with us to discuss the report are: xavier mcelrath-bey of the campaign for the fair sentencing of youth we welcome you both. michael thompson, to you first. i read you said there has never been a study done like this one. what did you mean by that and what were the main findings? >> yeah we've never seen any state conduct a study like this. i mean every state is seeing or nearly every state is seeing a dramatic decline in the number of kids that it has in state-secure facility, but this study that texas undertook is unlike anything done anywhere. we saw 1.3 million records pulled together over an eight-year period, an exhaustive analysis that was done that proves that really kids do do better closer to home. kids staying under community supervision instead of being in an incarceration setting. we found they were saving the state a lot of money hundreds of millions by closing these facilities and putting the emphasis on community supervision. very few states could conduct an analysis like this yet it's the kind of analysis that states everywhere should be conducting. >> woodruff: what wa