senator wyden has been our captain on this issue. senator wyden. senator wyden: i want to note one on the committee, we consider this committee where you see the all-stars in the health care arena and chairman cardin has been continuing that. i am sitting in a seat this morning that was occupied for many years by senator rockefeller who was a great champion and would be with us all the way in terms of cleaning up these abuses and i also want to thank our republican colleagues senator grassley and senator young. this has been in the best tradition with all these all-stars to work in a bipartisan way and i appreciate it. i'm going to be very brief because of the terrific panelists to just start by updating members and the public about our work and particularly moving forward with the health resources to implement thering began procurement network. we are pleased by bipartisan that the bill has gotten and it's been good to see that they are not opposing the legislation. i can report to my colleagues and number of productive conversations with chairman

vers congressman, senator wyden from oregon as an active bill that is being considered to do somethingeastern oregon. stuff is percolating here you don't hear about it but it is percolating. mall,se it is harder to get this through congress than it used to be, for sure, but things do get through prayer remember, 2019, 2242 huge cysts successes for public land. all is not lost his is my m. i think progress is still possible and likely, frankly. >> you were asked, when you were the clinton administration participate in the designation of the grand staircase escalante national monument, did utah's delegation support that action? were any concessions made to help appease the utah politicians? >> that's a good example because i was pretty deeply personally involved in that. when we're putting thehe monumet together we met with the delegation and heard a lot from them about what their concerns were and how we might address them in the monument itself. for example, i think the top concern was we don't want the park service to manage it so secretary babbitt rep admitted to the rec to the presi

i'm joined by my colleagues, ayman wyden, elicit men and, as mehdi hasan, reverend al sharpton, and forfirst conversation, jen psaki sticks around with us because she has just been having some of this conversation, on your show. you are, as we should, as journalists, being respectful of the fact that there is a process here, right? there are some fair minded republican primary voters who are going to watch this thing to try and make a decision. they maybe don't like joe biden, or they just like to think there is a real political process, and something akin to a debate may occur. but how you get your head around the fact that this is just weird? >> first, it's important you stated that, as you did in your opening their, ali. i try to talk about that over the last hour as well. but you are, right there are a number of candidates who seem to be going to the debate on wednesday prepared to talk about a range of issues. some of them could actually be kind of interesting. where do they stand on social security, abortion rights? they have some differences on issues like the war in ukraine that

senator wyden has introduced to add more protections eastern oregon and involve the burns pike so waseen more and i ofthink more about will happen. >> president biden called for the protectionof of 30% of landy 2030. can you share the best pathway forward making headway? >> the firstan question, what ds conserve mean? wilderness and protected from all kinds of abuses. they are maybe raised by livestock as well. so it is a complex question. the goal of saying we should protect and make that a goal and i think more than 100 nations around the world have basically endorsed got goal. ultimately the goal is to protect 50% and this came from the bureaus and nationalists who read a book several years ago, the question presented, how do we really preserve this remnants ofrs biodiversity around the planet? he said if we picked the right percentage of land, we can do it and that's where this idea came from. it is a white movement the biden administration signed on to. it's not that easy but the details to some extent, remain. >> what finish up with one and a question. do you believe are bedrock

senator wyden from oregon has an active bill now that was considered to do something similar in eastern oregon so. it's harder to get things done and. congress than it used to be for sure, but remember there's two pieces of legislation i mentioned so i think progress is still possible and likely, frankly. >> you were asked when you were part of the clinton administration participating in the designation of the national monument did utah's delegation support that action and were any concessions made to help appease the utahti politicians? >> that is a good example because i was pretty deeply personally involved. when we were putting the monument together we met with the delegation and heard a lot refrom them about what their concerns were and how we might address them in the monument itself. there's a provision and of their work about ten things they were concerned about and we basically had accommodated in one way or another. what happened in the aftermath is also important. they could better use more productively elsewhere and we negotiated an exchange with hundreds of thousands of acr

i think senator wyden announces staff found on these aren't good once. several of themwo their networks doctors in the claim that when the network worked there. that would be -- we need to make themhe possible -- possible for people to switch plans especially when their health is at stake not because they happen to change their mind on a whim but for serious health care reasons there ought to be a way to do this and the whole idea behind medicare advantage is you have risk-adjusted premiums and when your health condition changes your plan is entitled to a different premium above way a higher premium and that's the way this works and that's why it works the way her well and plan. we have a special >> let me follow up on this a little bit. >> during the special enrollment period you have your medicare advantage and your six week period and you have a feel months where you could make a change. beyond that you can't change plans until the next open enrollmentol period. >> it sounds like what you're proposing is for exogenous things that happened special mome

i think with senator wyden, announcing his staff found that for several medicare advantage, plans their networks were gross networks. doctors that they claim were in the network weren't really there. to me, that's ground for allowing to unreleased to switch to another plan. so we need to make it possible for people to switch plans, especially when their health is at stake. not because they just happen to change their minds on when, but for some serious health care reason. there ought to be a way to do this. remember, the whole idea behind medicare advantage is you have risk adjusted premiums, and when your health condition changes, you -- your plan is entitled to a different premium, probably a higher premium. and that is why this works, and it works so well. that's why we have the special needs plans. >> all right, let me follow up on this a little bit. >> there is a special enrollment period, for example, -- >> so for medicare advantage you have six-week period, then you have a few more months when you can make a change. but beyond, that you really can't change plans until the next en