yadi yadda. created the space for that to happen where you could have him engage directly with the audience and say things that you could only take but one way, and so now you are in a space where the candidates themselves are out there going, okay, i have got some arm room here that i can maneuver, and you saw that. maybe it was stream of conscience. maybe he wasn't aware of it. the fact that subsequent to that he did not see the racial overtone and the impact tells you about how comfortable he is in the main saying what he said. >> and we would have to take him at face value he didn't understand. >> exactly. >> thank you both for a great conversation. >> coming up, a passionate plea. the father of mollie tibbetts, the iowa college student killed by an undocumented immigrant, puts out a powerful op-ed telling politicians not to use his daughter's death for political gain. it's time for the 'biggest sale of the year' on the new sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your movement and automatically