and nancy is your particular case where she is picking up on a debt that was owed yarrow, and this is much later. you might want to -- >> well, the niece was nancy hillman, and there's an interesting story about her because she was a free woman. i think he actually freed herself. >> this was all before the civil war, so we're clear of the time frame. >> so when yarrow died in 1823, he had a loan out to a man, and the man quit paying. and eventually, the property that -- property was secured, and eventually they foreclosed on the land that the loan was good on. and nancy went into court, and she said, wait a minute, i have first right toss that. well -- rights to that. well, there was a complication in d.c. law, and that is african-americans -- in fact, no black whether free or slave was allowed to testify. and so she somehow or other had to win a lawsuit without testifying. and she won. i -- had a good lawyer, and she won. but the claim was levied against her. it prohibited her -- [inaudible] and the federal judge said no. the law doesn't go that far. african-americans are entitled to