amd getting xilinx, that's a move that intel already made and if you look at what nvidia is doing withrm that, is getting nvidia big time with compute. there is a moefd sahratian there is a mode of operation. and the third point brought in the letter and the company has already done now listen, i am not saying intel hasn't had its basket of issues and it is right. and being integrated design manufacturer but actually increases margins i would love to see and that says they could achieve higher margins without having manufacturing. and as for the value of a spun off manufacturing operation -- >> patrick are you saying that they should be outsourcing manufacturing then is what that what your argument is >> no, actually, i'm arguing that they -- they have the right strategy which is integrated and the directions specifically on this and it literally held up operations >> patrick though, who takes -- rather than, you know, putting it on this, who should take responsibility we had a guest on yesterday who said that the board is asleep at the wheel. and they argued a finance guy is not right