i'm yasmin vossoughian.e have a lot to cover this morning as the u.s. death toll surpassed 60,000 yesterday. the president seemed to revert to his old line of thinking that the virus will, in fact, disappeared. this claim has been refuted time and time again by the administration's top medical experts who say the virus will come back in the fall and will likely be worst if it coincides with flu season. here is dr. anthony fauci on tuesday. and then the president contradicting him yesterday. >> it's not going to disappear from the planet, which means as we get into next season, in my mind, it's inevitable that we will have a return of the virus or maybe it never even went away. when it does, how we handle it will determine how fate. if by that time we have put into place all of the countermeasures that you need to address this, we should do reasonably well. if we don't do that successfully, we could be in for a bad fall and a bad winter. >> without a vaccine, sir, why do you think the virus will just be gone?

i'm yasmin vossoughian.do have a lot to cover this morning. the u.s. crossing the 1 million mark, a grim milestone for confirmed cases of the coronavirus yesterday. while the death toll from the virus has now surpassed that of the vietnam war, 58,220 americans were killed during the roughly 20-year war. while nearly 59,000 americans died from covid-19 in less than two months. in terms of confirmed cases there are now 1.17 million across the country. that represents worldwide cases. the president was asked about it at an event yesterday. take a listen. >> back in late february, you predicted that the number of cases would go down to zero. how did we get from your prediction of zero from 1 million? >> well, we will go to zero. when it comes to testing, we're going to do much more testing than anybody else. if you add anybody else combined that will be a number, and it will be at the appropriate time. it will be down to zero, like we said. >> again, more testing than anybody else, yes, but not more testing per

i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot to get to this morning. i want to set the stage for where things stand right now. the united states surpassing italy, now leading the world in terms of the highest number of deaths from the coronavirus as you see on this chart here. the death toll here in the united states is now approaching 22,000 with more than half a million confirmed cases. this coincides with a deeply reported new expose from the "new york times" showing how key federal agencies, the state department, the national security council and the pentagon struggled to get the president to take timely action despite several early warnings. officials are now debating how to carry out the new goal of rolling back social sdandistanc guidelines. despite health concerns that such a move without widespread testing would step back any progress made from social distancing. the president was warned about the potential for a pandemic, but internal divisions, lack of planning and his faith in his own instincts led to a

i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're going to begin this half hour with another wave of states preparing to ease coronavirus restrictions despite warnings from health experts. across the country, the pandemic has killed more than 55,000 people as the total cases of infection nears a million. on friday, georgia began allowing nonessential businesses such as hair salons and gyms to open doors. today, limited in restaurant dining and movie theaters are allowed to reopen, as well. in montana, church goers returning to service after stay at home orders were lifted yesterday. today, businesses there are allowed to reopen at limited capacity. tennessee says it's going to allow only restaurants to reopen with reduced capacity. in mississippi, a lot of retail businesses will be back in business, but that does not include hair and nail salons, gyms and entertainment venues. in colorado, democrat governor jared pollis has given the green light for retail curbside pick up. barber shops, tattoo parlors are allowed to reopen wit

i'm yasmin vossoughian. we begin with president trump's eagerness to reopen the economy. he says plans are close to being finalized even as health zperl s experts warn he's likely moving too fast. the president appeared to back away over his claim of totally authority over the states now saying he will work with individual governors to implement appropriate openings and when and how they're appropriate for states. some states could open before his may 1st goal. watch some of this. >> the day will be very close because certain states as you know are in much different condition and a much different place than other states. it's going to be very, very close. maybe even before the date of may 1st. so, that will be for some states, actually, there are over 20 that are in extremely good stra shape. and we think we're going to be able to get them open fairly quickly. and then others will follow. but we're all set as i said, the governors are going to be opening up their states. they're going to declare when. they'r

i'm yasmin vossoughian. medical experts are pushing back hard against the president's latest suggestions for treating the coronavirus. one of which included injecting people with disinfectant. the president's suggestions, snubbed by the experts in the briefing room with him, came after a homeland security official presented research that found disinfectants, heat and humidity killed the virus on services and in the air. here is how it all played out. >> so supposing we hit the body with a tremendous -- whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light. and i think you said that hasn't been checked, but you're going to test it. and then i said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. and i think you said you're going to test that, too. sounds interesting. >> we'll get the right folks who could. >> and then i see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection

i'm yasmin vossoughian. we've got a lot to cover this morning. we're beginning with the stark new warning from the director of the cdc, as some states announce plans to reopen. robert redfield, telling "the washington post," a second wave of coronavirus could be worse because it could coincide with the start of the flu season next winter. he discussed the strain that two simultaneous respiratory outbreaks would put on the health care system. and urged state and federal officials to use the coming months to prepare for this possibility. the cdc director is stressing the importance of social distancing. and called protests to lift stay-at-home orders, quote, not helpful. yesterday, the president was asked what happens if the virus makes a comeback after social distancing guidelines are relaxed. >> i would say, you keep away until this thing is gone. it's going to be gone at some point. it's going to be gone, gone, i would say you keep away, and do the social distancing until such time you know when it's gone.

i'm yasmin vossoughian. want to get right to the many fast moving developments with the coronavirus. the u.s. recording the world's highest number of deaths for a single day yesterday. and the second highest number of newly confirmed cases. we're now closing in on 400,000 cases and 13,000 deaths, as you see here. new york city also suffering its deadliest day. the death toll there has now topped 4,000. more than were killed in the city back on 9/11. now, during the white house briefing yesterday, the president lashing out at the world health organization and threatening to withhold u.s. funding. he accused the organization of not being aggressive enough countering the global spread of the coronavirus. >> they called it wrong. they called it wrong. they really -- they missed the call. they could have called months earlier. they would have known. and they should have known. and they probably did know. so we'll be looking into that very carefully. and we're going to put a hold on money spent to the w.h.o. we're

i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot to cover this morning. amid the global pandemic and record unemployment, the president is now threatening to shut down congress. he wants to use recess appointments to get his stalled nominees into senior positions and on the federal bench without senate approval. the constitution allows a president to adjourn congress if house and senate leaders cannot agree on whether to adjourn. but that is not the case here. and no, the president has ever used this power. >> we have a tremendous number of people that have to come into government. and now more so than ever before because of the virus and the problem. we have to do it. and we have to do whatever we have to do. >> earlier last month, you were in the oval office talking about now is not the time for partisanship. how will that act lower the partisanship in this town and could it potentially hinder the ability to get something done on coronavirus? >> well, it is -- look, it's been a very partisan government for a long per

i'm yasmin vossoughian.normal means acting like there never was a coronavirus problem, i don't think that's going to happen until we do have a situation where you can completely protect the population. but when we say getting back to normal, we mean something very different from what we're going through right now. because right now, we are in a very intense mitigation. when we get back to normal, we will go back gradually to the point where we can function as a society. you're absolutely right. i mean, if you want to get to pre-coronavirus, you know, that might not ever happen in the sense of the fact that the threat is there. but i believe, with the therapies that will be coming online, and with the fact that i feel confident that over a period of time we'll get a good vaccine, we'll never have to get back to where we are right now. if that means getting back to normal, we'll get back to normal. >> dr. anthony fauci as the white house briefing yesterday, when asked when americans can expect things to get ba

i'm yasmin vossoughian.n a day where the u.s. once again recorded its highest number of confirms cases of deaths from coronavirus, the white house laid out in stark terms what lies ahead. the nation's top scientists predicting even with the current distancing guidelines in place, the united states could see up to 240,000 deaths. and if the measures don't stay in place the death toll could be higher. the next couple of weeks, we are today, are going to be the worst. >> i want every american to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead. we're going to go through a very tough two weeks. and then hopefully, as the experts are predicting as i think a lot of us are predicting, having studied it so hard, we're going to start seeing some real light at the end of the tunnel. but this is going to be a very painful -- very painful two weeks. >> in the next several days to a week or so, we're going to continue to see things go up. we cannot be discouraged by that because the mitigation is actually working and will wo

i'm yasmin vossoughian.ght now. >>> you said a handful of staffers tested positive. are they going to get the hydroxychloroquine treatment? is that going to be made available to personnel overseas? >> i don't know the answer to that. >> secretary mike pompeo on whether the state department will practice what the president preaches. >> yeah, no. >> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." it is thursday, april 9th. with joe, willie, and me, we have white house reporter for the "associated press," jonathan lemire. nbc news capitol hill correspondent and host of kaskasi kasie d.c. on msnbc sunday nights, kasie hunt. >>> the u.s. suffered another record day of deaths from coronavirus yesterday. more than 1,900 lives, as the total number of deaths now

i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot to cover this morning.id the global pandemic and record unemployment, the president is now threatening to shut down congress. he wants to use recess appointments to get his stalled nominees into senior positions and on the federal bench without senate approval. the constitution allows a president to adjourn congress if house and senate leaders cannot agree on whether to adjourn. but that is not the case here. and no, the president has ever used this

i'm yasmin vossoughian.s right now. >>> it's the individual acts of tens of millions of californians that allow me to say the following. the numbers in the state of california are growing. the number of positives, certainly, are growing and, tragically, yes, the number of deaths, 203, have grown. but the icu numbers and the hospitalization numbers, while they're growing, are not growing as significantly as you're seeing in other parts of the country. >> do you have a message for the other governors who have not taken these strong measures, these extreme measures? should everyone be issuing these stay at home orders? >> message is this, what are you waiting for? what more evidence do you need? if you think it is not going to happen to you, you'll never regret overcompensating at the moment so you're preparing people for meeting this moment in the responsible way. there's no better intervention. period, full stop, none, than physical distancing. we talk about social distancing, but it is physical distancing. s

i'm yasmin vossoughian. on a day where the u.s.nce again recorded its highest number of confirms cases of deaths from coronavirus, the white house laid out in stark terms what lies ahead. the nation's top scientists predicting even with the current distancing guidelines in place, the united states could see up to 240,000 deaths. and if the measures don't stay in place the death toll could be higher. the next couple of weeks, we are today, are going to be the worst. >> i want every american to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead. we're going to go through a very tough two

i am yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts

i'm yasmin vossoughian.e" starts now. >>> on the question of a vaccine, we don't have a vaccine for sars. they got close in mice. we don't have a vaccine for hiv. life did go on, right? so the idea that we're definitely going to have a vaccine, we didn't really approach much else in the same way we're pegging going back to normal with a vaccine. did we? >> well, no. but, laura, this is different. hiv aids is entirely different. we don't have a vaccine for hiv aids, but we have spectacularly effective treatment. people who invariably would have died years ago, right now, are leading essentially normal lives. sars is a different story. sars disappeared. we developed a vaccine. we were in the process of going through the various phases. we showed it was safe. we showed it induced a good response. then sars disappeared. we didn't need to develop a vaccine for sars. so i think it's a little bit misleading maybe to compare what we're going through now with hiv or sars. they're really different. >> but we don't kno

i'm yasmin vossoughian.now. >>> we've been working very closely with dr. deborah birx and all our health care experts on the white house coronavirus task force, to give the

i'm yasmin vossoughian.'ve got a lot to talk about this half hour with the president saying there would be an increase in the production of test swabs amid criticism over their lack of availability. during last night's white house briefing, trump said he would invoke the defense production act, but did not exactly say when, as he has done before or provide any details about what company would be producing these swabs. >> it's a swab. it looks innocent, not very complicated. anybody like to see what it looks like? should i open it? does it remind you of something? reminds you of this, right? one is a swab, one is a qtip. we're preparing to increase swab production by over 1 million swabs per month. we will be getting swaps very easily. swabs are easy. ventilators are hard. >> so governors from some of the hardest hit areas in the country yesterday pushed back against the claims that states have the testing supplies and testing capacity to reopen. >> the president and vice president have been saying over the p

i'm yasmin vossoughian.ow. >>> we're taking very special care of our nursing homes and our seniors, other than me. other than me. nobody wants to take care of me. other than me, we're taking care of our seniors. >> president trump complaining twice yesterday he is not receiving enough special care. >> nobody is taking care of him. >> yesterday was a doozy. good morning and welcome to "morning joe." >> it was a doozy. >> crazy. >> what does he mean? he has thousands of people, his entire life. >> he's talking about the media, who he hates but can't stay away from, can't quit. it's thursday -- >> by the way, willie, we're going to slow down a tad. >> yeah, okay. we have a lot to get to. good thing we have three hours. >> it is. >> so much happened. sometimes, you know, that cat light, he wants you to focus on one thing. >> yeah. >> there was so much to focus on yesterday. >> lot of cat lasers going on the walls for the media. >> incredible statements by dr. bright about why he was fired. >> i would have,

i'm yasmin vossoughian.g joe" starts right now. >>> this president's pattern of taking this information is different than president obama. i've done a little historical reading. it is different than president clint clinton's, as well. i think the reason is he finds value. we're able to convince him the facts we're delivering impact his capacity to perform his mission. i think the day that we can't, i think the day we can't deliver that will be the day that it starts getting pushed off, and other things begin to occupy that time and space. >> that was then cia director mike

i'm yasmin vossoughian.ng joe" starts now. >> together, we are tackling this disease, and i want to reassure you, if we remind united and resolute. >> there is a governor i hear complaining all the time, pritzker. i hear him, he is always complaining. >> the attributes of self-discipline. >> only cnn would ask that question. fake news. go ahead. >> of good-humored resolve. >> what do you have to lose? >> we join with all nations across the globe in a common endeavor. >> i have a friend of mine, said he didn't know we had so many countries in the world. 182 countries. >> we may have more still

i'm yasmin vossoughian.to get right to the many fast moving developments with the coronavirus. the u.s. recording the world's highest number of deaths for a single day yesterday. and the second highest number of newly confirmed cases. we're now closing in on 400,000 cases and 13,000 deaths, as you see here. new york city also suffering its deadliest day. the death toll there has now topped 4,000. more than were killed in the city back on 9/11. now, during the white house briefing yesterday, the president lashing

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i've been working under dr.admiral girard's leadership to increase the supply of testing across the united states. >> we have focused on every piece of

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> what we were predicting with

i'm yasmin vossoughian. we've got a lot to cover this morning. beginning with the stark new warning from the director of the cdc, as some states announce plans to reopen. robert redfield, telling "the washington post," a second wave of coronavirus could be worse because it could coincide with the start of the flu season next winter. he discussed the strain that two simultaneous respiratory outbreaks would put on the health care system. and urged state and federal officials to use the coming months to prepare for this possibility. the cdc director is stressing

i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot to get to this morning.age for where things stand right now. the united states surpassing italy, now leading the world in terms of the highest number of deaths from the coronavirus as you see on this chart here. the death toll here in the united states is now approaching 22,000 with more than half a million confirmed cases. this coincides with a deeply reported new expose from the "new york times" showing how key federal agencies, the state department, the national security council and the

i'm yasmin vossoughian. we begin with president trump's eagerness to reopen the economy.says plans are close to being finalized even as health zperl s experts warn he's likely moving too fast. the president appeared to back away over his claim of totally authority over the states now saying he will work with individual governors to implement appropriate openings and when and how they're appropriate for states. some states could open before his may 1st

i'm yasmin vossoughian.edical experts are pushing back hard against the president's latest suggestions for treating the coronavirus. one of which included injecting people with disinfectant. the president's suggestions, snubbed by the experts in the briefing room with him, came after a homeland security official presented research that found disinfectants, heat and humidity killed the virus on services and in the air. here is how it all played out. >> so supposing we hit the bod

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> this president's pattern of taking this information is different than president obama. i've done a little historical reading. it is different than president clint clinton's, as well. i think the reason is he finds value. we're able to convince him the facts we're delivering impact his capacity to perform his mission. i think the day that we can't, i think the day we can't deliver that will be the day that it starts getting pushed off, and other things begin to occupy that time and space. >> that was then cia director mike pompeo back in 2018, talking about president trump's consumption of classified briefings. this morning, there is new reporting that says president trump was warned repeatedly about the threat of coronavirus in classified briefings back in january and february of this year. clearly, other things began to occupy that time and space. >> willie, good morning. good to see you. >> morning. >> donald trump started getting warned, accordin

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts now. >> together, we are tackling this disease, and i want to reassure you, if we remind united and resolute. >> there is a governor i hear complaining all the time, pritzker. i hear him, he is always complaining. >> the attributes of self-discipline. >> only cnn would ask that question. fake news. go ahead. >> of good-humored resolve. >> what do you have to lose? >> we join with all nations across the globe in a common endeavor. >> i have a friend of mine, said he didn't know we had so many countries in the world. 182 countries. >> we may have more still to endure. >> we have to open our country up. we have to get going. we have to open our country up. >> using the great advances of science. >> what do i know? i'm not a doctor. i'm not a doctor, but i have common sense. >> and our instinctive compassion to heal. >> if it does help, great. if it doesn't help, we gave it a shot. >> what a contrast from leadership. there you have queen elizabeth talking about a comm

i am yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> nobody knows the system better than me. which is why i alone can fix it. >> the powers of the president are very substantial and will not be questioned. >> iran is a different place than when i took over. when i took over the united states -- when i took over the military, we didn't have ammunition. when somebody is the president of the united states, the authority is total. that's the way it's got to be. >> president trump added another step yesterday -- >> well, no. >> -- in his march toward authoritarianism. he tried. >> he tried. >> good morning and welcome to "morning joe." it's tuesday. >> that's the thing, he tried. he's done this before. i know we really differ here. you're very, very concerned when he talks like that, about the constitution and the country. i'm actually mainly concerned for his mental health. also, the extraordinary -- i feel very, very badly whenever he speaks that way, willie, for people who have to walk around in shame e

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "mo "morning joe" starts right now. >>> many governors are doing this incredible work, and they're working with us very closely on testing. some governors have gone too far. some of the things that happened are maybe not so appropriate. i want to thank governor cuomo. relationship there, for this whole thing, we're building hospitals. we're working well with the governors. i would say pretty much all of them. a couple of them, no matter what you do, you can't satisfy them. you could find a cure tomorrow, and they'd find a reason to complain. wise guys. >> so he likes the governors when they flatten the curve, but not when they push back on lifting the lockdowns. he likes them when the hospitals stabilize, but not when they ask about long-term planning. as conservative writer windsormawindsor windsor mann describes it, trump takes credit for everything the governors do well, and blames them for everything he does poorly. >> you've seen it the past several days. first, the president als

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> what we were predicting with the increase and the real adherence to the physical separation, the guidelines that the vice president talks about, the physical separation, at the same time we're seeing the increase in deaths. we're seeing rather dramatic decrease in the need for hospitalizations. yesterday was something like 200 new hospitalizations. it's been as high as 1,400 at any given time. so that is going in the right direction. i say that, and i always remind myself when i say that, that means that what we are doing is working. therefore, we need to continue to do it. i get questions a lot, dr. birx and i, about these numbers, the projections. they went from 100,000, 200,000, now down to 60,000. that's a sign that when, as i keep saying, when you take the data you have, and you reinsert it into the model, the model modifies. data is real. model is hypothesis. okay? that's what you have to do. that's what i think we're seeing. >> dr. anthony fa

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts lives coul have been saved if social distancing, physical distancing, stay at home measures, had started third week of february instead of mid-march? >> you know, jake, again, it's the what would have, what could have. it's very difficult to go back and say that. i mean, obviously, you could logically say that if you had a process that was ongoing, and you started mitigation earlier, you could have saved lives. obviously, no one is going to deny that. but what goes into those kinds of decisions is complicated. but, you're right. i mean, obviously, if we had, right from the beginning, shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. but there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then. >> dr. anthony fauci essentially confirming a key part of a deeply reported, new expose from the "new york times," which shows how key federal agencies, the state department, the national security council, and the pentagon struggled to get the president

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i've been working under dr. birx and admiral girard's leadership to increase the supply of testing across the united states. >> we have focused on every piece of the supply chain that relates to testing. >> we're testing, not necessarily with the more stringent tests, but temperatures, to make sure everybody is safe. >> governors are expanding testing, and we ensure them we are going to continue to work in every way to support their efforts to do just that. >> the military and va have stepped up every step of the way to prosivide support in testing and care. >> not everybody believes we have to do that much testing. we're going maximum, you understand. some people don't want to do that much testing. >> wait. >> there are some people who don't want to do that much testing. >> wait, that's all -- >> who are those people? >> everybody has been talking about testing. the governors have talked about testing. ceos have been talking about testing. >> who doesn't want testing? >> small business restaurant owners have be

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> you said a handful of staffers tested positive. are they going to get the hydroxychloroquine treatment? is that going to be made available to personnel overseas? >> i don't know the answer to that. >> secretary mike pompeo on whether the state department will practice what the president preaches. >> yeah, no. >> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." it is thursday, april 9th. with joe, willie, and me, we have white house reporter for the "associated press," jonathan lemire. nbc news capitol hill correspondent and host of kaskasi kasie d.c. on msnbc sunday nights, kasie hunt. >>> the u.s. suffered another record day of deaths from coronavirus yesterday. more than 1,900 lives, as the total number of deaths now closes in on 15,000. the nation's epicenter, new york state, also recorded its highest number of deaths in a single day, 779. at 151,000 confirmed cases, new york state alone now has more cases than any other country, except, of course, the un

i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> we've been working very closely with dr. deborah birx and all our health care experts on the white house coronavirus task force, to give the president the very best projections. they call it modeling, wolf. they look at what's happened around the world. we think italy may be the most comparable area to the united states at this point for a variety of reasons. so we've built thatted m emodel >> vice president mike pence yesterday saying that the white house modeling suggests the impact of the coronavirus in the united states may be most similar to italy. for reference, italy accounts for more than a quarter of all deaths worldwide from the virus, cordi i recording over 12,000 deaths. the death toll could be higher, as one study suggested some elderly victims died alone in their homes because they never made it to the hospital and were never tested for the coronavirus. >> willie, that certainly is sobering news from the vice president of the united st