yacov: thanks for having me on. a relevant question, the reality is we are seeing starkly different outcomes in different countries. which has notuay, had a lockdown, yet the rate of naturallyis very low, the economy effect is going to be more muted, less pronounced . wee again we look at brazil, are concerned about the rate of infections, how long the crisis will be. how difficult is it to generalize right now, and if you cannot generalize -- actually, we never generalize -- but does it depend on how a leader is handling lockdown, how a leader is handling testing with covid-19? how have the metrics changed depending on h where you put the money? yacov: leadership is important. the crisis was handled aggressively and so on, but at the sometime we have to look at the countries economic parameters, and looking at the response and the impact on these countries through the prism of main factors -- oil prices -- let's not forget oil has also declined precipitously in the past few weeks and months. tourism.d is we are try

short of punishment is not justice enough let's look at some of the matters arising from this with our yacov as a research fellow and lecturer of the fredricka schiller university yanna his book holocaust angsty examines how holocaust memory in the united states influenced to post war west germany welcome to day w. so we have a 2 year suspended sentence and that no jail time than acting as an accessory to 5232 murders does that sound like justice. well i think well 1st of all good evening to you nice to be able to join you tonight. i think that if. on the face of it it's in oh there are a number of reasons. to not consider this you know an adequate or just a sentence the number of 2 year sounds very little but i think the court really took into account at the age of die at the time when he served as the guards and that's one of the reasons why he was tried in a juvenile court and that's why the court had a suspended sentence. so i think. you know considering their overall circumstances it's probably an adequate on its infancy compared to 2 other simple and similar case just ok and i want to