you're yale, stanford's columbia's. they put a thumb on the scale for people who write in their personal statement you know i want to blow up and change the world and, you know, burn down these institutions and, remake them in this view that's going to get you more points than if you say you want to child molesters or you want to make markets more efficient for consumers, something like that. and admissions deans are complicit in the the transformation into activism rather than education. and the other thing is mismatch you know stuart taylor there is in the back wrote an amazing book detailing how when you apply identity and you end up with people of members of racial minorities clustering in lower quartiles than people observe, the school must be systemically racist. why are, you know, the racial minorities underperforming much more than everyone else so that you know creates an activist cycle in and of itself as well as leading to failures where. you know, if you calibrate again, admissions, right, which hopefully so

from yale i have the dreaded duster takes -- dissertation. somebody will ask you a question that presents you with the opportunity to do more than you ever imagine what you might do. and so i was talking to the president of the melon foundation, julie earlic. i had asked for funding for a solo show they was working on. and this was probably 2019, 2020. and this was a long set of conversations with a number of foundations trying to get my poetry book "felon" into a one-map show. i had got support from that. and julie said to me, now you've gotten support for your solo show. do you have any big ideas? >> i said we put millions of people in prison. why don't we put millions of books in prison. the books would operate as ice cubes in that the people are like the water and prison is like the glass. i imagine if you fill a glass with ice cubes you put enough in there, you begin to notice when it's overflowing. and that tells you that you need do something different. i imagine if we put enough books into prison will make us think about the people in

sunday night, ex-convict, poet and yale law school graduate recommending nailed betts wrote "letter from birmingham jail. an organization that he founded that builds libraries in prisons. >> the judge might have not been under an illusion and saying i could get something out of it if i tried and this is a testament that i got something out of it but i came home to a world where it might feel overwhelming and might feel like it is absolutely hard to make a way when you have hurt somebody in the past but i have created more opportunities for people to to reflect on the ways in which he changed and what king said the beloved community. >> sunday night at 8:00 p.m.

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we're also getting this from vice president vance, a graduate of yale law school. don't forget, he writes, if a judge tried to tell a general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal if a judge tried to command the attorney general and how to use her discretion as a prosecutor, that's also illegal. judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. respond to that. what does the constitution say when it comes to powers of the justice system and presidential powers? well, at least interpreted. >> by the court in one of its foundational cases, marbury versus madison, we learned that in the first week of constitutional law at yale law school, where i also am a graduate, the power goes to the court to determine what the law is. the executive's function is to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. so i would respectfully submit that vice president vance might forget some of his foundational constitutional law, at least in terms of what powers are accorded to each of two coordinate branches of government. honore. >> i do want to

by the way, this is a yale law school graduate. so the notion that the courts have cannot stop the executive from doing what he wants, the notion that the executive may have the option of defying the courts, that is completely beyond even what the most extreme right wing conservative theory in favor of broad executive power has ever argued. now, look, there is a very broad view of executive power. sometimes it's called the unitary executive theory, which holds essentially that the president is all powerful within the executive branch. but even proponents of that theory do not say that the president is free to disregard an order of the court. if that were to happen, that is a line in the sand that has not been crossed. donald trump did not cross that line in his first four years. he has not crossed that line in his first couple weeks here in his second term. but if we get over that line, then we've got a major crisis. and i think it's irresponsible of jd vance. i know he didn't quite go there, but he got pretty close to even suggest

segÚn el laboratorio de presupuesto de yale, el hogar estadounidense promedio perderÍa hasta 1.200 $ de los productos que podrÍa costar mÁs es el aguacate, que proviene de mÉxico. alejandro godina tiene mÁs detalles. >> ocho de cada diez aguacates que se consumen en estados unidos provienen de mÉxico, segÚn la asociaciÓn de productores y empacadores, quienes piensan que su producto es castigado con los nuevos aranceles. >> para mÍ va a ser un costo mÁs, pero ellos ellos lo van a tener que que pagar. si hay mÁs impuestos, los paga el consumidor final. >> la amenaza de donald trump para obligar a mÉxico a controlar la migraciÓn y el trÁfico de fentanilo se hizo realidad este sÁbado. >> primero, mantengamos la calma. >> para este experto en relaciones internacionales con la imposiciÓn de aranceles, no hay un solo ganador. >> el impacto es inminente. que va a haber va a ser el incremento de costos, no? ehh, de todos los produos que se eh comercian entre mÉxico y estados unidos. >> empresarios mexicanos manifestaron que esta medida, lejos de fortalecer la relaciÓn trilateral, introduce un

so jose is man in stephen yale. this was 15, the youngest 11. in december, a military squad forced them into a patrol car as they walked home from a football match. it was the last time they were seen alive. after weeks of searches and mounting accusations of official abuse, their burn bodies were found your military base cut the boosters mother of the 2 of the boys demands answers. some of the parents have received good traits. and my little meal is now was just a kid, a good kid. happy kid. he left football and dreamed of becoming a professional player. i want justice and i want the people responsible to really think about what they've done. my kids weren't troublemakers venus for case, as it has been named after doing, published the neighborhood. a sparked outrage in a country already reading from a precedent to drug game violence activists say the government's iron fist approach back fired with troops killing and disappearing. innocent young men, especially after like with dorians who knew these boys, they would criminals just kids playing f

. >> sunday night on c-span's "q&a," ex-convict, award-winning poet and yale law school graduate reginald dwayne betts is our guess. he wrote the afterword for a new edition of dr. king's "letter from birmingham jail" and talks about the book and president trump: they were under no illusion sending me to prison would help. but i can get something out of it if i tried. and this is a testament that i got something out of it and came home to a world where it might feel overwhelming and it is absolutely hard to make a way when you have hurt somebody in the past. but i came to a world that is radically changed and shifted and created more and more opportunities for people to reflect on the ways in which they changed and to be welcomed back. sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on sunday. listen to c-span now app. >> house minority leader hakeem jeffries discussed tax policy during his wkl

(keyboard clicking) (woman screams) he also got into yale law school, which was a big deal.te a paper while at yale about how the government had eroded the constitution since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. it was highly regarded and even won an award. tasha: and he had all these bright plans for the future. he kept saying what the country really needed was a group based on people who had sworn an oath to the constitution. man: i... all: i... -do solemnly swear... -do solemnly swear... that i will bear true faith and allegiance... that i will bear true faith and allegiance... ..to the united states of america. ..to the united states of america. tasha: one of the names he had written down was oath keepers, and so i thought, "well, that's a winner." yeah, i mean, i thought... ..what's not to like, you know? (laughs) right? you're gonna keep your oath to the constitution. what could go wrong? (laughs) (crowd rioting, shouting) man: i was invited here by the president. an angry pro-trump mob storms the u.s. capitol. female reporter: what you're witnessing is, i think, fair to say, u

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yale had a number out over the weekend estimating a loss of $1200 in household income per year becauses. even trump himself is admitting americans will feel some pain for this historical example that tariffs on washing machines raise the price of washing machines about $90 unit. there's a lot of impacts that are not even going to be seen for tax foundation through 4000 jobs lost as a result of the tariffs. four tenths of 1% of gdp. the fact is we import a lot of good. >> caller: force of all fruit is imported. about one in five pairs of shoes. lot of imported and lot will be affected. sporty say the president says there will be painted. here's what he said in a truth social poster today. taking on the wall street journal namely cinque make your product in the usa and there are no tariffs. why should the u.s. lose a trillions of dollars in subsidizing other countries? why should these other countries pay a small fraction of the cost of what usa citizens pay for drugs and pharmaceuticals? as an example of this to be the golden age of america. will there be some pain? yes, maybe and maybe

q&a ex-convict, award winning poet and yale law school graduate reginald dwayne betts is our guest. he wrote the afterword for a new commemorative edition of dr. king's letter from birmingham jail and talks about the book and the work done. by freedom reads, an organization he founded that builds libraries in prisons. you know, the judge might have been under no illusion that sending me to prison will help, but he did say i could get something out of it if i tried. and i think that this is a test the minute not just that i got something out of it, but that i came home to a world where it might feel overwhelming. it might feel like. like it is absolutely hard to make a way when you have when you have hurt somebody in the past. but i also came to a world that is radically changed and shifted and created more and more opportunities for people to to reflect on the ways in which they've changed and to be welcomed back into what i like to think of. as king said, the beloved community. reginald dwayne betts. sunday night at 8 p.m. eastern on c-span q&a. you can listen to q&a and all of our

the yale budget. >> lab estimates. >> by more than $1,000 per. american household. >> this is. >> a strategy of being a bully, and sometimes you get your way in the very. short run by. >> being a bully. >> but ultimately. >> it rallies everyone against you. others get. >> their backs. >> up, and whether it's the. >> playground or the international. >> arena. being a. >> bully backfires. >> the biggest winner from. >> these policies. >> xi jinping. he gets an excuse for the. economic difficulties china's happening having, because he'll be able to blame. >> it on the. united states. >> he gets much. >> more receptivity. >> to chinese. investment to chinese. >> led borrowing. >> to chinese trade. because we're being so truculent with countries that are our traditional allies. >> one of the. >> things that donald trump. >> has. been saying this weekend is that the last time he put tariffs on china and those tariffs were continued to a great extent by president biden, that it didn't cause inflation. true or false? >> it raised the. >> price level rela

. >> robert storr, former dean at the yale school of art, was a curator at the museum of modern art inms in 1986. >> i think some of the work is really unpleasant, but it doesn't mean it's not serious. >> what's unpleasant about it? >> the imagery is vulgar. vulgar means many things, means of the people rather than of the elites. >> it's taking an object which the new york elites might look at and think, oh, that's tacky, that's trashy, that's something you buy in a gift shop. and it's blowing it up and making it perfect and saying that this has value? >> it has meaning, not necessarily value. but it has meaning. >> what is the message of that? >> the message is that it is there to be embraced, that it is not to be mocked, that one should not be smugly sure of one's own taste to the point of denying the possibility of other tastes. >> and is he being honest about that? >> he's being totally honest. and i think that he has made all of that fair game in a way that we have not seen since warhol. >> like andy warhol, jeff koons has a factory of sorts, an assembly line of painters meticulou

sunday night on c-span's "q&a, ex-convict, award-winning poet, and yale law school graduate talks about the book and the work done by freedom breeds, an organization he founded that builds libraries in prisons. >> the judge might have been under no illusion that sending me to prison would help. he did say i could get something out of it if i tried. i think this is a testament not just that i got something out of it but that i came home to a world where it might feel overwhelming. it might feel like it is absolutely hard to make a way when you have hurt somebody in the past, but i also came to a world that has radically changed and shifted and created opportunities for people to reflect on the ways in which they have changed and to be welcomed back. >> reginald dwayne betts sunday night on c-span's "q&a." you can listen on our free c-span now app. on tuesday, the chair of the federareserve gives an update on the economy and monetary policy before the senat banking, housing, and urban affairs committee. his fit appearance in frt of lawmakers since the 119 congress begann january. we will

i mean, basically, that's a i think any way i is at yale for the 90's, babies, orange, red and violetzard blue magic mint mulberry and others are some of the other colors. an exact date on when this is hopefuls. i just here read that purple, just it's a hollow dandelion coming up on kron. 4 morning news. >> have have warnings. but now there's another case of bird flu and it is in san mateo county. it's in >> and another school is system in san jose is considering closing campuses will tell you what they're dealing with. and cleanup efforts underway in the north bay to and elsewhere after deadly flooding. we're going live look at that in a minute. for all those making it big out there... ...shouldn't your mobile service be able to keep up with you? get wifi speeds up to a gig at home and on the go. introducing powerboost, only from xfinity mobile. now that's big. xfinity internet customers, cut your mobile bill in half vs. t-mobile, verizon, and at&t for your first year. plus, ask how to get the new samsung galaxy s25+ on us. >> right now, the kron 4 morning news. dramatic video showin

yale law school graduate reginald duane betts. he wrote the "letter from birmingham jail" and talks about the work by freedom reads an organization that builds libraries in prison. >> you know, the judge might have been under no illusion that sending me to prison would help. but he did say i could get something out of it if i tried. this is a testament not just that i got something out of it but i came home to a world where it might feel overwhelming. it might feel like it is absolutely hard to make a way when you have -- we have murder somebody in the past. but i also came to a world that has radically changed and shifted and created more and more opportunities for people to -- to reflect on the ways in which they changed and to be welcomed back into what i love to say the king save the community. reginald betts, on q&a. you can listen to q&a on our free c-span now app. >> up next, vice president j.d. vance speaks at the international religious freedom summit. his speech came after they pause most of the agency for international

she's taught at saint mary's college, the university of kentucky and yale university. and she's the author of a superb book, penman of the founding biography of john dickinson, as well as quaker constitutionalism and the political thought of john dickinson. thomas kidd is research professor of church history at midwestern and the john and sharon yeates endowed chair of baptist studies. he's the author of many books including, most recently, thomas jefferson biography of spirit and flesh. we discussed on we the people recently, and his other books include god of liberty a religious history of the american revolution, the great awakening, the roots of evangelical christianity in colonial america and a benjamin franklin religious life of the founding father. and patrick henry first among patriots and vincent phillip munoz is associate professor of religion public life in the department of political science at the university of notre dame. he is the author most recently of religious liberty and the american founding natural rights and the original meaning of the amendment

harold koh is professor at the yale law school and a former state department legal advisor. so help us understand this. why is this plan different than bush's was? >> previously. >> guantanamo was only held. >> to. >> hold people. >> who were trying to. >> come to the united states for the first time. >> and have never. >> entered the country. this unprecedented plan. >> would take. as many as 30,000 people. >> so the president. >> says. >> and move them from the united states. >> where they're already. >> in immigration proceedings to. >> guantanamo. >> to sites that have. >> not yet. >> been built. >> the migrant. operation center, which is already there, currently. >> holds only about 100 people. >> and they're. talking about scaling that up to 30,000. the reports show that there are maybe 3000 beds being. >> added. >> but we're talking about tenfold. >> increase beyond that. >> yeah. and one of the things that that donald trump has said is that this is where they're going to send violent, dangerous criminals the worst of the migrants who have come into this country. even

yale's jeffrey sonnenfeld thinks he knows what trump trump's about face is about.sociation with losers like the plague or the pandemic. sonnenfeld writes, and he's quick to avoid feeling like he's on the losing end of a negotiation, smelling defeat from putin's myriad military, economic and diplomatic failures, trump does not see putin as a worthy ally. furthermore, he resents putin presumptuously acting as if he is the puppeteer controlling trump, desperate for a deal, end quote. joining us now is michael mcfaul, who served as the u.s. ambassador to russia from 2012 to 2014. he's msnbc international affairs analyst. i would take it that, ambassador, your recommendation to most americans is don't get in touch with the kremlin. don't don't call their tip line, don't don't phone, don't text them. don't do this. >> absolutely don't do it. and don't click the button. >> because where you're at. >> but it is extraordinary. i looked at that video. >> and it is. >> just a sign of our times. >> it's a it's you wouldn't have. >> seen this five. >> ten years ago. >> because

. >> at yale suggest that. >> the tariffs. >> were going to cost consumers around $1,200 a year in increasedrices, the largest tax increase that we've seen on families since the 1990s. and so he walked back that again, no. >> shock there. >> but as you're saying, it's not a permanent walk back. he's walked this. back temporarily for the next 30 days. >> who knows. >> where we're going to go. >> from there. do that research. get those numbers about the $1,200. just yesterday, it wasn't all just, oh, we're going to do the calculations in the past 24 hours. i mean, these numbers have been out there for quite some time. the trump administration knew full well what the impact would be, or at least they should have if they were doing their due diligence. do you have a sense that that that this was never really something that donald trump wanted to follow through with, that this was always about, you know, him playing strongman on the world stage and wanting to appear, make it look like he's getting concessions. >> listen, trump has said tariffs are. >> his favorite. >> word in the dictionary. and

york times magazine's emily bazelon, one of the leading legal journalists in the nation, an author, yalels, and co-host of slate's political gabfest podcast where she rocks the mic but in a different. >> way than the game woke up. then i signed rockefeller right when j&j. >> you can hear here and rocks mikes like he rocks rockefeller chains. we'll get into that. that's actually some of the music you're hearing right now. here's a few more of that and other tracks. >> i'm making in new york. no way going around it had the crown so long my skin started growing around me. you got it started. i got it recorded. you're not important. you are genetically predisposition to be in a prison. we need deep in the system than a fetal position. we mentally beat the submission completely. >> his new projects. the members only show latest album god's timing. he's collaborated with beat alumni benny the butcher. memphis bleek recently performed with method man at new york's legendary sob's club. >> in fact. >> our field reporting took us into the spot that night and we can confirm it was pop. >> nice. >>

he is a law professor at yale who litigated guantanamo and guantanamo related issues, and later served as a senior diplomat in the clinton and obama administrations. his latest book is the national security constitution in the 21st century. professor, great to see you. >> good to see. >> you, fredricka. >> so past presidents have utilized guantanamo bay to house migrants, including haitians, cubans. i actually have spent some time in guantanamo covering when the haitian and cuban refugee crisis had reached a particular peak, and using those facilities. but how do you see the trump administration's plans either mirroring or differing from those efforts? >> well, they differ. >> in a way. >> that makes them really impossible to achieve. first, those cases you described all involve people who are coming to the united states and had never entered the united states, and therefore hadn't acquired various kinds of rights. the people who he's talking about bringing there now have been in the united states, and they're subject to what are called removal procedures, where they're supposed to det

it's an interesting argument from a yale law graduate. and by interesting, i think i mean confused and relevant. essentially, it all comes down to this definition of legitimate power. and that's why we have courts when there's a disagreement, to decide what that term actually means. >> well, you answered your own question, but this is a red flag. this is a red flag, because what it suggests is that they're setting things up just in case they want to disobey a court order. they're trying to undermine the courts and say, and i will give them credit. they've been consistent in saying this for years, that there's this unitary executive and anything the president does within his sphere is legitimate. but what happens if, for example, the elon musk data that he's giving out to and handing out to all kinds of people that he worked, that worked with him, who aren't government employees? what if that's not legal? what if that causes problems? who's to say that the emperor has no clothes? the answer is, since 1803, it's been the united states supre

. ♪ >>>> tonight on c-span's "q&a," ex-convict, award-winning poet, and yellow school graduate -- yale school graduate reginald duane betts talks about his book and the work done by freedom of reads. reginald: you know, he might have been under no illusion, but he did say i can get something out of it if i try, and i think this was a testament not just that i got something out of a but that i came home to a world where it might feel overwhelming, it might feel like it is absolutely hard to make a way when we have heard somebody in the past, but i also came to a world that it has radically changed and shifted and created more and more opportunities for people to reflect on the ways in which they change and to be welcomed back into what i like to think, as king said, the beloved community. >> reginald dwayne betts tonight on c-span's "q&a." you can listen to all of our podcasts on the free c-span now app. >> this week on the c-span networks, the house and senate are in session. the house will consider legislation establishing new penalties for evading u.s. border patrol agent in car chas

. ♪ >>>> tonight on c-span's "q&a," ex-convict, award-winning poet, and yellow school graduate -- yale school graduate reginald duane betts talks about his book and the work done by freedom of reads. reginald: you know, he might have been under no illusion, but he did say i can get something out of it if i try, and i think this was a testament not just that i got something out of a but that i came home to a world where it might feel overwhelming, it might feel like it is absolutely hard to make a way when we have heard somebody in the past, but i also came to a world that it has radically changed and shifted and created more and more opportunities for people to reflect on the ways in which they change and to be welcomed back into what i like to think, as king said, the beloved community. >> reginald dwayne betts tonight on c-span's "q&a." you can listen to all of our podcasts on the free c-span now app. >> this week on the c-span networks, the house and senate are in session. the house will consider legislation establishing new penalties for evading u.s. border patrol agent in car chas

he has, a historian at yale university, the author of a number of books, including kissinger's shadow empires workshop, fordlandia and end the myth, which won the pulitzer prize. and finally, we are joined by goodman, the host of democracy now for america's leading independent news program, 1996. amy goodman is the author of six books and the winner of gandhi peace award and the i.f. stone medal for journalism. so please welcome our wonderful panel here. so, bev, we're starting to. so if everyone just make sure to speak directly to mike so we can get capture everything here. so tell us, you tell us about when you first came to work and, professor chomsky's office. you entered a world that i think of as chomsky world, and it a remarkable experience. tell us a little bit about chomsky world. so why is that split that? yeah, i think there's a just a switch testing. yeah. okay. so i actually it was supposed to be my easy job because i was going off to visit to finish a master's degree in psych but somebody interviewed me it was actually john's father interviewed me so i didn't even noam u

the university of uh, at yale. but the interesting thing is you hardly ever that you hardly ever see this picture anyway. he had an idea of how he thought propaganda should be done, and it's an astonishing today when you think about it. he came up with the idea that as soon as the war started, this is he he does this about a month, two months before we go to war. but when is becoming inevitable, we will go to war. he came up with the idea that the center of propaganda should be the journalism school at columbia university. think about that. the journalism school at columbia university that spring semester, the journalism school had said, you don't have to go to class anymore if you don't want to. you can just start doing pre-war propaganda arguing for the war. and we'll give you credit credit pretty right. pretty amazing. the pulitzer prizes, it just started at this point and they gave a prize. they decide to give a prize for an academic of academic writing. it's the only time they ever gave one. and that year they

. >> sunday night, on c-span's "q&a," ex-con vict, award winning poet, and yale law school graduate rebel nald dwayne betts. he wrote the afterward for dr. king's letters from birmingham jail. and talks about the work done by freedom reads. an organization he founded that builds libraries in prisons. >> the judge might have been under no illusion that sending me to prison to help, but he did say i could get something out of it if i tried. and i think that this is a testament not just that i got something out of it, but that i came home to a world where it might feel overwhelming, it might feel like it is absolutely hard to make a way when you have hurt somebody in the past, but i also came to a world that has radically changed and shifted and create more and more opportunities for people to reflect on the ways in which they changed, and to be welcomed back in what i think of as the beloved community. >> sunday night at 8 p.m. eastern on c-span's "q&a." you can listen to "q&a" and all of our podcasts on our free c-span now app. >> house speaker mike johnson and israeli prime minister benja

she's now a professor at yale university's law school and school of management.cane topic. do you want to try and explain why people should care about this? yeah, totally. >> and thanks. >> for having me. you know, when i first heard this. >> story, this weekend. >> or last week. >> i was just. >> like, stunned about. >> the nature of the disclosure here. and maybe. >> just, like, give. >> your viewers. >> a sense. >> the bureau of fiscal. >> service is kind. >> of like. >> the accounts payables department. >> for the federal government. >> so money coming in, money going out, they're kind. >> of responsible. >> for the plumbing, the sense. >> of the. >> mechanics of how tax credits gets paid. or how. social security benefits. get paid. and as. >> such, this data. >> and. this infrastructure. >> is incredibly sensitive. >> it has the. >> social security. >> information and. >> the private information of. >> every single american in this country. and so i've. >> been wracking my brain for days. >> trying. >> to come up with. >> like a. reasonable reason. why unele

i think i saw something from yale that said gas prices would increase about 4%, but significantly more in the midwest and then we'd also see , higher prices from natural gas. i think in the pacific northwest, you import quite a bit of natural gas from canada, so those prices would go up. and of course new york imports hydro from hydro quebec, and frankly it's unclear to me how the tariffs would apply to electricity, but i think niso has expressed concern that we would raise prices in -- electricity prices in new york. these tariffs will increase prices in other commodities as well. >> so what i'm hearing is that despite all of this talk that donald trump and the republican party. we have about driving down energy costs. their first decisions are actually to drive up energy crop costs, including prices at the pump across the united states, and that has knock-on effects across the entire economy, right? these prices are not just contained. they're not just hiking prices on oil and gas. oil and gas prices will then hike up prices on groceries and pretty much any good that gets transported