. >> rose: also this evening wynton marsalis and garth fagan. their new piece is called "lighthouse/lighting rod" >> so i received a tremendous education from god and down through the years our companies are like familiment we work together, we go to their shows, they come to ours. so after all of this time, we collaborate very easily because we have a sensibility and understanding. and we as musicians understand what his style is about. >> its music for me, i become a member winton accepted as a choreographer. i don't dance to the music, i dance with the music. and i play with his music to and from. and to my eye and my spirit, it's richer and more wonderful. and thank god critics around the world think that way. >> rose: we conclude this evening in a conversation with daniel humm on the making of a chef. he made his way from switzerland to san francisco and now to new york. >> 11 madison park, when you look at the room, the room is very unique and special. it has a real new york feel to it. it's an historic landmark building. and it's overlook

i don't even have to look at a program to know that that is the sweet tones of wynton marsalis.aluting, there's no flag out there. we're not violating any norms here. >> you are correct. on both accounts. >> i know him and there's nobody better. again, mr. mayor, let's talk about the fund-raising role. they are going to come at you, the obama team has raised a ton of money. this is going to be the most expensive race ever. but now that the general election is engaged, they are going to have more money to spend and also, the super pac money is unlimited. >> right. >> so how do you -- >> i happen to think that citizens united was a horrible decision by the supreme court. that said, i believe that if i can be helpful in the next 61 days in this way to help the president level the balance field with all that special interest money on the other side, i'm going to do that because i think the president has been a very good president. i meant what i said in the speech about the decisions he makes versus the decisions mitt romney would make. they have taken clear positions on the auto in