they say that nets and yahoo! even going back to the table for talks with mediators is seen as a sign of weak this. you also have been again to spoken out earlier tonight. remember he's a member of the opposition and a former member of nathan y'all. who is unity cabinet who came together at the start of israel's wars calling on this and yahoo to quote for once, be brave and enter into a deal to bring back the remaining is really captive time and time again. there are poles that are conducted in is really media. and when is really respondents are surveyed, most of the time, the majority, 6070 percent of respondents do say, but nothing yahoo has prolonging the war for personal and political gains. so while these families continue to speak out while as really, society continues to protest nothing, y'all has said that he's going to prosecute the works, however he sees fit. that's on the saw hoops in jordan's capital, a capital a manager. i'm to thank you very much indeed. let's talk some of these for are continue and

but nothing yahoo wins for them. so the interest, so these really redeem on not necessarily the interest of the current people sitting around the cabinet table in kind of a bar in the quotes. so, so thought, i mean, what strategic purpose do you think this assassination serves israel? you term it may look to some, as if, as around go to its way and has a account yet another how much data. but history tells us that this, this doesn't actually, and how the us and if you go to it 2 years ago, they killed the, how much you have seen. 20 is they. they had 7 the off of the door. so it's not going to resolve there. there are a problem, a tool in terms of the negotiations. it's uh, it has really announced an end to any possibilities of negotiated supplement over this issue. particularly, i think it sort of looked at a huge risk. the return of the captain's who out have buy from us effectively you nothing, you know who has killed his counterpart, into negotiations and somebody in the, as the head of the political office, he w

yahoo is the problem. we don't want to talk about the us israel relationship or the palestinian question. let's just try to be met and yeah, let's just deeper over this. i think that would be the ideal for the administration too much sort of what happens if they thought the problem situation get some sort of at least sellable when. right. it doesn't have to be a mutual plan. it's about the americans. what else don't need to know the details and frankly, probably don't care about the details of reconstructions or accountability for products any if uh, if they can just say we stopped the guns, we saw the bombs, that would be a huge win for vitamin as a higher as conversely, if that doesn't happen, i think you'll see things really ugly. a few months. donald trump has seen a huge noise about flaming wrongly, that he didn't start any, was the escalated, the vast majority of us conflicts. and he brought us very close to multiple was including, particularly when there are, but that these are above the control, th

but how should the world be responding to what is real and that yahoo have done right now? the key question is, is iran going to begin with some form of a heavily telegraphed response? that's what happened some months ago as a, the is rarely struck. the iranian consulate in damascus, killed more than a dozen people, including 8 members of, of the elite, the revolutionary guard unit of iran. and, but the iranians, although they showered missiles and droned, strikes down on israel. they did so in a calculated manner, there was one death in, in that straight. so the question here is, does iran escalate in response to this assassination on their soil and other attacks against it in line with what they've done in the past? who are we going to witness a precipice being cross? we're now iran actually takes the bait and said we're in all our military conflict with israel. i think there's another dimension here, which is remarkable that israel just killed the person they were negotiating with. who, despite no matter what you think about him off honey, a was considered to be one of t

yahoo is torpedoing a deal. and you know, that would be a joke. but it's not because it should be 18 to american diplomacy and their lives . because these writers being held in because of the 10s of thousands of palestinians to be killed, the hundreds of 1000 displaced saint from one not safe. so to another. and unfortunately, james, i think what we have here is a couple of things. first of all, lots in yahoo, he's now we, they some be a place. it's a comfort zone that he knows well, that he can play alone with the americans because he has them where he wants them, which is they will play slightly off aside during also you could always blame our side. now, one could always blame how much some of those american officials like to go on to write books when they acknowledge we would be israel lawyer. and what he has done, blinked, and the american system is to take a how much waiting listen late may just say, wait a minute, then what you know thing here. are you ready say the 1st phase is the on ramp to a permanent ceasefire. these really didn't want

first left in yahoo, he's now we, they some be a place. it's a comfort zone that he knows well, that he can play alone with the americans because he has them where he wants them, which is they will play slightly off aside during also you could always blame our side. now, one could always blame how much some of those american officials like to go on to write books when they acknowledge we would be israel lawyer. and what he has done blink. and the american system is to take a how much waiting listen late may just say, wait a minute, then what you know thing here. are you ready say the 1st phase is the on ramp to a permanent ceasefire. these really didn't want nothing. yeah. shut that down and they've already written the road proposal so that it can be cops. and these really proposal and so they sees more of an exercise in festival, trying to manage the avoidance of escalation in the region as the us deployed full military to the region. it is also 10. the wrong is the strength is increased. and to pete of these thoughts because with spinnin

so nothing yahoo! his response to bite and saying we think a ceasefire is inside, is to literally assassinate the chief negotiator and then vall that he is not going to stop until when he defines this total victory. which is the other destruction of guys up and the lighting on fire of the entire region. yes. raises the question. it is real, has killed from us leaders in the past. it killed the leader of hamas. the founder shake off mad. yeah, i've seen and others in the past, but that never killed and knocked off a moss as an organization is a movement, as you've said ed. and i think it's one of the most interesting elements here because of the way that, that netanyahu frames basically trying to obliterate hamas and others. i've talked to generals, you've talked to general david, betray us. and that is it from us as a move. and even people who might want to be supportive of netanyahu disagree with the promise that you can basically wipe out a political movement. i love your thoughts, and i know you've

i think that yahoo was very happy to have way. a lame duck president and joe biden right now, because he can really push the envelope on biden's public protestations, and he's doing that he's daring by and actually cut him off, which i don't think by them is going to do. but what i think is most interesting is carmella harris, starting in november of last year, comma la harris was a figure that the administration started to put forward to register empathy for the suffering of the palestinians in a much more pronounced way than other administration officials. and when you guys started, since i'm there for a minute, jeremy, i wanna, i wanna play a sound bike and i think what you said is very, very important. and it's very different. it's something you know, when you're kind of like watching for these kind of, you know, distinct nuances between them. let's play a sound by then want to get your reaction to come on here and speaking. it is time for this war to end. and the end in a way where israel is secure and all the hostages are re

but so i think this in yahoo probably does a lot that escalation the and the sensing yahoo is going to get us support support. uh, no matter what it does. uh, the united states may not kind of been alarmed about that. back on the consulate on the tax on that guest house with uh, just fine, tiny it in it, but the base definitely provided allergic. so there's raves. i get their intelligence from western governments. they get them from westbury, obviously, using the wrong to get them from embassies in country western embassies and countries around the room. and of course, uh they to say the agencies that belong to the united states. and it's the outlines that all use their intelligence as use by, by these are these even in as they turn out that genocide and causal, they're using that information. but just kind of, you know, on the americans. definitely don't want the inspiration because because an escalation would mean the destruction of the global economy. american base is under pressure, both region and iraq. they would all be destroyed. and those countries that post those bases, derek

and at yahoo. today he confirmed to me that his real accepts the bridging proposal that he supports it. it's now incumbent on him, us to do the same. and then the parties with the help of the, the mediators, united states, egypt, and told her i have to come together and complete the process of reaching clear understandings about how they'll implement the commitments a how i'm austin is well, how to read in principle, to implement a 3 face frame book proposed by us preston joe biden in may. but that the collapse of to nothing yahoo is set to have made new demands unless they've hijacked him is even on the phone. we don't need more negotiations. we need to agree on an implementation making his own. when blinking says these riley's have agreed, and then the is riley's say that there is an update to the document. that means that the american administration is giving into the is riley prussia and not the opposite. the us has now provide the details about the printing proposal and as well and how miles h

yahoo! even though he understands and that's in you all's interest is quite clearly different from that of the united states. us interest very clearly is not in favor of a further escalation in the region. certainly not a war in the region that could drag united states into it. the question is, of course, then at what point went by then show the backbone to actually use the leverage that the united states does have. but he has chosen not to use us far to actually press these rates to back off, which is of course arms shipments to is are without those are ship arms shipments. these readings would not be able to continue. the war according to one is randy general. they would have to have some more within 5 days if united states stop providing the ammunition and additional lessons. i'm interested in this political equation of so called leverage that we seem in the united states unwilling to use. why do you think that is? i think bided made a very strategically solid calculation from the outset

yahoo! even though he understands, and that's in you all's interest is quite clearly different from that of the united states. us interest very clearly is not in favor of a further escalation in the region. certainly not a war in the region that could drag united states into it. the question is, of course, then at what point went by then show the backbone to actually use the leverage that the united states does have. but he has chosen not to use us far to actually press these really to back off, which is of course arms shipments to is or without. those are ship arm shipments. these readings would not be able to continue to work according to one is really general. they would have to have more within 5 days of united states stop providing the ammunition and additional lessons. i'm interested in this political equation of so called leverage that we seem in the united states unwilling to use. why do you think that is? i think bided made a very strategically solid calculation from the outset when

yahoo is really media is saying that he is not budgeting. there is a large school of thought among his really society that isn't. that's when y'all enters into a deal, it would have sensually me the end of his political career. so there are a lot of conditions, nothing yahoo has laid out for these really negotiating team while they're in doha . but it's still too early to tell exactly what's going to happen. okay, i'm go stand by. there are a few things we need to put on our viewers radar and we want to hear you again on the back of this. a spokeswoman for the spokesman, beg your pardon for the military wing of hamas says the armed guard who kills and is really captive on monday, acted after and his really attacked, killed his 2 children. he said the incident does not reflect the groups, ethics or religious teachings and added it would take measures to better protect captives in the future. israel has responded saying that the picture released by hamas. what you're seeing now is from november of last year. and it is real, the families of is

they say that nathan, yahoo shouldn't have even sent a delegation to del how for talk. so there's so much pressure from the family members of captive saying, but enough time has gone by and there are still around a $110.00 top is still being held in gossip. but despite all of the public disapproval, despite all of the demonstrations, nothing y'all was seemingly on phased by it all saying that he's going to prosecute the war. however he sees fit and not even if there is a pause in the fighting. that's in young says he wants to guarantee that the war could continue after that. something that is not boating well with these really public. how does a, who's in the jordan's capital i'm on, i'm to thank you very much. indeed. israel is killing or palestinians in this trip on the occupied west bank continues in the body of refugee camp in northern garza, is really showing has killed at least 7 people. one of the buildings bombed was the home of problematic. i'm to conduct, we have to recover the bodies of his own family. most of them were killed and he is very striking. but he

on the one hand, the republicans have embraced the 10 yahoo a whole heartedly and unconditionally. while on the other hand, the state department has been more measured. uh certainly they've been defections and resignations in the state department, so we're seeing it really all dynamic. you're on fold and it'd be interesting to see how that relationship evolves under a possible harris presidency or a trump presidency. honda is, i'm just interested under whether you think the police, the political situation in the us right now is having any impact on, on economic use, current thinking. is he perhaps escalating to ensure that but should a less sympathetic president take the white house it but when the election in november check the white house on january, the hands of tired as far as the contract is concerned? absolutely, the narrative here in the united states is completely pro, is a, it's almost as if the genocide in gaza doesn't exist. it's really imagining how those, any pro palestinian sympathy here or etc, for the plight of the palestinians, given the dominant narrative in the p

and this in yahoo has maintained that. he won some sort of condition, a guarantee that the war would be able to continue. even if there is a pause in the fighting secured, even if there was a deal to bring about the release of the remaining captives. and this is something that promises is a red line for them. what are we been hearing from? is there any prime minister benjamin netanyahu as well let's and y'all has spoken several times today. the 1st at his weekly cabinet meetings saying that his role is ready to go into a ceasefire on the terms that work for them, that they had discuss this with mediators back in doha. and the media mediators rather should be applying the pressure on him us and yes, yes, and watch rather than israel. and remember the us secretary of state, and to me blinking is going to be meeting with nothing yahoo tomorrow on monday in order to apply that diplomatic pressure to get nothing yahoo to soften his sense. now later in the day on sunday we heard from nets and yahoo essentially slamming is really

is this is not something that... should agree to or any palestinian should agree to, um, but netan yahoo wants to avoid, he doesn't want an actual ced, he wants to continue this, so he wants to have as many proposals that make it very difficult for hamas to come to any agreement. yeah, and speaking of which he continues that moson to um add more uh stipulations to any type of proposal, he continues uh to change it, and i want to look at, i mean as these talks about a cease fire is taking place. i mean the regime is continuing to commit murder. 15 members of the same family, nine of them kids were just killed in gaza. this this place family have been living in a warehouse which the israeli regime targeted and bombed, and as we speak, people are still starving to death and being killed and having to walk and walk and look for safe place to rest, which of course doesn't exist. so let's start from here, if they're really serious about a ceasefire, why aren't they putting more pressure on? israeli regime to at least allowed food and basic supplies to come in, well it's because they're not ser

uh then yahoo! but when he did a lot about to gaze for her mind as whatever it gave for god's as i being a chicken for k, etc. that ridiculous throwaway actually captivated more people, even though nobody could understand what it was that they were laughing about. what it was that the connection maybe perhaps i don't know if it's called pink wash. i have no idea. when i heard this, i thought that's going to be the line. sure enough. i went straight to social media one after another. that was it. so i don't know if it's because of his really is it knowing how to target a particular medium or theme or trump, or always that silly do we do? we miss? is this all it takes to divert the attention of what's really going on? apparently. so i answered my own question. yes, you did. and stanley, i mean, but that's a very, it's interesting that line or mention that because i wrote that down too. but i wasn't exactly sure how, how i would use it. but the fact of the matter is, genocide is a put into the context

and then yahoo said that his country is ready for whatever lies ahead. as citizens of israel, challenging days lie ahead. now that since the striking baby boots the rest threat sounding from all directions and we are prepared for any scenario, we will stand united and determines against any threats is very well exact, the heavy price for any aggression against those from any arena, hold 0 actually. i my 1st guest is certain 25 years in israel's defense intelligence community, and that includes being head of it's iran and research branch is now with the atlantic council and specializes in the middle east national security and intelligence. i'm happy to welcome back to the program, danny, it's a trend of it standing. it's good to see you again. it's good to have you on the program, you know, as well as i do, the middle east has been a power cag for a long time. what do these 2 killings at the top of his below and tomas what did they mean for the risk of it all? well, wider were breaking. yeah. well uh them send you having the uh, i think that, uh, uh, as i

is that your read on what nets in yahoo wants as well? again, it's really hot so easily to i'm like 0. i've been trying to have a lead use when. ready assistive, especially if any else, but i would say this, i think that the, it's made that the, uh, from the civic product over it was obvious that these right would be going to, it's our, him. but the main problem right now is that you mentioned is the fact that we have no other choice in that regard. those are between of ceasefire and i'm not sure that the killing is made. let me uh, would it get us closer to these problems that need to in, in terms of reaching that agreement, anita ron of negotiations. boma come us at the cutter. i think i'm like seeing a blog he was interested in looking at a deal. again is not a good many of the parents are very bad man, but if you want to release of hostages, things of kidding i'm you know, i'm not really getting us closer to where we want to be. i think now we have to wait a few. the quote to you guys, hopefully a why that's what we sort of deal. so t

yahoo has probably a joyous over this appointment at the same time. i mean, there is a flip side to that and that is that nothing? yeah, that was responsible for the assassination of this. i'm gonna have you. yeah. so if you're an outside observer who was a, you know, looking at penny and the negotiations that we're having in a call to as good faith negotiations that may have led to somewhere. then you know nothing, you know who is responsible for the outcome of the killing of negotiate or a, and the set back into those negotiations. and if you're in israel, a has a family member as a hostage there, then you might be upset over that kind of thing that yes, it's in water is the, you know, the boogie man that has been portrayed to these really public. but at the same time, nothing yacht, it was, you know, responsible for his rise as the political leader within him mass as opposed to you know, the, it's not any type of figure up beverly. um, let me ask you how well, how about us go about balancing military strategy and political calculations going forwar

so this visit by blinking is aimed at really applying that pressure on us and yahoo. but these really premier has said throughout the entirety of this war of over 10 months that in the face of whatever pressure is, even if it is from allies like the united states, israel will still prosecute the war, however they see fit. and that's, and yahoo has also said that his role will act with or without support of the united states until all of the goals of the war. our chiefs and we've heard from uh, is there any prime minister benjamin netanyahu today? he's given a speech referring to those sci fi tools which concluded indo yesterday. what did he have to say exactly? well, there's really prime minister has. so the mediators should be putting the pressure on him, us rather than on israel, and not the terms that is real has are known. there are red lines that he simply will not cross in his weekly cabinet meeting. he addressed the fact that there are talks on going on that there is some positivity within them. but that is real still is in these talks with its red lines with i

so there's so much pressure on us in yahoo to try and get a deal done. you have domestic pressure from his own government, from these really public and you have international pressure from allies like the united states. and in fact, the us secretary of state and to be blinking will be arriving. and israel on sunday to meet with nothing you all on monday in hopes of him accepting a deal. maria, thank you home, the cell who attend an online and just remind to that the the alger their team is reporting from jordan because israel's government has banned out 0 from broad costing inside the country. and then on your own, i spoke to how my spokesman, osama having done who told me that it is the position of benjamin netanyahu, that it is essentially creating the obstacles to reaching an agreement. i need everyone on the sense now that the what, how much has to the last 6 months is to that been a minute to now i just don't, i'm not getting what she meant to be. in fact, it is, i is the and those 2 days negotiation in the bios was by the americans 24 joint based o

but at the moment, nothing yahoo remained stubborn in his position. and it is a hurdle that the united states might not be able to get over to get this deal done on this. how much have to take and getting this deal done? obviously gaza is the priority, but we've got the tensions in the middle east waiting for ron and hezbollah to respond. there is speculation that they're waiting to see what comes out of the sci fi talks before any of his phones that is correct right now. one of the reasons blinking said that this is the most important time to try to get this deal done is not just because they want to bring home is really kept, is get a win for the buy the white house. as the us election cycle comes up, it is because this is the best and perhaps the only way to limit this from the limit this conflict from expanding further. we're expecting iran and his bullet to retaliate as announced in recent weeks for attacks carried out into ron, inside loving on. and they, and the united states. the mediators for these talks know that if this deal does not work,

and the majority, which kept bringing, it's on yahoo! back to government. uh, but uh, its gotten worse since october 7, a given the holistic nature of a mazda is attacking the ongoing hostage situation. so it's not a, it's not even a time now to be discussing a 2 state solution. but the argument that i've been making since october 7th is that if we don't discuss it now, we are fated to see more october sense because of the israel's, to the terrorism counter insurgency, operation, gaza, will create a more militants, more terrorist. and unless there is a pathway to an outcome in which there can be palestinian self determination and independence say, we're really watching a situation that will recur. it's almost groundhog day in the middle east. how do you get to an independent state and autonomy? when you look at the reality of facts on the ground and you look at how palestinian communities had been blocked off from each other, even in the west bank. you know, i'm just sort of interested as what, what part of palestine is any, is available any longer for anot

y'all, who still has a hard in stance in the negotiations just last month, minutes and yahoo himself released a list of 4 non negotiable items. but he said were read lines. that israel will not concede on in any sort of talks or negotiations. but we do know that it is really t will be heading to cairo for talks on sunday. what about the domestic pressure inside of israel with protest is again taking to the streets of tel aviv you're looking at nearly 40 demonstrations across the country. the biggest of those rallies, intel would be like we see every week we've been covering these protests for more than 9 months. people are so frustrated, so angry with these really governments saying that nothing yahoo was neither capable nor willing to accept a deal more than 10 months into this war. they say that they want to over throw nets and young who's government. they want to cease fire deal, they want new leadership and elections immediately. and in fact, some of those family members of is really captives who were speaking outside of israel's defense ministry, known as the kid. he said that t

no yahoo knows this. he knows that no matter what he does, military support for his real will continue and he can continue to do what he wants . so in terms of any serious pressure coming to bear, most likely his growing on popularity domestically is something that blinking can use to push nothing out to go for a deal. but people here remain cynical and they remain negative about this having any sort of positive outcome going forward. yeah. then no doubt will be coming to you as soon as we hear what's come out with those tools. but now that is zane bus lobby live in i'm on a lonely l as a former director general of israel's ministry of foreign affairs. and he says, expectations of an attack on the vaughn has up the stakes around blankets, laces, tripped as well. this was this lady that we didn't have to get the you i am despite a lot less false to that email from me. uh, it usually is. oh, i live and a, he's call me, we the america shapes the summary. a blinking, i'll see you enough to see the side of the

so let me get back into my b b method, yahoo brain, i'm now be net and yahoo and i'm going to say to you, it doesn't matter that we, you know, don't have that kind of powerful military to occupy and control the theater in a traditional sense. because you know what, i got, i got the united states of america. in fact, i just went there. i spoke to congress, i'm more of the present united states and the present united states is. and when i decide that i'm ready for a full out war, i don't need it is really military. i got u. s. military. well, i think the us as well. we don't, we definitely not really sure what happened in the us and what i wouldn't know. what exactly is the us fence, but i'm pretty sure there's some ceilings but nothing. yeah. who cannot, cannot really. yeah. you know, it's transgress. so that's why that's why you end up having key leaders killed because that's really the, the, the most you can do in terms of the impact while at the same time, not being able to invest yourself military to be much right. because i think at the end of the day, regional ask all out war in