let's explore this further with the climate change lawyer farhana yamin, who is at the conference inrence in poland. how optimistic do you feel? what do you notice that is different? there is an airof you notice that is different? there is an air of resolve to fight, but many of the small island states that are going to be at risk with very huge consequences are stating that very clearly. today we had several declarations from the minister's of those country that they will not leave with no outcome. what is holding back for the progress? we received the proposals from the presidencies half ago and it has been quiet so far, but essentially there is a group of countries who are blocking progress here. for example, the united states, saudi arabia, kuwait and russia object to what would recognise the special report on one point fight that would say the consequences of not shifting to the temperature limit will be awful, so it is far more dangerous and the second half of the conclusions were that we could still stay on this thing if we wrapped up ambition early. this is a state of emergen