bush and yasser arafat. we thought we had a way forward. marginalize yasser arafat. create a decent palestinian government with which the israelis can negotiate. we had a road map to implement this policy. we forced arafat to create the post of prime minister and we fought we had something going ending june of 2003, we have hosni mubarak, saudi arabia, king of the ukraine, jordan, president bush, good a story not to tell. if you google you will find a photo of those men overlooking the strait of tehran, hosni mubarak meeting their final statement. it is 120 degrees and none of them were sweating and the reason they are not sweating is we build a platform with this magnificent thing behind it and from down the edge of the cliff, down at the shore, air-conditioning condensers and piped cold air under the stage. on the stage is 68 degrees and underneath, 120 degrees. you will see these guys are sweating. that picture is from the following day, the king of jordan's palace, this is where a boss --abbas says we want to end to violence. we thought we were off to the races. t

yasser arafat. people understood arafat was a huge piece so in his june 2002 speech that is not the path to peace comes we can go down and when he is gone but it is the of courageous statement after making that speech he went off to the g8 meeting knowing he would be the skunk at the garden paul -- party. that speech some involving the president himself which doesn't happen very often people don't go line by line number speeches but he did for that speech and ironically it was secretary powell said you have to set your policy then he saw the final draft in this state department obsoleted not want the speech given. and interest of time i want to jump forward. that was june 2002 by the way he goes back to the general assembly every year with a visit to new york you could not get around manhattan at all for a couple of days. yasser arafat was still the head of the plo. he was smart enough to realize although we said he had to go he was likely to get a bear hug released a handshake with george bush. coli

clearly anybody who knows what you have written you are not a huge admirer of yasser arafat. >> especially in the last years the last decade i don't think he served the palestinian cause at all. >> rose: because? >> many reasons. the main reason is he didn't fully understand h to al with the united states. and israel. he didn't understand that the kind of playing that he did the arab countries simply wouldn't work with the americans and israelis. he didn't understand the deal that he signed. he allowed the palestinians to in effect disarm and accept a deal which in my view provided the ceiling that prevented -- i mean he made a number of really great mistakes in his last decade. i think the plane crash in libya diminished his capabilities significantly. >> rose: do you believe he was corrupt? >> he fostered corruption. i mean -- i don't think he was personally corrupt but all around him were people whom he actively encouraged to be corrupt as a means of controlling them. >> rose: in the identify the argument about yasser arafat was that he didn't really want peace, he was more@oxf/g comfo

we're in the 27th year since it began, the moment at the white house with yasser arafat.one of the reasons that talks talks by themselves, as important as they are, they are not the key thing. what can secretary kerry do to prepare the former basis on which to proceed. what can he be doing if you begin these talks you see material changes as a result of these talks. that's the real challenge right now. >> sir, as you know, these will spill over to the larger group talks that will include iran and as you were working with former secretary of state hillary clinton, your focus was on iran. your take on these nuclear talks that kerry will join tomorrow. is the u.s. in a position to sway iran to curb the uranium enrichment program? >> the last meeting that was held, the permanent five members the security council, plus germany, put some new -- really put a new position on the table insofar as we communicated -- the group communicated to the iranians that in a number of areas that sanctions could be eased in the trade of precious metals, that when it comes to one of the facilit

until 1962, yasser arafat coopted the term forked a call islamic arabs that term would have meant jewsthing to do with a government or state. but more importantly to stay there are occasions -- what they are asking, are there occasions when it's okay to murder people? that is a horrible question to ask not just kids, horrible question for adults. >> mike: they bring up the crusades, too. >> clayton: downplaying the role of catholicism, and christianity and judaism. but also then, promoting the idea of marxist socialism. this mom whom we had on the show early this morning, julie west, painted as a bigot and right wing extremist. let's listen to her. >> it's asking hey, why might it be okay to kill israeli students? this group says it's okay, if it's wrong to blow up people on the streets of boston, it's wrong to blow them up in restaurants in jerusalem. it's not about banning a book. this is about citizenning having the right to question our government and say why do you continue to spend my tax dollars on curriculum that is so obviously biased and filled with errors? >> that mother sho