ed arkey. what you will see is i have worked with harry reid on voter restoration. you will see that when i believe it's something i do not let parties stand in the way at all, but i have a strong record of working with people on the other side. mr. goodman: senator paul, mayor gray claims your efforts to dismantle the nation's intelligence is dangerous. donald trump says rand paul is a disaster of military and defense. he quotes john mccain saying you do not have the understanding of the threats of the united states national security. and even governor chris christie said what rand paul has done to make this country weaker is a terrible thing. how do you respond? mr. paul: one of the most important rights our founding fathers put into the bill of rights was the fourth amendment, and it is the right to be left alone. ustice brandeis said in a case in 1928 the most cherished right among civilized women

one of those senators is ron wyden who said quote his statements about muslims are profoundly unamericanty. his financial intanglements with russia and other foreign governments are also cause for concern. look, i get you're standing up for him. you have to admit that since leaving government he has had some lobbying things where is he making big money and some of his clients have been controversial. >> let's be clear on this. he has not lob idea. that's one of the things that the folks out there on the left on team hillary has been putting out. he had relationships to advise and assist. he is an advisor. let's be clear on this again. >> making money forting. >> absolutely. schroll. and then the other issue is russia. look, he is a freaking intelligence officer. what good would an intelligence officer be if he doesn't actually go out and do intelligence stuff to figure things out? >> sure. >> so you have got to be out and engaged. mike flynn's job before he left government was to actually understand the map of the earth and how things function. that's not changed. one of the things about

and as i said, it's not that different from what senator wyden came up in the past. >> i've had conversationsople close to the clinton camp for months and months now who've indicated at least and those who are on wall street who support her believe corporate tax reform will be one of the first agenda items if she's elected. >> yeah, well, i've talked to the clinton camp too, and mrs. clinton herself if elected says she wants to somehow unify things. people say that's hopeless. but let me tell you one area where i think you could actually make a big step forward towards unifying this country is in the tax area. i mean, we've got almost uniform agreement that this thing is a mess. and it's not fair. it's not, you know, maximizing growth and revenue. and it's ripe for improvement. >> except there's a lot of lobbyists and a lot of money at stake. it's just hard to imagine a process that doesn't end up with things going awry. >> well, i agree. >> sorry. >> look, we haven't had it since 1986. >> right. >> it did happen. it could maybe happen again. i mean, i realize that was a different era. it was

and nigel, i wonder if we can wyden the lens about this trump transition there has been quite a bit ofion particularly among conservatives in the united states the last couple of days about who might be the secretary of state. i wonder as you set in london and think about sort of the global reaction to donald trump coming to power the idea that mitt romney, one of his big foes might be the secretary of state or rudy giuliani who has been a loyalist great debate there. now there might be a third way, general petraeus or john bolton the former ambassador. what's your sense there having known donald trump and sat down with him just very recently about what might be his approach in terms of the world stage? >> well, of course, he has two things to do, doesn't he? on the one hand, he has to keep faith with the people that voted him in. and on his commitments. on the other he has a healing job to do in the republican party. remember, around about the time of the second debate, most seemly ran for the hills and left him high and dry. a little bit of both. get that party back together again. m

and the fact that evan bayh and ron wyden and ted strickland have not been able to capture those seats, as chuck was saying, poor recruitment. if hillary clinton wins, she will not have a stronger hand in the senate. they may get control, but they won't have what they had hoped to have. has a chance in pennsylvania. and pennsylvania is obviously the most important firewall of them all. this is a night of great nervousness for democrats. they feel that they underestimated the strength of donald trump. and hillary did not realize the divisiodivisions, the depth of anger in white rural america, the trade issue, and the immigration issue. that could end up being a big factor in michigan. >> we've got a busload of republican primary contende underestimating donald trump. let's go to the trump headquarters right now. katy tur is standing by there. katy? >> reporter: lester, democrats are thinking they may have underestimated donald trump. look at his republican rivals who did the exact same thing. now the campaign says they're not only hopeful about michigan. they're hopeful about minnesota.

i have worked with ron wyden extensively on privacy issues.e're working on a letter to the president right now. i worked with cory booker on criminal justice reform. i worked with barbara boxer on trying to repatriate profit here. i just finished working with ed markey, a progressive democrat from massachusetts, on trying to help the drug problem, trying to allow doctors to see more people, step them down and get them off of heroine. i have worked with harry reid on voter restoration. will seeou really that when i believe in something, i will not let parties stand in the way of it at all. i have a strong record of working with people on the other side. mr. goodman: senator paul, mayor gray claims your efforts to dismantle the nation's intelligence is dangerous. his word. the commercial he is running against you on national security and defense quote donald trump saying "rand paul is a disaster of military and events." he quotes john mccain saying you simply "do not have the understanding of the threats of the united state's national security."