but yahya sinwar would definitely ya hya sinwar would definitely have — yahya sinwar would definitelybeen one of israel's biggest _ have been one of israel's biggest targets. there have been — biggest targets. there have been occasions where it has been — been occasions where it has been claimed he has been successfully hit in a strike and — successfully hit in a strike and they have proved to be false, — and they have proved to be false, but there are several indications that they may have -ot indications that they may have got yahya sinwar this time but we will— got yahya sinwar this time but we will have to wait and see. one — we will have to wait and see. one of— we will have to wait and see. one of the reasons why people have _ one of the reasons why people have been cautious at this estate _ have been cautious at this estate is— have been cautious at this estate is there has always been an assumption that yahya sinwar has always been surrounded by a human_ has always been surrounded by a human shield of several israeli hostages. there are 101 hostages. there are 101 hostages sti

yahya sinwar, important he is to hamas. yahya sinwar. his _ important he is to hamas.ya sinwar, his latest _ important he is to hamas. yahya sinwar, his latest position - important he is to hamas. yahya sinwar, his latest position as - sinwar, his latest position as the overall leader of hamas. i've been in qatar when they chose him and they said he is the one who will order the 7th of october attack and one hamas leader told me that this attack belongs to him so he deserved to be the overall leader of the movement. yahya sinwar was in prison for quite a long time, more than 20 years in the israeli prison, then released backin israeli prison, then released back in 2013 following an exchange deal between hamas and israel to release the captive soldier. since then, he quickly became a big figure in hamas. he was almost in control of the military wing of the movement. his brother mohammed was running part of hamas in khan yunis and even before he became the head of the movement, he was the leaderfor the head of the movement, he was the leader for hamas in gaza, which i th

yahya sinwar is widely seen as the architect of the october 7th attacks on israel which sparked the year—long been israel's number—one target. dna tests were carried out to determine whether sinwar was one of three people killed during a ground operation by israeli troops in the city of rafah today. sinwar is the third senior hamas figure killed by israel in its military operation in gaza. he became hamas chief following the assassination of ismail haniyeh in iran injuly. israel says mohammed deif, commander of hamas�* military wing, was killed in a strike on khan younis, also injuly. he's said to have survived seven israeli assassination attempts. president biden says yahya sinwar�*s death marks a good day for israel, for the us, and for the world. in the last hour, we've also heard from the us vice president kamala harris. she said us operations and intelligence personnel had worked with is really counterparts to track down yahya sinwar and other hamas leaders. israel has a right to defend itself, and the threat hamas poses to israel must be eliminated. today, there is clear progress toward

its war aims of destroying hamas and freeing hostages have not been achieved, so killing yahya sinwarbiggest victory yet. the hamas organisation that sinwar and others built before the 7th october attacks is largely broken. left of sinwar is ismail haniyeh, hamas political leader who was assassinated injuly. israel doesn't let us into gaza to report. but this reaction in khan younis, sinwar�*s birthplace, was filmed for the bbc. translation: this war is not dependent on sinwar, - haniyeh or mashal, nor on any other leader or official. it's a war of extermination against the palestinian people, as we all know and understand. the issue is much bigger than sinwar or anyone else. translation: many leaders have been assassinated before him, - like ismail haniyeh, but someone else will always step in and the struggle will continue. back in israel, a few people stopped to celebrate at the forensics lab where sinwar�*s body was taken. israelis are relieved and happy that their enemy has been killed, but hamas still has its hostages, is still fighting, and will get a new leader. jeremy bowen,

ya hya yahya sinwar was ya hya sinwar was not yahya sinwar was not the first and won't be the last. military solution is not the one that would cure all of the ills in the middle east. there should be a political solution and this might help all parties to come up with something that would push them to agree on a ceasefire deal. a correspondent at bbc cat might verify talked me through the work they are doing. we've spent the last couple of hours of bbc verify looking through some of the pictures and footage and source material available just to recap on what we do know. the statement from the idf dropped just before 2pm uk time, there was a strike, we don't know where, the idf says three terrorists were killed and they are working to confirm if one of them is the hamas leader, this man, yahya sinwar. the idf has also said there is no sign of hostages in the area where the strike took place. at verify, in this situation, we look for all the material from gaza which can help us confirm what has happened and to build up more of a picture about what has transpired over the last few hou

and thus yahya sinwar's passing if you will the killing of yahya sinwar i think goes down as one of the great winds of counterterrorism. >> so i can have often thought about what his strategy was. you just mention his ability to code 1200 people he took 250 people hostage and we will learn more of the details but it was thought he was surrounding himself with some of these hostages in order to protect himself. some reporting that hank went in and fired on his house and he said something to the effective basically he ran like a coward something along those lines. obviously we will learn more. what you think his goal was? did he know that kind of barbaric attack would than see an enormous counter attack from israel? during which we've seen a number of people have players around the world started shaking her finger at israel. was that his goal? to be so horrific that he would produce this very enormous counter attack by israel? >> i think that's excellent analysis absolutely true. point number 1 of his desire was to do everything he could to damage the status of israel and think how coward

who might replace yahya sinwar? and will it make hamas, eitherthrough yahya sinwar?through choice or circumstance, more or less open to the idea of some sort of hostage exchange? the hostages, unfortunately. _ hostage exchange? the hostages, unfortunately, i— hostage exchange? the hostages, unfortunately, i don't _ hostage exchange? the hostages, unfortunately, i don't think - unfortunately, i don't think hamas knows exact leeway they are, and i don't think some of the corpses will ever be found. hamas is over. hamas as we know it is over. politically. soa so a military organisation, rather than a political organisation, is that what you're saying?— organisation, is that what ou're sa in? ,, ., ., you're saying? less than that. also militarily. _ you're saying? less than that. also militarily. they _ you're saying? less than that. also militarily. they have - you're saying? less than that. also militarily. they have had| also militarily. they have had several huge blows. but hamas is not an army, it is a national liberation movement. that means that to turn gaza or a

hamas leader, yahya sinwar is dead, killed in a gunfight in the southern city of rafah, according to eli officials. if you thought the death of sinwar, the master mind of october 7th. the man who almost single handedly inflamed the middle east and threw israel and palestinians into a horrific war, would finally bring peace, his death, that is, is not the case. at least not yet. in a fiery speech of his own, benjamin netanyahu said the war continues, the mission is still unfinished. >> for those who are willing to lay down their arms

i am not here to defend yahya sinwar .re to say that we can't talk about who yahya sinwar was, or what hamas is, without talking about 76 years of colonialism , of apartheid, of mass killing, of mowing the lawn, of controlling the calories. yahya sinwar's death, the white house is saying this provides a moment to sort of pave it and make a settlement. and what does netanyahu do in response to those speeches from kamala harris and joe biden and john kirby? he doubles down. he goes full force, final solution on the people of northern gaza. yes, let's talk about yahya sinwar , but my god, we cannot watch more children being shredded and say that this is okay. that this is just a political issue. >> and i was actually going to get to that, because i was going to ask you, based on what you've outlined for us about him, i was going to say that despite the killing of yahya sinwar, israel's most wanted man, who is their excuse for basically doing everything as the mastermind of october 7th, we are still seeing attacks against pale

and we are still waiting for confirmation as to whether or not it is in fact the head of hamas, yahya sinwar who has been killed in this strike. i do want to ask you, just sort of a knock on to this. he does have a brother muhammad sinwar who all of the other, many of the other commanders around him, senior commanders around sinwar have been killed and that's what he does have a brother who is known to be a more experienced ruthless person than the people who have been at the top of hamas would there be a sense that they will be worried about potentially his brother then taking the reins or would this be a moment where israel looks at this that hamas is completely decimated. and as you said, starts to back out of this war well ruthless from eisha sinwar anybody can be, you know, a person that gave the order to conduct the biggest massacre of jews since the holocaust. >> i'm not sure. i mean, it's so, it's an already, pretty high bar on the other and i think hamas is decimated it is not functioning anymore as a military organization and you get sinwar was a symbol for hamas and for its member

the holdout was yahya sinwar. if he is in fact and outed as a result of this idf attack today, however this new person may be represents, to the biden administration, a possible new opportunity to try to restart these talks as soon as possible. >> there's a real sense of irony in all of this. for months and months now, joe biden and kamala harris have been trying to convince netanyahu to stand down, negotiate some sort of cease-fire that would leave hamas in place. if they had done that, sinwar would still be alive, would certainly live to fight another day. now that netanyahu has ignore the pleadings of the biden administration and harris, yahya sinwar is dead and there's the possibility for a new beginning. >> no mistake about it -- there's going to be a great sense of relief that he's been taken out. nobody was hoping for him to live a long, happy, prosperous life inside of the tunnels in gaza, but the reality of diplomacy is you can't necessarily get up to the podium and say we are thrilled by the development

would you imagine by now they have multiple points of information to tell this was yahya sinwar. they wouldn't say it was sinwar if they weren't sure of it and what are they doing now after collecting his body. >> the resemblance was the initial tip-off that they might have killed sinwar. they would need dna and because he was in prin for many years they have a lot of dna and with the body then, it's not just a fingerprint and it's actual dna they can test and have conclusive and be confident that this was, in fact, sinwar. now again what they're going to do with the body, they'll try to respect the islamic customs. whether or not they'll reach back to sinwar's family somehow, but i'm sure they're going to take care of body in the appropriate way. now that they have the confirmation through dna i don't think there's any more proof that they need that sinwar is actually dead. >> so how far, do you think beyond saying sinwar is dead, we got him and that, frankly, david, this is the work of the idf and this government. how far do you think benjamin netanyahu will go to where this lea

in the wake of the killing of yahya sinwar and that without any kind of immediate clear successor to sinwar, that, that chaos could actually put the lives of the hostages in danger, either because some of the guards might want to carry out revenge and kill the hostages, or because they are the hamas guards are not sure what to do with them without any kind of long-term plans. so a lot of uncertainty, but certainly this is going to change the picture, changed the game in gaza and in the region going forward, dana so much uncertainty, jeremy, thank you so much. if you get any news, obviously, raise your hand and we'll come right back to you. speaking up. i want to go to kylie atwood at the state department. kylie, you have some new reporting after speaking with your sources about what is happening there and what it could mean going forward? >> well, dana, us officials, i'm talking to even privately are making no predictions at this moment about what the potential death of sinwar would mean for the israel hamas war. we have heard in the past that it would be game changer for this conflic

at the very top of that chart was a photo of yahya sinwar's. him that the israelis had taken out, he would use a sharpie and put a x over their face. he said "we will hunt down sinwar." never questioned in the mind of the israeli defense minister that he would be killed. it was a matter of when, not if. as we look forward, the big question now is what does this mean for the israeli hostages who are still being held inside of gaza? they were taken on october 7th. 101 of them are still in gaza. -- the hostages families form commends the security forces. the men and women and children -- the elderly women and children being held in by gaza. the strategic moment to find a way to get the remaining hostages out of gaza. they understand time is running out, they know hamas is -- is operating on the ground across the strip. the war in the north continues. the potential israeli operation against iran on the horizon. a lot of moving parts here. the latest information that we have, israeli officials are working to confirm that they did indeed kill the lea

do you know why they might not have been around yahya sinwar? there was talk he was surrounding himself with hostages to keep himself safe. >> katy, sinwar was running away like the filthy terrorist he is. he was saving his own skin. and of course all of us need to remember that it's hamas which stripped these hostages, and it's still holding them. we know at least 36 of them are no longer alive. are killed by hamas. some taken as dead bodies on october 7th. some of them unra employees who took those dead bodies on october 7th. but we know that the others are alive. some of them we think are close by him in rafah, in other parts of gaza as well. let's not forget that the whole world, as the prime minister made clear this evening, said we should not go into rafah. all eyes on rafah, you know, we went into rafah because that's where the leadership of hamas was and we are taking them a i part one by one, but the prime minister said this evening, it is our highest priority. our highest priority to get our people home. it's an open sword in israeli so

but we turn now to the major development out of the middle east and the death of hamas leader yahya sinwar. yesterday, israeli defense forces posted this on social media, announcing they've eliminated the head of the terrorist organization. israeli troops found sinwar by chance in southern gaza on wednesday, ending a year long search for the man believed to be the architect of the october 7th attack. officials say troops were patrolling an area of rafah when they noticed three terrorists fleeing from house to house. the two sides then engaged in gunfire, and all three militants were killed. it was only then that israeli forces suspected one of those terrorists might be yahya sinwar. the idf later ran dna tests to confirm his identity. nbc news correspondent hala gorani has more on this from tel-aviv. >> reporter: we have new details on the operation that led to the killing offiah ya-sin war, the leader of hamas. we were briefed by hagari, one of the spokespeople for the israeli military. he showed and projected drone video showing the last moments of yahya sinwar, sitting slumped in a chai

a senior hamas official has given the group's first response to the killing of its leader, yahya sinwart is becoming stronger and more popular. in a statement, basem naim, who is a member of hamas' political bureau, did not directly confirm mr sinwar�*s death, but he said israel was mistaken in its belief that killing the group's leaders would mean the end of the movement and the struggle of palestinian people. in israel, people have been digesting the news that sinwar is dead and what that might mean. here's the view of some locals injerusalem. i hope it's going to bring peace as soon as possible and quiet and not a war. it should be stopped the way the war should stop and i hope it's going to be a positive stage for the state of israel. for israel maybe one of the first steps to to end this, to end this war. of course, as netanyahu said, as long as they'll give up and stop and give return the hostages. genuinely good news, i think twice over, first of all, - because he was an evil manl and 45,000 people are dead because of him, notjust . the people who were killed on october seventh,

let's return to our top story, official confirmation from hamas that their leader, yahya sinwar, wasilled by the idf in gaza yesterday. just in the last few minutes the uk prime minister saying there was a need for a ceasefire. our analysis editor, ros atkins, takes a look at the footage released by the idf — showing yahya sinwar�*s final moments before he was killed. have a listen. this is a video filmed by an israeli drone as it enters the building where hamas leader yahya sinwar was killed on wednesday, and at bbc verify, we have confirmed the location of this building in rafah in southern gaza and we have studied satellite imagery of the area. as the drone enters a first—floor room, we see a man sitting in an armchair. he is moving and appears wounded. he waves an object and then for as it apparently at the drone and after this israeli forces killed him. but it wasn't until soldiers returned on thursday that they realise they may have killed the leader of hamas. a dna match later on thursday confirmed this. the building where yahya sinwar was killed is here, in a northern area of

now, as far as this patrol happening upon yahya sinwar, where they sinwar in the three total. of three people, but he was apparently with there's a lot there are a lot of situations in war where the area is shaped in essence by previous operations. so in this particular case, jim, what you had was, of course the bombing campaign of the israelis, the intelligence efforts, all so those different things coming together in a way that forced sinwar into the tunnel system or into the housing system. we're not sure exactly where he was spending most of his time, but i respect election wasn't it was mostly in tunnels, but he was clearly on the move when the patrol encountered him. that part was the big coincidence that the patrol happen to be there as he was moving if it is indeed him. and that kind of coincidence is the kind of coincidence that can change the course of the war, can change the course of combat and if it airs out, then we have the fact that he is israeli troops involved were doing their job. i and of course, this whole battlefield, if you will, was shaped by the previo

one lone holdout, one sticking point and that sticking point, though he never said the name, was yahya sinwar. when the vice president is talking about a new opening, a potential pathway to get back on track with cease-fire negotiations, she is implying that the future leader of hamas whoever succeeds at sinwar might be more open to that than he was. whether that is eyes in the sky fantasizing now or it is a real tangible possible outcome remains to be seen. it's why the reporting from trey yingst about who is in the succession line over the middle east and in turkey is so important. we are waiting a state department briefing now. we are hoping to get more clarity from the spokesman here about what they believe this could all mean for the cease-fire talks. as we talked about last hour, it is a moment of great enthusiasm and optimism here on the part of the biden administration officials no matter what everybody has been saying publicly. >> sandra: gillian turner, we do expect we will have the audio from that gaggle with matt miller on air force one shortly and we will certainly play that out

hamas official has given the group's first official confirmation of the killing of its leader, yahya sinwar warned his death in the gaza strip would only strengthen the movement. the us has called on hamas and hezbollah — as well as israel — to seize opportunities for "change" created by the killing. the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, is holding a security meeting to discuss the possibility of negotiations on a deal to free the remaining

it was only then that israeli forces suspected one of those terrorists might be yahya sinwar.na tests to confirm his identity. nbc news correspondent hala gorani has more on this from tel aviv. >> reporter: we have new details about the operation that led to the killing of yahya sinwar, the leader of hamas. we were briefed by daniel hagari, one of the spokespeople for the israeli military. he showed and projected drone video showing the last moments of yahya sinwar sitting slumped in a big chair in a bombed out house. the drone captured images of him. he appeared injured. he threw a piece of wood at the drone as it was flying, as it was coming close to him in that building, and then we understand according to hagari, that israeli forces fired at the building, killing the individual. it is only the following day that israeli forces conducted a sweep of the area and realized that the man that they had killed looked, according to the soldiers on the ground, a lot like yahya sinwar. they identified him through fingerprints and dental records. they had all this information about ya

well, up until now, the working assumption has been that yahya sinwar was likely killed by tank fire. that is what the israeli military has suggested as they said, that this exchange of gunfire that happened initially with sinwar and two other palestinian militants, ultimately ended with israeli tank firing a shell into the building where he was where he was wounded but now i've actually spoken today with the man who conducted the autopsy on yahya sinwar's body, dr. kugler, who is the chief pathologist as israel's national center of forensic medicine. and he tells me me that he is confident that it was a gunshot wound to the head that killed sinwar the cause of this is gunshot wound in the head. >> here's a bullet in his head and there's a severe traumatic brain injury injury from other sources, like a missile oil injury in his right forearm fallen masonry on his left leg, or tie, more and many sharpeners that shrapnel entered his body, but only in the chest. they caused the severe damage but the cause of death is the gunshot wound to the head and i asked the israeli military for comm

also, the details on the death of hamas leader yahya sinwar. we spoke to the pathologist who performed his autopsy and how a cutoff finger helps get the dna to identify him. that's ahead here in tel aviv as hell. i work hard. i scraped to get by donald trump wants to give tax breaks to billionaires, but kamala harris has plans to help us she's going to crack down on price gouging and cut taxes for working people like me. i voted for donald trump before, but this time i'm voting for kamala because responsible for the content of this ad. >> hey, folks, chris kuhnian here with lee filter, america's largest gutter and gutter protection company, lee filter as over 150 locations and has been installed on over 1 million homes within protect and homes now for over 20 years, our patented technology offers hello protection for your home and comes with a lifetime transferable warranty. the process is simple. give us a call to schedule your free gutter inspection. if you decide to move forward to project, you pointed nothing down at all a33 leaf filter or

curious about who the really government would then be negotiating with, who fills the shoes of yahya sinwar in this situation. and what does it mean for hamas? militarily well, i think right now militarily hamas is going to want to continue the fight because even with sinwar gone, they're not going to want to admit defeat. >> they still have hostages unfortunately, as a bargaining tool. so that is going to have to be dealt with on one front by the same token, hamas leadership is now going to have to figure out does that leadership reside in a four-star hotel hiding behind the qatari's and being able to do things they're or they in fact going to appoint someone that's on the ground and currently engaged in combat operations against the idf so i think to a point, hamas needs to appoint the leader that the netanyahu government can go shaped with. that is in a position of authority that the fighters are now going to listen to, to be able to really have meaningful hostage negotiations because well, it may be hostages, hostages, hostages. you have to be able to negotiate with a group as a whole a

is helping and was helping israel track yahya sinwar.lear evidence that the israeli account of them finding yahya sinwar almost by accident seems to be true. i think there is no question the u.s. has been tracking american hostages in gaza. this is interesting because the u.s. is spying on the israeli air force. essentially satellite photos of israel moving plans around and do some missiles. u.s. with these leaked documents show they are watching that and trying to figure out how large a u.s. attack or an israeli attack might be your allies espy on each other, but it shows the political sensitivity of all of this because of the election. biden is trying to thread the needle where he says i want to prevent the loss of more palestinian lives, but i am still a close ally of israel. i think again that just has a ton to do with the november 5 election and him and vice president kamala harris trying to not leave themselves open to being attacked or not supporting israel enough donald trump. >> to come back for a moment your team noted that thi

yahya sinwar was the biggest obstacle for a deal and his recent death created an opening for an agreement. this is about 40 minutes. >> ally calling his excellency, the secretary of state of the u.s. mr. anthony lincoln. we meet here today, one year after the war on gaza started. the conflict has evolved to no income based in lebanon and other regions in the middle east. our meeting today was an important, meeting. the continuous efforts between the state of qatar, the u.s., and egypt and our partners in the region to reach a solution. first, to stop the war. and, to relieve the hostages and detainees. unfortunately, since the beginning of the war, we have been working against the expansion of the conflict to other areas other regions of the middle east. we see that today the war has expanded to lebanon and other areas. that is why we had a discussion on ways to stop the war in lebanon. this has taken up a large part of our meeting today. we discussed how to reach a pressing and urgent solution to end this attack on lebanon and abide by the united nations security council resolutions espe

israeli officials are awaiting dna confirmation of the possible death of yahya sinwar, the head of hamas. the white house says president biden en route to berlin, germany, has been briefed on sinwar's possible death. the national security council deferring all details on the strike to israeli officials. joining us now, nbc news correspondent, erin mclaughlin in tel aviv, and chief correspondent richard engel is on the phone, chris o'leary, senior vice president for global operations and former director of hostage recovery for the u.s. government. what do we know out of israel at this hour? >> reporter: well, jose, the israeli military has long referred to yahya sinwar as a dead man walking, and now this hour an israeli official tells nbc news it was very likely that he was killed according to a source, it happened in an operation that took place yesterday. there was heavy gunfire exchanged, serious gunfire in the words of this source. today, they discovered the body, that body has now been sent for dna tests. we are waiting for final confirmation. but, again, this israeli official is say

as long as yahya sinwar was that military terror leader of hamas in the gaza strip. there was no way to go he was not willing in any way to negotiate over the 101. now there is that opportunity so what we had heard from many reports from from the qatari government was that hamas had broadly agreed to some terms for a cease-fire and a release of hostages are you are you saying that from what you can tell that was not true and sinwar was the obstacle i think that president biden himself has said that also hamas is not just yahya sinwar. >> so let's be clear. he's dead and there will be somebody else in his stead, but he most definitely lead a very hard line idea, both in planning and executing the horrific attack. as you mentioned before. but from then on, having very hard stance when it came to the negotiation, hamas that said in qatar, hamas that sit outside have slightly different opinions. this isn't about hamas suddenly recognizing the state of israel, but it's about a willingness to arrive at some kind of resolution that could work for both sides. >> and what is

israel said its forces have killed hamas leader yahya sinwar in southern gaza. i government said dna testing confirmed sinwar was one of three people killed during a ground operation. the israel defense force added soldiers had been on sinwar's trail for months. officials hold sinwar responsible for organizing and directing the october 7 attacks last year that killed more than 1200 people and resulted in 250 hostages being taken. sinwar rose to prominence within hamas after he was released during a prisoner swap in 2011. israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, said people suffered a blow as a result of sinwar's death. >> this is a milestone in terms of taking down the people rule of hamas. hamas will no longer rule in gaza. it is the beginning of the day after for hamas. this is the opportunity for the residents of gaza to liberate yourselves from tyranny. >> your leaders are running away and they will be taken down. if you take down your weapons and return our hostages we will allow you to come out and live. let me also say if you hurt our hostages, you wil

i would ask hamas not yahya sinwar, who is dead. and in that sense, i will not miss him and whoever comes in his stead i'm going to ask them, why are they using all of the gaza strip as their protection? why are they not letting the hostages out? why are they acting as if all of this is not their own? on fault? >> no, i get that. and of course, getting the hostages out through the ceasefire is clearly a central goal. but what i'm trying to get at is what then there's the broader goal because there are people in israel who as you know, who say, well, what we need as a kind of de-nazification of the god of the intact hi gaza strip of the oval palestinians i'm trying to get how would that be achieved and his all this bombing going to achieve that, where where does this go? oh if this is not the point at which two to stop so first of all, i'm with you. >> i would like to stop. i did not want this war. i want it to be over i want the 101 hostages to be home in my heart goes out to what has happened to any innocent civilian, any uninvolve

not showing to our audience at this time and they certainly do bear a striking resemblance to yahya sinwar. hamas's leader and israeli officials are also working with that assumption that sinwar is very likely dead. they are waiting to get dna information of whether or not this actually was the hamas leader. but i'm also now learning jim more details about exactly how the man believed to be yahya sinwar was killed and i'm told that this was not the result of any kind of special operation. it wasn't intelligence-driven, rather, it was regular israeli infantry troops on the ground gaza conducting routine military operations, spotting a group of what they believed were hamas militants and ultimately engaging them. and then it was only after the building where this body was found that the troops then notice that it appeared to be sinwar, that then set off alarm bells in the senior ranks of the israeli military and the israeli government and set off the process that is now underway to officially confirm through dna analysis whether or not this was indeed yahya sinwar. make no mistake, jim, if i

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he showed and projected drone video showing the last months of yahya sinwar sitting slumped in a big chair in a bombed out house. the drone captured images of him. he appeared injured and threw pieces at the drone as it was flying and then we understand that israeli forces fired at the building, killing the individual. it is only the following day israeli forces conducted a sweep of the area and realized that the man they had killed looked, according to the soldiers on the ground, a lot like yahya sinwar. they identified him through fingerprints and dental records. they had all this information about yahya sinwar, because this is a man who had spent 22 years in israeli prison and was release only in 2011. two other people were also killed. we don't know what their names are or what ranks they held within hamas. now, the hostage families have reacted. of course they are hoping that this development will bring them closer to the day they are reunited with their loved ones. and palestinians as well inside the gaza strip. one of our teams caught up with ordinary palestinians in the besie

expressed as clear as could be said that yahya sinwar, the mastermind of the october 7th attacks, is . the way he was killed i think is very interesting. for months, u.s. and israeli officials believed that sinwar had been hiding in caves -- excuse me, hiding in tunnels underneath the cities and villages of the gaza strip. that he had at times gone off the grid. the only communications with him were through a handful of aides who had direct contact. he didn't use cellphones, similar to other leaders, like the hezbollah leader. but israel found other ways was with walkie talkies and pagers. in this case, it seems that yahya sinwar was moving around, was in a building above ground, that he was with at least two other fighters. the images that you've seen, andrea, we're not showing yet, they're very graphic shows someone very much like sinwar dressed in a military-style uniform, a gun near him, shot, may have been other damage in a building that is completely destroyed. his body identifiable, but showing lots of -- many different casualties. so if that is him and this is, in fact, confir

who is the successor to yahya sinwar. l conflict is going? who is the | successor to yahya sinwar.ee a breakthrough but if not we see we will be back where we started. . ~ we will be back where we started. ., ,, ., , started. frank lowenstein, thank you _ started. frank lowenstein, thank you very much. - there's much more analyis on the killing of the leader of hamas — on our website — including this piece from our international editorjeremy bowen. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news in the uk. a seven—year—old boy who died in a house explosion in newcastle — early on wednesday morning — has been named as archie york. the blast, which happened just before 1am destroyed three houses in the area of benwell. police also confirmed a second person was found dead. an investigation into the cause of the explosion is under way. the wife of a conservative councillor has been jailed for 31 months after pleading guilty to inciting racial hatred on the day three girls were murdered in the southport attacks in july. lucy connolly fr

and with the death of yahya sinwar there's a potential that the organization of hamas is disintegrating, at least that's the one of the lines of analysis of what might be happening now, it's in a state of chaos and in the state of flux that's been dealt to him heavy blow that there's no doubt about that. and so netanyahu has been appealing directly to sort of on the ground, hamas commanders to release hostages. they may be holding in exchange for some kind of clemency so met them live of course, that that wasn't something that was extended to sinwar and that's this leaflet drop as well, showing that the israelis are pressing every button they can pulling every lever to try and get some advantage in terms of hostage release from the killing of its most reviled hamas yeah and of course this comes as we're learning more about his death. >> i mean, obviously they're hoping that his death, the way he tied could hope to spur on some change from the hamas militants, who knows if that will actually happen. but tell us more what we're learning about how sinwar what's actually killed. >> yeah, i

someone like yahya sinwar has been killed. clearly, this is a victory for israel, but i think at the same time, we have to be cautious about what is likely to happen in the coming days and weeks and months as a result of this killing. >> nbc's keir simmons, thank you very much for that update. jonathan lemire. >>> joining us now on this conversation, editor in chief of the jewish news outlet, the ford, and former "new york times" bureau chief, jodi, thank you so much for being here this morning. simply, sinwar, the mastermind of october 7th, finally brought to justice. what does this moment mean for israel and the path forward? >> i mean, it really depends on what prime minister netanyahu decides to do. it is clear that sinwar was an obstacle to a deer by saying hamas needed to stay in power, but netanyahu has been an obstacle to a deal by saying the idf needed to stay in gaza. it is now time for the prime minister to declare victory. they said their goals were to dismantle or destroy hamas. they have dismantled and destroyed

and now its real leader, yahya sinwar.ir entire chain of command has been disrupted and destroyed. but that doesn't mean the organization is dead and buried and can't operate anymore. unfortunately, you know, the break of the chain of command and the disruptions in any kind of command and control and communications, means that it's difficult to deal with and difficult to anticipate. ostensibly, they have -- [ inaudible ] that makes it much more difficult to deal with and fight against. >> if it's difficult to deal with, does that make it more complicated when it comes to any kind of negotiation for a cease-fire and hostage deal? >> you know, i heard, ana, the president immediately after the killing of sinwar and then again right now on your show and in germany, i also heard the vice president say similar things. you know, i think there is a misunderstanding in washington on the immediate implications. people there may be thinking that conditions were not right for a cease-fire and a hostage deal before sinwar, but thousand

attentional bathers, it's not ioo%, but there is a strong chance that the rat from the tunnels known as yahya sinwar celebrations started as the first reports were posted on social media during the afternoon. they knew sinwar�*s death would be a big victory for israel and a big defeat for hamas. israeli soldiers took photos of a dead man wearing combat gear who looked like sinwar. the man was killed by a tank yesterday after a chance encounter with an israeli unit. yahya sinwar spent 22 years in israeli jails for killing four palestinians who'd collaborated with israel, so the security services have his dental records and dna. injail, he learned hebrew, studied his enemy and believed he had worked out how to fight them. on the 7th of october last year, in a meticulously planned series of attacks, sinwar and his men inflicted israel's worst—ever defeat. and a collective trauma that is still deeply felt. the killing of civilians, the hostagetaking, and the celebrations of their enemies recall for many israelis the nazi holocaust in the second world war. israel's response, a year of war, continued this

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we did not know with certainty that one of them was yahya sinwar and then we returned fire. the tank fired, and then there's a period by which you cannot just walk into a building and id, you have to clear the area. there could be multiple terrorist, it could even be an ambush. and so very carefully, our troops moved into the building. these are special troops who've come under fire from hamas terrorists operating in tunnels for over a year. eventually when they identify that the building was safe to enter, they came inside and they saw him in the rubble. at which point they saw resemblance. but as we know, it's taken a number of hours. we match both dental records and his dna. and if we want to try to remember how we have these brianna, as you know, which is that yahya sinwar said in israeli jails, more than ten years in fact, he was operated on a life-threatening brain tumor by israel. israel saved his life. and then he was released in a hostage deal in 2011. and the only way of course if he paid back israel was carrying out this terror attack. if i could just add one more

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neil: we know that yahya sinwar is dead.thern gaza yesterday but israel confirming it confirming the arch terrorist responsible for the murders and atrocities committed on october 7th that many acts of terror, by idf forces means the three masterminds of the october 7th attack have been taken out to say nothing of a dozen hezbollah leaders from the top down to some of the henchmen. the cockroach theory continues with many fearing get replacements will come in and the terror threat remains real but israel indicating we know where to find them and we will never give up looking for them. brian brenberg and the big money guys are now. brian: hello, everyone. i am brian brenberg. jackie: i am jackie deangelis. taylor: i' m taylor riggs. brian: kamala harris dumping in the swin

on wednesday, the israelis didn't know who they were hunting when they cornered yahya sinwar at the back by releasing this footage, the israelis are helping to build a legend. sinwar, fighting to the death, too wounded to stand, throwing a stick at the drone before they killed him. israel doesn't let us cross into gaza to report, so we asked palestinian journalists in there to gauge opinion is for us. translation: its notjust about sinwar or that the war stops. - this isn'tjust a war over food and drink or life itself. we need to restore the dignity of the entire palestinian people. translation: | admit, - i've been wrong about sinwar since the 7th of october, like others, i misjudged him, we thought he was hiding but he was fighting, he was armed and engaged in battle. translation: there are many others, i don't know if the war| will end or not, everyone wants the water end but we don't know full stop may be god have mercy on all the dead. israel senses weakness in hamas without sinwar and more combat units went into northern gaza, ignoring american pleas for more humanitarian aid inste

does the death of yahya sinwar make it easier to bring a ceasefire?israel feels they have not achieved their goals in gaza — they have not eliminated hamas and brought the hostages home — then a ceasefire is going to be unlikely. does it bring an end to the war in gaza? not immediately, no, which is very depressing for those people who have survived a year of onslaught there in gaza. and also desperately depressing for the hostage families who are still demonstrating. there are placards in tel aviv saying, "now end the sinwar," making a pun out of yahya sinwar�*s name and the sin war, you know, w—a—r. of course, let us not forget there is full—scale war going on between israel and hezbollah in southern lebanon, not evenjust southern lebanon, in beirut and the bekaa valley. that's not going to end either immediately because hezbollah is still firing rockets into israel, still the houthis in yemen also firing missiles at israel. much depends, as i say, on what happens with iran. remember israel has vowed to retaliate against iran for the october 1st bal

you all. -- i thank you all. >> a state department spokesman briefs reporters after the death of yahya sinwar. his death was confirmed by israel. mr. sinwar who had been in hiding over the past year is believed to be the architect of the october 7th attack on israel. state department for today's press briefing. live >> yahya sinwar the leader of hamas who was killed in an israeli military operation in gaza yesterday was a brutal, vicious terrorist responsible for the death of american citizens israelis, and civilians for more than 30 countries across the world. his decision and it was very much his decision to watch the terrorist attacks of october 7 unleash add year of tragedy in the middle east. 1200 people murdered on october 7. 254 hostages kidnapped and hauled into gaza including children, infants, elderly and men and women of all ages. more than 40,000 people dead in gaza, many of them civilians. that is the blood soaked legacy that yahya sinwar leaves behind. he didn't just launch this conflict but for the past year has refused the efforts of the united states and our partners to end i

shows what the israelis say is one of their tanks attacking the building that the hamas leader yahya sinwar on thursday the army released another video, that showed an israeli drone tracking sinwar filming him slumped in a chair covered in dust and as the drone hovered nearby it showed him throwing a stick at it in an apparent act of desperate defiance. not long afterwards, according to the israeli military tank shell was fired into the building. our international editor jeremy bowen is injerusalem — and has been looking at whether yahya sinwar�*s death could change the direction of the war. i think there is potentially an opportunity there because he was a very dominant figure on the hlas side and now he is gone so potentially there is more flexibility. however, it is only an opportunity if the parties concerned want to take it. now, khalilal—hayya who was his number two, he was based in doha in qatar, i went to interview miss couple of weeks ago, he did a speech today and he said very defiantly that the hostages won't return until the aggression and our people in gazais aggression and our