the initial investment in dollar terms $7.00 x. ethe and $4.00 point terms so they were massive successes and 2017 everybody involved all of those who were donating to the projects all those who were hosting these projects doing the i c o's everybody 10 down shows gave birth to this concept of the tax return you know to put this into perspective during the dot com mania it was considered to be unbelievable a windfall then if you got 607080 percent pop on day one of your i.p.o. here you're talking about 10 x. that's 10 times the initial or 20 x. or 30 x. the idea of this x. that you know an investment in these i.c.'s would generate x returns you know multiples of return and you know that is became normalized which was fascinating this is the beginning of hysteria people all over the world hear stories of south koreans just cashing in all their pensions their mortgages buying up all sorts of i.c.'s 2000 coins say there is an eruption of coins in 2017 there were 435 projects. at the end of the day it's one. what's the point of this token a