host: ok, yana rodgers. guest: you are right.here has been a discussion in support of universal basic income. it is more of a norm in other countries, especially in western europe. we have been hearing more about it, not only in conjunction with the pandemic but also the future in general as more jobs become automated and jobs occupied by people are now being performed by machines and artificial intelligence. i agree with you. there has been more discussion of universal basic income and more support. in terms of benefits just for families with children, i do think it is important to have support specifically helping families with children. but you are absolutely right. people who do not have children also need to have support, even policies provided by employers. why not call them work/life balance policies rather than family-friendly policies? at work, it should not just be employees with children who can take advantage of these kind of work/life balance policies. but i do believe when it comes to government policies that we sho

host: ok, yana rodgers. guest: you are right. has been a discussion in support of universal basic income. it is more of a norm in other countries, especially in western europe. we have been hearing more about it, not only in conjunction with the pandemic but also the future in general as more jobs become automated and jobs occupied by people are now being performed by machines and artificial intelligence. i agree with you. there has been more discussion of universal basic income and more support. in terms of benefits just for families with children, i do think it is important to have support specifically helping families with children. but you are absolutely right. people who do not have children also need to have support, even policies provided by employers. why not call them work/life balance policies rather than family-friendly policies? at work, it should not just be employees with children who can take advantage of these kind of work/life balance policies. but i do believe when it comes to government policies that we should

host: from rutgers university, we are joined by professor yana rodgers. we are going to talk about women in work and the effect of the pandemic. thanks for being here, professor p. guest: thank you. host: in terms of women in the workforce, what has been the effect of the past two years? guest: that is a great question. in a nutshell, we are hearing about the session with more women than men hitting hotter early on by work closures. they worked more in those sectors that had shutdowns and as this pandemic drags on, childcare centers closed, schools lowest. the bulk of this supervising kids at home fell on the shoulders of women. so we did see more women leaving the workfare -- the workforce than men are cutting back on their hours to take care of this additional responsibility of supervising kids and taking care of children. and as the recovery has progressed, we've seen women slower to go back to the workforce. especially women of color, we see higher unemployment rates for black and latino women. the disruptions to childcare have continued as well. we e