so xi jinping had something to to to go with. oh, for i mean, it has very popular among the people right up to this day. and in fact, even though the elite, the political elite, the intellectual elite, private business people, xi jinping is popular with them by any means but with lao, by sheng or the masses in china, they've he was just fine because he was cleaning up corruption and also his nationalist foreign appealed to them because they thought, yes, it's for china to stand up in the world. so i think we should maybe you are back to the beginning. and when you first went to china, i have to tell everybody that susan beat richard nixon to china. that's really quite a feat. us when you went and why it was that the prime minister then jo ann lin you met said well i wish susan shirk was president. the united states. well, that was a pretty exciting for someone 22 years old. i was a graduate student doing my dissertation research in hong kong because. of course, no americans could go to china. so in order to study what was happeni

do we have that for xi jinping? >> we work very hard to develop that >> working on it?i think we work very hard to develop the very best intelligence we can. >>, but i wonder if when you're talking about his thinking and decision making if he suffers from the yes man culture you said vladimir putin does? because xi jinping got rid of a lot of people in his government. >> margaret, it's a concern in any authoritarian system. what we've seen in beijing is president xi consolidating power at a very rapid pace over the course of the more than a decade that he's been in power as well, and as we've seen where putin's hubris has now gotten russia and the horrors that he's brought to the people of ukraine, in that kind of a system, very closed decision making system where nobody challenges, you know, the authority of their insights of an authoritarian leader, you can make some huge blunders as well. >> you've said xi jinping told his military to be prepared to invade taiwan by 2027. the intel community seems a little bit more am big gu was in its conclusions here. do you think

it is why i spoke directly with president xi when i was in bangkok just several weeks ago. it is a priority of ours to ensure that we keep open lines of communication and that we make america's position clear. again, we made america's position clear about that balloon when we shot it down. >> let me ask you about ukraine. russia is hammering ukraine, artillery, missiles. can't vladimir putin outlast ukraine as this war goes into the second year? this is becoming a war of attrition. doesn't vladimir putin have more ammunition, more artillery to outlast ukraine? >> well, you're right, andrea, that vladimir putin decided unprovoked to start this war. and he has the ability to end it by stopping and getting out. >> he's shown no sign of giving up or negotiating. >> that is part of why we will make sure that we do everything possible within our power to strengthen ukraine's position on the battlefield so that if and when there are negotiations ukraine will be in the strongest position in a negotiation. but to your point, what russia has done in ukraine both in terms of the strat

shery: is the chinese public feel about president xi? kind of alluded that the days of consensusbuilding perhaps are over. you have a bunch of loyalists. where are the checks and balances of xi jinping's power going to come from? that, we have already seen in the waning days of covid zero policies, those protests in all corners of china, in particular in shanghai, the commercial center of china. anecdotal and empirical evidence suggests that people are highly skeptical of xi jinping and whether his policies are going forward after they have been burned by two months of lockdown earlier last year, they are not necessarily convinced that he is the right person and has the right team. the premier to be, lee chong, was the party secretary of shanghai. he rose rewarded for the lockdown, which caused uncomfortable pain to many households in that city of more than 25 million people. here is what one person said. this is anecdotal evidence collected by bloomberg news on the streets of shanghai. one person who refused to give her name said, if so

yes, and something else that is closely tied to xi jinping is the i is closely tied to xi jinping is what you see happening between russia and ukraine, how that is being viewed in china through the prism of the relationship or the long—running conflict, i think it is there to say, with taiwan. the long-running conflict, i think it is there to say, with taiwan. the west has sent so — there to say, with taiwan. the west has sent so much _ there to say, with taiwan. the west has sent so much warmer— there to say, with taiwan. the west has sent so much warmer trail - there to say, with taiwan. the west has sent so much warmer trail to i has sent so much warmer trail to ukraine that they have white —— run down debt stocks and in the event of a conflict with taiwan, that could pose problems. until last year, many people in taiwan were quite fatalistic about resisting china, they thought that it is hopeless, they thought that it is hopeless, they are ten times bigger than we are, and even in the us comes to our aid, we can't really resist them. now they had seen the example of ukraine stand

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xi jinping and vladimir putin have made this - else. xi jinping and vladimir.re no limits friendship, does that no limit stretch as far as china being honest with russia, and saying, listen, half the world is against you here, more than half the world is against you here?— is against you here? well, there are _ is against you here? well, there are a _ is against you here? well, there are a lot _ is against you here? well, there are a lot of- is against you here? well, there are a lot of things i is against you here? well, there are a lot of things to say about that, first of all, more than half the world is actually sitting this poor outcome if you count india, africa, latin america, most countries are actually try not to get involved in this fight between the rest and russia, as they see it. but to your broader point —— the west and russia. to a broader point, i think that clearly china is trying to say we don't want an all—out fight that would lead to years of warfare, and escalation beyond ukraine, and over three of the ukrainian government, further threats

xi jinping has claimed full responsibility where he can control everything. it's a big, complex bureaucratic system. once he gives the green light, some people believe there may be elements within the chinese pla who were trying to subvert diplomacy, but i think it is more likely people were on autopilot and just kept doing it. the wind may have had something to do with it. reporter: reportedly, there were failed attempts by u.s. officials to contact chinese counterparts when this balloon was circling the u.s.. what does this incident tell us about the ability to talk when they need to talk? >> yes, i believe this is the most worrisome feature of the whole incident. the biden administration tried to consult with chinese counterparts, either the chinese did not answer the phone or they answered the phone but said they needed more time, nobody feels they can take a position before xi jinping authorizes it. that might have been part of the problem. in any case, the ability to coordinate during a crisis is very worrisome. reporter: this trip by blinken that was c

-- stamping of xi jinping? >> that's possible. and the reason is that the chinese military has become extremely powerful. xi jinping has given flag officers a lot of authority, and they have been actually putting their stamp on chinese diplomacy, quote-unquote. but they've also been taking larger and larger shares of the resources of the chinese central government. xi jinping needs their political support especially now when he's having so many problems at home. so, you know, the military could have just said, look, we're doing what we're doing, or they could have just told xi jinping we're doing this, and you have no say. that is not what most people think, but that's a possibility that we need to consider especially because there have been signs over the last 6-8 weeks of real problems at the top in beijing. arthel: and i've also been reading about how the chinese military has become more aggressive in recent times. so i wanted to ask though if, even though you said, gordon, that this balloon having been shot down is an embarras

president biden wants to speak with xi jinping to ease tensions after the u.s. shutdown the suspected spy balloon. two fed officials put 50 basis points hikes back on the table. and another grilling from lawmakers amid criticism over messaging. >> governor lee very much in focus here in australia particularly over the comments he is making in -- what is interesting is he says that he is conscious about the impact this is having on the community. he has faced a lot of harsh criticism for not properly or openly communicating the path of rate hikes in the months ahead. in terms of the direction for bonds, we are probably are likely to be tracking those moves with two fed officials saying they are open to 50 basis point hikes. we are trading flat for the asx 200. we will see the staggered start comes on nine-month -- nine minutes to get fully underway. when we looked across the currency landscape, but only one trading higher was what we sow with the yen it is now trading steadily. nikkei futures are pointing to a slower start as well. china is one of the markets tha

>> when are you speaking to president xi? >> house speaker kevin mccarthy is traveling to the u.s.outhern border in arizona with president gop lawmakers. the speaker who has been critical of the president's border policy will get a brief from border protection. wash coverage on c-span at 4:45 eastern time. watch on our website, and our free video app. >> all this week beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern, c-span is featuring encore presentations of q and a, our hour-long program with journalists and historians. tonight, margaret burnham shares her book which examines the racial violence experienced by the south -- margaret burnham tonight at 7:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. you can listen to q&a and all of our podcasts on our c-span now app.

and it's not just with president xi.t you have to lead with your values, particularly in foreign policy. he's never shy about bringing that up. >> what's the likelihood that president biden meets with president zelenskyy next week? >> talking about on the trip? there's no meeting with president zelenskyy scheduled for the trip right now. >> and related to president xi and a call with president biden as well, have tensions cooled enough to where the two leaders could jump on the phone together right now? >> there is an open line of communication and i'm not denying that there aren't still tensions, particularly in the wake of the spy balloon. we don't believe it's the appropriate time for secretary blinken to travel to beijing, and you heard the president that he will -- he will want to have another conversation with president xi as you might expect that he would, but we don't have anything on the schedule right now, and we'll have to do that at the time when the president believes it's appropriate. what's really importan

and i expect to be speaking with presidentpr xi. hope to get to the bottom of this but i make no apologies for taking that balloon. thank you very much. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] quick there's been criticism that this. [inaudible] correct sir, mr. president or mr. president. >> did you overreact? mr. president there's a criticism this is an overreaction that was done because of politicaln pressure. come to my office and ask a question protects mr. president. [inaudible] what's your message? clerks when you speaking to president xi, mr. president? ♪ start your day with "washington journal". went to the nations cap of the only nationally televised discussing the latest issues in washington and across the country. >> gives people an opportunity to see for themselves the issues actually care about progress join alive three hour conversation with congressional member. click somewhere the great institutions of this country were speech is sometimes unpopular. >> washington influencers. looks a balanced discussion on policy issues

i expect to be speaking with president xi, and i hope we have -- we will get to the bottom of this.logies for taking down that balloon. >> china's top foreign policy official responded on saturday in his visit to munich. he told the gathering of world leaders that the u.s. response was a strategic misjudgment and he also called it absurd and hysterical and warned the cold war mentality is back. well, the secretary of state met with wang lee late on saturday the first time since the u.s. shot down the spy balloon. i spoke with secretary blinken after the meeting, and i'll bring that to you in just a moment. the war in ukraine is dominating at the security council, more so than the balloon, if you will. the u.s. is worried that china may view a lack of resolve on ukraine as a potential sign of weakness as it eyes taiwan over reunification over the next several years. vice president announced that the u.s. determined that russia is committing war crimes in ukraine. >> gruesome acts of murder, torture, rape, and deportation. we have examined the evidence. we know the legal standards, an

stuart: the report came in the wall street journal about 20 minutes ago, the report is the china's xing plans to visit moscow. there to tie up happening here between russia and china in the face of america, europe, in the ukraine. that is why the market went south of the dow dropped 500 points. tension on that level. a realignment of superpowers facing off against each other, that has the market really upset, dow down 500 coming nasdaq down 200 points. greg abbott, governor of texas discussing strategies to secure the southern border. casey steagall in west texas ahead of the meeting, what can we expect? >> reporter: there are a lot of items on the agenda, certainly a lot of stuff to talk about in terms of how texas is securing its own border and what gabbana that is governor abbott calls president biden's absence. later today the governor will be joined by two state lawmakers, also director of the texas department of public safety, dps, the head of the texas military department and also his newly appointed border czar, a retired bp agent tapped by abbott to help curb crime and accele

secretary blinken had to cancel his trip and the president wants to have a conference with xi and noign that anything has been schedule. this lack of communication, how dangerous is this situation with china right now? >> well, we have said repeatedly that we have to have military communications channels to avoid escalation, to avoid surprise and to avoid mistake. it is unfortunate that the chinese defense ministry has declined to take calls from the u.s. secretary of defense. that's on china because from the u.s. perspective and the rest of the world, we are acting responsibly. we are prepared to have those lines of crisis communication. we had them during the cold war, the height of the cold war when the u.s. and the soviet union were squaring off, but, chuck, we do have the ability to speak to china at high levels, and as i mentioned, secretary blinken spoke with his counterpart, the top diplomat of china wang yi at munich just a few days ago. so it is not just that all lines of communication are shut off, but rather, we do not have the military-to-military exchanges that we think

will president biden bring up human rights issues with xi jinping? human rights concerns and when he met with president xi in bali he brought it up then. it's not just with president xi, the president believes you have to lead with your values, particularly in foreign position. he's never shy about bringing that up. >> john, what's the likelihood that president biden meets with president zelenskyy next week? >> there's no meeting -- talking about on the trip? there's no meeting with president zelenskyy scheduled for the trip right now. >> and related to president xi in that call with president biden as well, have tensioned cooled enough to where the two leaders can jump on the phone together right now? >> there is an open line of communication and i'm not denying that there aren't still tensions particularly in the wake of the spy moon. we don't believe it's the appropriate time for secretary blinken to travel to beijing and you heard the president that he will -- he will want to have another conversation with president xi but we don't have anything

in 2006 and 2010, first under hu and then under xi.denly you get a much more aggressive china in the china sea and it does these things and i would say to them, how is that working for you? it was 3% last year, like, half. you've triggered now a global ban, basically, on semiconductors which are the oil of the 21st century. china's basically saying we'll deal with it and we'll push back our own. really, i say? that's like telling me the chinese national basketball team will play the global superstars in basketball on semiconductors forever. so i really wonder where they're going with this. >> all right. i'll leave the conversation there. >> up next, nikki haley was the first republican to take on first republican to take on donaldrump this week. detect this: living with hiv, i learned i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen. detect this: no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep y

it will embolden and empower chairman xi. i've never seen a foreign nation adversary fly reconnaissance aircraft that you can see from the ground with your own eyes. the ccp threat is now within site for americans across the heartland, vision and memory that they will not forget. this is further proof that the ccp does not care about having a constructive relationship with the united states. it is publicly challenging u.s. interests, threatening taiwan, supporting russia's war of aggression in ukraine, and now violating u.s. sovereignty. if there is any question whether the administration should request funds supporting taiwan's foreign military financing, this incident alone should make it clear that the time is now to pardon ourselves and her partners against the chinese military aggression. an event like this, mr. speaker, must not happen again. and it cannot go unanswered. they only understand one thing, and that is force. and that is projecting power. and we need to reject power and force and strength against the chinese

presidents xi and putin set to meet again soon. games and joint naval drills involving china and russia happening right now. how closely is xi jinping and china watching the war in ukraine? >> xi jinping is likely watching the war in ukraine very closely because it has both economic implications for china, diplomatic implications for china, and military implications for china. >> norah: toshi yoshihara has spent his career studying the chinese navy. he says xi jinping is learning lessons as the chinese president considers invading taiwan. >> the first is the nuclear saber rattling that putin engaged in at the outset of the conflict. now, while putin's nuclear threats did not stop the west from helping ukraine, i think it was clear that the united states and its nato allies were very cautious. took putin's words seriously. and so, xi jinping might learn that it might be to china's benefit to similarly engage in early nuclear threats. >> norah: republican congressman mike gallagher is a marine veteran and chairs the new house committ

put forward this plan without having had a single conversation since the war began between president xind president zelenskyy. the chinese have talked to the russians a lot, but at the most senior levels they've not talked to the ukrainians as very difficult to advance any peace initiative when there is that one-sided diplomacy going on. from our perspective, the critical thing is any peace plan offered by anybody has to involve the input of ukraine as president biden has constantly said nothing about ukraine without ukraine and that goes for this initiative as well as any other initiative under the sun. >> let's talk about some of the -- some of the, i'll call it criticism, if you will, from democrats that there is more aid that needs to be sent to ukraine and it needs to happen faster including an f-16. i'll play an array of folks, jason crow, mike mcfall, former ambassador of russia and jared golan. take a listen. >> they need more aircraft, more advanced aircraft and that's why we've been pressing the administration on a bipartisan basis to give them what they need to fight and when

but the question is, why do you hold a some of the one between lincoln and president xi? it just during peaceful times or is it during times of great conflict where you what to resolve something? so what about blinken and that would be at the behest of president biden canceling a meeting at this critical juncture >> >> i think the u.s. policy predating this incident has been to contain china, to take also the measures diplomatic, military, intelligencen order to prevent the rise of what it sees as a peer competitor of the united states. china is an autocratic regime. it has military -- it wants to reshape the international border. the u.s. thinks it has to stop this. it has clearly said its ambition is to remain the only superpower , remain number one. and of course this is viewed very dimly in beijing. you have to put this incident back in the context of the long relationship between u.s. and china from beijing's perspective, have to go back to 1999 when u.s. bombed the chinese embassy during the war. you have to put it in context with looking back at 2001 when u.s. spy

presidents xi and putin set to meet again soon.res show war games and joint naval drills involving china and russia happening right now.chtcng t in ukraine? >> xi jinping is likely watching the war in ukraine very closely because it has both economic implications for china, diplomatic implications for china, and military implications for china. >> toshi yoshihara has spent his career studying the chinese navy. he says xi jinping is learning lessons as the chinese president considers invading taiwan. >> the first is the nuclear saber rattling that putin engaged in at the outset of the conflict. now, while putin's nuclear threats did not stop the west from helping ukraine, i think it was clear that the united states and its nato allies were very cautious, took putin's words seriously. and so xi jinping might learn that it might be to china's benefit to similarly engage in early nuclear threats. >> republican congressman mike gallagher is a marine veteran and chairs the new house committee sed onhina >> one of thss is ttorsl yo you sh

i talked to him. >> you've talked to xi jinping? >> xi jinping before and our team talks to their people. >> during this instance? >> i even talked to him during this. this. >> bret: mr. chairman, how could it not affect relations between u.s. and china? i don't fully understand that answer, do you? >> i don't. it seem add little naive in a way like i know him. he needs to know the intelligence that's out there and read what chairman xi says about the 100-year marathon and his intentions are very clear. if this was intentional, the fly over united states and we do know once it was over our air sparkes they could control the aircraft and decided to keep it on course throughout the united states and collect data. that obviously impacts our relationship with china. it makes what's already deteriorating relationship even worse. this is not good and i don't know why chairman xi decided to do this right now at this time when the secretary of state was getting ready to visit. >> bret: senior pentagon officials say they felt confident they

it is not what -- not just with president xi jinping. the president believes you have to lead with their values, particularly in foreign policy. he is not shy about bringing that up. >> what is the likelihood that president biden means with president zelenskyy next week? kirby: we talked about this on the script that there is no meeting with president zelenskyy schedule for the trip right now. >> and with president xi jinping and the call with president biden, have tensions cooled enough to when the two leaders can jump on a phone right now? kirby: there is no open line communication. i am not denying that there are not still tensions. we do not believe it is the appropriate time right now for secretary blinken to travel to beijing and you heard the president that he will want to have another conversation with president xi jinping as you expect he would. what we do not have anything on the schedule right now we have to do that at the time of the president believes it is appropriate. i know the question was all about president biden and p

>> i had a very frank conversation with president xi on this last summer. i pointed out to him -- the conversation went like this. i said, mr. president this is not a threat, it's an assertion, a statement what i think the reality is. you saw what happened when the rest of the world, europe in particular, saw the brutality of what putin was doing in ukraine to the ukrainians from russia. and i said, without any government prodded, 600 american corporations left russia, from mcdonald's to exxon to -- across the board. and i said, if you are engaged in the same kind of brutality by supporting the brutality that's going on, i said, you may face the same consequence. i don't anticipate -- we haven't seen it yet, but i don't anticipate a major initiative on the part of china providing weaponry to -- to russia. >> but if they did, would that be crossing a line for you, mr. president? > it would be the same line everyone else would have crossed. in other words, we'd impose severe sanctions on anyone who has done that. >> so there would be severe consequences. >> i

and vladimir putin secelebratin his relationship with china you and president xi now likely to visit russia this spring. what the biden min zradministras saying about china. ian pannell in ukraine for us. >>> harvey weinstein sentenced to 16 additional years in prison. what this now means. >>> actor alec baldwin pleading not guilty, but what the judge said about baldwin moving case. >>> and the extraordinary story of one school's cheerleading team. you'll be cheering for them after you see what they've accomplished tonight. america strong. >>> and good evening from washington. we are back in the u.s. tonight after our reporting in warsaw, and it's great to have you with us tonight. we begin this evening with that bombshell testimony in the trial of alex murdaugh now testifying in his own defense. murdaugh taking the stand today, telling the jury, "i did not kill maggie, i did not kill paul." but then admitting he lied to investigators about the last time he saw them alive. and admitting he stole money from his own law firm. murdaugh blaming his addiction for paranoia and distrust he

obviously who he would rather talk to is xi jinping. are we expecting that to happen? when?there are some latest announcements. it looks like chinese president xi jinping will be paying a visit to moscow in the coming months. also, in the past couple weeks, particularly after the balloon incidents, the chinese president xi jinping promised a trip to taiwan as well. so, i think today increasingly the chinese leader sees an inevitable fallout of strategic confrontation between china and the united states. if that is inevitable china will garner as many as potential allies as possible to urge as many powers to stay as neutr as possible as the message that was delivered to european members at the munich security conference was to stay and exercise strategic autonomy and also, at this point in time, there is really no strategic advantage for china to alienate people who also share their worldview. >> let's rern to moscow and bring you pictures from another event there today. thousands packed into a stadium in the russian capital to hear from president putin as part of a patriotic

but just how much did xi jinping know?ss five continents, according to a senior state department official. >> wow. >> these balloons have gathered intelligence. this program has been going on with president xi's direct knowledge. however, lawmakers brief on this have been told that this particular balloon at this particular time may have been dispatched without the knowledge of xi and also without the knowledge of senior people's liberation army and communist party leaders, erin. >> well, that's incredible. i guess

under president xi jinping ccp has expanded overseas activities of mps.he cooperation as a tool expand its influence and shape global security norms. it is to put understood and as a domestic facing asg a tissue. stated they responsible include law enforcement and criminal justice work. invitation parties include authoritarian political policing such as stability maintenance, for contorted potus, right and of the form of dissent. the mps is a core part of ccp course oppressively upon the main the main tools to maintain political power power and social order. the scope of the international activities can be divided into three categories. number one, unilateral actions including transnational repression and illegal rendition campaigns. number two bilateral engagements include bilateral meetings, agreements, capacity building activities, material assistance and extraterritorial jointex and security patrols. three multilateralnd engagement including grecian new international institutions and activities have been established by such asst interpol. icant chae u

defiantly claiming ukraine's victory will be inevitable, saying he wants to meet with china's president xi. and we'll go to ian pannell in kyiv tonight for reaction after what president biden said this evening about f-16s. >>> the other news this friday night, one-time prominent attorney alex murdaugh testifying in his own defense. what he acknowledged on the stand. >>> we're also tracking the major storm. a second one now set to move right across the country. heavy snow, ice, and dangerous winds. >>> and yet another close call tonight. a passenger plane about to land. another plane cleared for takeoff on the same runway. >>> and one year later, from new york to paris tonight, the powerful images coming in that speak volumes about this day. >>> and good evening tonight from washington, where we just sat down with president biden at the white house a short time ago. the interview comes at a pivotal moment in the war in ukraine. one year ago today, the russians invaded ukraine and this long, deadly war began. we ask the president tonight, how does this war end? will the president send f-16s?

i will remain in communication with president xi jinping. we will prove -- once again to be the most capable in the road. the other thing i want to point out is that we will keep our allies and the congress contemporaneously informed on what we know and i expect to be speaking with president xi jinping. i hope we will get to the bottom of this and i make no apologies for taking down devlin. -- pat cipollone --that balloon. thank you very much. >> there has been criticism that there -- >> -- compromised -- >> give me a break man. >> there has been criticism that this was an overreaction -- >> why happy chosen -- happy chosen poland -- have you chosen poland --

so for him to say that we're well-positioned and saying other dictators don't envy xi jinping, i canee you that putin envies xi jinping and everybody is looking to china for the blueprint on how to neutralize any power that this beautiful country, united states of america, has had over the last couple decades. it's very dangerous. >> martha: how about this exchange with judy woodruff and president biden. it's worth taking a look at what he said when asked about the threat from china and what kind of a difference this particular incident makes. it's a little lengthy but worth listening to it. watch this. >> have relations now between the u.s. and china taken a big hit? >> no. no. >> how do you know? >> i know. i talk to them. >> you've talked to -- >> xi jinping and our team talks to their people. >> during this and distinction? >> i haven't talked to them during this. >> oh. >> but look, i mean, the idea shooting down a balloon that is gathering information over america is -- makes relations worse? look, i made it real clear to xi jinping that we're going to compete fully with china,

maria: especially against xi jinping. >> especially, yeah. you talked about biden shaking in his boots, or president xi, i forget what you said. i'm shaking in had my boots as the geopolitical tensions are hescalating. we seem to be getting closer and closer to potentially a world war iii every single day of the week. maria: i think this is soft war. they breached our sovereignty. this is a soft war. >> to the geo politics of it, we're in a difficult situation. it's been u.s. policy to clevee china and russia away from each other. if the countries come together in a authoritarian consistent consensusagainst the united sta. it could be extremely dangerous moment for our country. maria: very good point. >> there's very few times, i would push back a little on that, in the sense that there's not had that many times when russia and china's self interests you aline all that w. china is the dominant player here. so they basically sub subjugated russia. i don't think we're at the point where had the will kick in lethal aid. >> are we pushing them cl

for example, how can they say that xi jinping may have known. may have not known. in other words, they don't know. okay. we have to admit that we just don't know. in the end it doesn't matter because he is responsible for what his military does. the second thing that i find a little bit troubling with the biden administration's message frankly is that the message that, oh, we're pretty sure they didn't get anything good. as natasha expertly pointed out most of the thing is at the bottom of the ocean so how can they say that? the third thing that is problematic and this is where they've getting flak on the hill is they say they waited ten days to shoot it down so they could aid recovery efforts. they got the nylon but not the electronics. there is one part that you have to have a heavy grain of salt. >> before we -- one thing as you say they didn't want this thing falling on people's homes on the soil and they were able to jam some of these capabilities but still an open question. i want to ask you about this initial assessment as described of xi

maria: he hasn't even confronted xi jinping on china's provocations. >> which he needs to do. maria: it's three years since covid arrived in this country and we still don't know the origins and joe biden won't raise the issue with xi jinping in the five times he's spoken with him. >> it's a little ironic that we're okay with going after putin because of what's going on in ukraine and you're right, with china we're not even calling them an adversary. we're calling them a competitor. maria: that's right. >> and acting like things are fine and dandy with the u.s., china relationship. he's inconsistent on a lot of these issues and that's not necessarily great for u.s. leadership on the world stage. >> china's perspective, they're at war with us. i don't mean we're lobbing missiles at each other. maria: it's a soft war. >> it's a soft war in a lot of different ways. we need to be more pragmatic about what our relationships is with china. we should make no mistake. china should be our number one focus. we can't take our eye off the ball, despite the conditions in ukraine. maria: muc

i will remain in communication with president xi jinping. we will prove -- once again to be the most capable in the road. the other thing i want to point out is that we will keep our allies and the congress contemporaneously informed on what we know and i expect to be speaking with president xi jinping. i hope we will get to the bottom of this and i make no apologies for taking down devlin. -- pat cipollone --that balloon. thank you very much. >> there has been criticism that there -- >> -- compromised -- >> give me a break man. >> there has been criticism that this was an overreaction -- >> why happy chosen -- happy chosen poland -- have you chosen poland -- >> c-span's washington journal, every day we are taking your calls live on the air. we will discuss policy issues that impact you. friday morning, josh: discusses efforts to protect children's safety online. then you deem alera discusses the train the roman in northeast ohio. and the safety of transporting toxic chemicals. and research america president talks about federal investments f

invading taiwan has been xis goal for years. he wants control of the pacific, he is determined to submit his place in chinese history. just six months ago before the chinese communist already in beijing, xi said that the historical wheels of national reunification and national rejuvenate -- rejuvenation r -- -- are -- >> and we -- >> against china, anywhere else would matter much. so what happens if tomorrow we wake up and an invasion of taiwan has begun? what can america do about it? this time, looking specifically at the pacific. they are concentrated on a small number of airbases, which makes them easy targets. and china has invested in weapons, undercutting our airpower advantage. what else do we have? well, we have -- how they're going to help us defeat a chinese invasion. china has built up defenses designed to neutralize them early in a fight or them so far away that they would be useful. now, we do have an undersea advantage, but we only have so many submarines. we've only got so many weapons the fire from them and we've

and now xi jinping just a couple days ago is rescinding the agreement between the s.e.c.'nd the crr audits where he's telling the companies to fire western auditors. i don't know how much more we need to see for the american public and investing public to realize that china is not our friend while xi jinping is running the country. in fact, there are competitors some may say and our worst adversary others may say, i would be in the secondary camp. >> is china investable as an economic or morale proposition is it a place where you would put money and feel comfortable about it the stocks there have gone up a lot over the past six months >> you know, i understand that things trade around and things bounce but when you think about the long-term viability of any investment you have in a chinese entity, i can't imagine you running a risk model or anyone running a risk model today thinking the rewards outpace the risks enough to make the investment in fact, investors and f fiduciaries lost their money in russia the day putin invaded ukraine. i say it's russia today and china tomo

president xi is due to outline his country's plans for the conflict later this week.dent, stephen mcdonell, is in beijing. i asked him for his assessment of china's role in the conflict. as you mentioned, china's foreign minister has issued this rather ominous warning that beijing thinks the conflict in ukraine could spiral out of control, in his words, if certain countries keep pouring fuel onto the fire. we did not mention the us but that is he who is accusing up but that is he who is accusing up pouring on the fuel. china has been accusing the us of prolonging the wall. now, it doesn't mention war or invasion, lest it offends russia but now you have the us saying it is china who is the one making the wall going longer if it starts buying arms and ammunition for the war effort. beijing says it is neutral but research say north america says this country is supplying these dual use technologies, so technology that could be used to fix fighterjets orjoe mcgirr. fighter jets orjoe mcgirr. later this fighterjets orjoe mcgirr. later this week, china's leader president xij