i mei ksoo afas wyle moeader, in "the washington post" before 1969 you never knew where the tv section t p son re tvi, so ohe kunns s oid t at the practical fution. they had a section called for and about women, and then -- it withhe olscase, bo of u ben, and i don't think people say he was for feminism or anything like that, but in the rational,wh he outowon men,nde wed ati nedea in a modern way. that was a component of it. the third thing you mentioned was it. in the proposal for the section, the guy who submiedit d, ssntmangitf plth a pe,he way people live. there was nothing like that in a newspaper, and so when they put the style sectionogher, the first cover was of this -- it was a womana.il, fspanr dnng w wn. ouaan wn, not, you know, sort of then the geral had tea and gave remarks and all of that, and so i think ben was really looking fr a deayorehas it, haealano the antecedent for this is ben' uncle, the first real editor of grwrsyi bme mane al magazine, but a hard hitting thing exprezzing modern life, and ben did that with the style section and that was why it was soel >> ya tr