bitcoin and just got in this past spring and we covered up paul tudor jones but he was just on yahoo finance and he said he was also saying some interesting stuff namely that the price of bitcoin is wrong which is really interesting billionaire hedge fund manager paul tudor jones on because i'm going to assume that it's the wrong price for the possibilities that it has and i'm going to assume that the path forward from here is north yeah i remember he uses the term precious crypto to describe bitcoin versus let's say neither what she calls more like copper which is an industrial crypto or industrial digital coin and you have the precious crypto which is bitcoin and so you would value it like metals right gold has a huge premium copper does not and this is why you see or even these other all coins will never achieve anything the near the what bitcoin has because they're just like industrial metals versus precious i remember talking to james turkey 8 years ago i was trying to explain to him what bitcoin was over there at gold money and i said you have to think of it as precious numbers preciou

rick newman is a senior columnist with yahoo finance. good to see you.o try to get a stimulus through. do you think janet yellen and her team will have better luck? >> a great question. we are talking about the party group members of congress agreed on around 900 million of stimulus. seems like nothing will happen until the two georgia runoffs on january 5th and see who will control the senate. i guess they are both to roll the dice, i mean, biden today did make the point that whether there is an interim stimulus bill in the lame duck session or not, we are going to need robust aid for the economy once he takes office on january 20. if republicans control the senate as they do now, i see no reason why mitchell mcconnell would raise his bid which is 400 billion stimulus and maybe 700 billion but nowhere near the 2 trillion that nancy pelosi wants. >> you know how many millions of people have been struggling just through this whole pandemic. you look at the numbers on wall street and they totally don't jibe how people on main street are feeling. stocks are