host: and we have been talking to catholic university professor matthew green, published by yale university press. this is the cover. you're watching book tv. >> is there a nonfiction author you would like to see, tweet us on book tv or post a comment on our wall. facebook.com/booktv. next on book tv's afterwards programs, journalist describes her book "shaky ground", she's interviewed by reporter from the wall street journal. >> we are here with bethany. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> of course, this is something that i spend a lot of time spending on. why don't you start by telling us about why you wrote the book and why fannie and freddie are so important to the modern populist? >> guest: i started studying in the wake of this scandal. at the time i was shocked to find out that companies like this existed. what is a government sponsored enterprise. fannie was created back in the wake of the depression by roosevelt in order to help make home ownership widely available. if you have an institution that could buy loans that banks, lenders had made that would agree up the banks.