much more pervasive and disturbing this spring yale university will welcome a brand new training center on its campus facility that according to the yale daily news will coach u.s. special forces on interrogation tactics you heard me right yeah i was going to host a campus center to teach military personnel how to detect lies and as disturbing as that is it gets worse because guess who the guinea pigs are in this experiment immigrants. and why the chiefs like high interest head in the project so that he hopes that by having soldiers practice this interrogation technique unquote someone they can't necessarily identify with but they'd be better prepared for the real thing so how does a partnership like this even form in the first place and what larger problems does that pose to talk about all that and more i'm joined by our t.v. producer rachel curtis thank you for coming on so rachel you were actually in correspondence with themselves so you've been kind of investigating talk about what exactly this project in the hills really briefly yes sure so dr charles morgan is a psychiatrist as well as a professor at yale and he essentially asked for a