tv apps. is there a big video game? you can even buy a controller that sort of looks like an xbox controller for your apple tv.s there a video game opportunity that maybe we're understating for apple? >> i don't think so. i think if we're looking at the size of the market, the video business is vastly the bigger market on a global scale in particular. you get into the console, kind of competitive business, what you're going to do is lose out to the dedicated guys on the high end. you can have an opportunity with casual games. on the television, that's just not that big of a market. and nintendo's performance in the last couple of cycles has probably shown us that. >> in terms of your model, if apple doesn't have any success with any sort of tv product, does that impact it at all or just never made it into the model to begin with. >> more of the latter. hasn't made it into the model. the strategy hasn't been effective. so for us, yeah, video, any success in video would be upside for sure. >> andy, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. andy hargraves, pacific crest. >>> on deck, opportunity for you to make some