and who's filling that vacuum to day, we're talking with xena guzman, senior fellow and director of the africa program at the carnegie endowment for international peace. and previously at the world bank and inca auto k, a veteran journalist who's been covering innovation in africa for a long time for reuters courts and were recently semaphores where he is the africa editor and i'm also editor at large, so he's a colleague. is he not? let me start with you and just ask how outdated is america's conception and engagement with africa as a continent? the perceptions of african, the u. s. a very much outdated and i would say that they are stuck in the 20th century for the most part. you find this across various levels of american society . so overall, africa is seen as a humanitarian case rocked by conflict by corruption by terrorism. and in need of aid, as you mentioned in your introduction, all of these things are true. the problem is that they are incomplete. they present an incomplete picture of where african countries are today. sol, within the american government, things are starting t

influence, particularly with the european allies to push those courses for africa, political economy, xena guzman and journalist get out of go. okay, thank you so much for being with us today. so what's the bottom line from algeria t, as in bob way, folks in africa are busy building biotech hubs hosting innovation challenges and scaling their entrepreneurship across the continent. america still there, but faintly, most of the fresh ink on the deals, it will bring major economic development, or either chinese or russian or turkish. america still looks at the continent to archaic lenses, a poor war torn place, dependent on outsiders and in need of saving by the west, and more recently as a base for special forces and counter terrorism. sure, there are real hot spots, but washington is generally losing out. countries that have updated their worldview on africa are making partnerships and planting the seeds for the future. and if washington doesn't do the same, it's going to miss the proverbial african boat. and that's the bottom line. ah ah, ah, ah ah ah, once cc'd wireless now posted to the village