>> yassin bay. >> stephen: why would you not be mos def anymore? he's a famous guy who sells records. why not do that? >> well, i... it's a non de plume similar to what mark twain was. >> stephen: one of america's great et cetera hip-hop artists. >> yes. >> stephen: in his day. >> a great inspiration. >> stephen: though i was offended by the way he dropped the "n" word in "huckleberry finn." that is not right. okay. so you're not... you guys, you're considered like underground rap, like pioneers of underground rap. what does that mean? is there a difference between that and corporate rap because i love corporate things. >> well, underground rap, it's a ladies and gentlemen -- label that we never really understood. what does it mean, that we don't rhyme above sea level? i don't know. but, you know, there's a lot of diversity in hip-hop. there's a lot of different styles and, you know, across all different genres of art. so, you know, people who like the label things i guess because it's... stephen, it allows me to pigeonhole you. >> exactly, which i

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