but i like travelling, these companies,xpand, they open up new markets.ir home bas tha providedmpetus for them to could pand. >> if they over dot if they stack their expenses in u.s., andut a higr proportion abroad. neil: do you not think we're chasinghemway, why not be patriotic while w screw you on the wall. >> these are just taxavens. ne: i know tha that. if you or pick out a haven it is beautiful. my point, on this, look. these areore of the exception than will rule, a lot have most of their people here, inhis environmen there is little reason to lock at promising u.s., what is attracting money to pces like switzerland, that its n, inhibiting capital forming a and grrwth, we are. this has been developinnnder republicans and democratic esidents alike with rules and regulations this is a very unfriendly eironment to business. >> tax -- real tax rate for the large corporations, many who pay no federal income tax is 17%, i is not 35% or 30%,hat is the ta rate, due to all loopholes. neil: i know, we canet into this argument. the real taxate in japan now no